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anEngineer wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:32 am Today, they announced a bizarre change to kickoffs that have both sides within 5 yards of each other. It presumably keeps players from hitting at full speed. There is no explanation of how onside kicks would work. Maybe they are making that illegal too.

Bizarre for sure. Let’s just have NFL flag football


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anEngineer wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:32 am Today, they announced a bizarre change to kickoffs that have both sides within 5 yards of each other. It presumably keeps players from hitting at full speed. There is no explanation of how onside kicks would work. Maybe they are making that illegal too.

As I posted above the on-sides kick will be the same as it has been but you have to tell that you are doing it.
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Update Hip-drop penalty from the Athletic
When deployed officials will penalize the offender’s team 15 yards and award an automatic first down. The penalty will not be reviewable or able to be challenged, with the official deciding in real time if a tackle is legal or illegal.

“The hip-swivel (ban) is a stupid rule,” Indianapolis Colts linebacker Zaire Franklin said on his podcast, “The Trenches Show.” “The explanation is dumb. My bigger issue is: Why does every year the NFL feel like they gotta change the rules? You keep tweaking and maneuvering and shifting the game, you’re gonna eventually come out with something that’s unrecognizable.”

NFL executive Jeff Miller noted that the swivel hip-drop tackle was used 230 times last year.
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winwave wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 am
anEngineer wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:32 am Today, they announced a bizarre change to kickoffs that have both sides within 5 yards of each other. It presumably keeps players from hitting at full speed. There is no explanation of how onside kicks would work. Maybe they are making that illegal too.

As I posted above the on-sides kick will be the same as it has been but you have to tell that you are doing it.
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Longtime football fans don't usually like changes to the game (or anything else for that matter...GET OFF MY LAWN!). After reading more about the kickoff rule change, I think it may very well add excitement to the game while reducing injury risk. The biggest negative seems to be losing the surprise element for onside kicks. I have no stats to back this up, but I would guess that the vast majority of onside kicks were in situations where it was the only remaining winning option for the kicking team. Also, last season over 50% of kickoffs resulted in touchbacks. Boring ball.

Kirby Smart, not a name I usually think of in association with 'pussifying' the game, has shown interest in the rule change. College football will be monitoring the change this year. Don't be surprised in 2025 if we don't see 10 players from the kickoff team lining up on the opposing team's 40. More kickoff returns. Less injuries. What's not to like?
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GreenLantern wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:39 am Longtime football fans don't usually like changes to the game (or anything else for that matter...GET OFF MY LAWN!). After reading more about the kickoff rule change, I think it may very well add excitement to the game while reducing injury risk. The biggest negative seems to be losing the surprise element for onside kicks. I have no stats to back this up, but I would guess that the vast majority of onside kicks were in situations where it was the only remaining winning option for the kicking team. Also, last season over 50% of kickoffs resulted in touchbacks. Boring ball.

Kirby Smart, not a name I usually think of in association with 'pussifying' the game, has shown interest in the rule change. College football will be monitoring the change this year. Don't be surprised in 2025 if we don't see 10 players from the kickoff team lining up on the opposing team's 40. More kickoff returns. Less injuries. What's not to like?
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Reaction on the surprise onside kick going away

Thomas Morstead reacts to NFL eliminating surprise onside kicks. Saints now will go down in history as to the perhaps the greatest surprise successful onside kick in NFL SuperBowl history.
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The article makes it clear it is optional for games while being required for practices:

The NFL will allow players to wear Guardian Caps — soft-shell covers used on helmets — in games this upcoming season, the league announced.

“There is the option for a player to wear it in a game if he so chooses,” Dawn Aponte, the NFL’s chief football administration officer, said in a health and safety webinar Tuesday.
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At which point, if a DB wearing a guardian cap hits a receiver with the crown of his helmet, it shouldn't be a penalty because its soft.

They could solve all of this by going to leather helmets, and more importantly, no face masks. The dangerous hits will disappear from the game on their own.
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RobertM320 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:25 am At which point, if a DB wearing a guardian cap hits a receiver with the crown of his helmet, it shouldn't be a penalty because its soft.

They could solve all of this by going to leather helmets, and more importantly, no face masks. The dangerous hits will disappear from the game on their own.
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RobertM320 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:25 am At which point, if a DB wearing a guardian cap hits a receiver with the crown of his helmet, it shouldn't be a penalty because its soft.

They could solve all of this by going to leather helmets, and more importantly, no face masks. The dangerous hits will disappear from the game on their own.
Brilliant suggestion. I am sure the leather helmet topic is on the agenda during each years owners meetings.
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mbawavefan12 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:58 am
RobertM320 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:25 am At which point, if a DB wearing a guardian cap hits a receiver with the crown of his helmet, it shouldn't be a penalty because its soft.

They could solve all of this by going to leather helmets, and more importantly, no face masks. The dangerous hits will disappear from the game on their own.
Brilliant suggestion. I am sure the leather helmet topic is on the agenda during each years owners meetings.
Just because its not doesn't mean it wouldn't achieve the safety aspect they're looking for.
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Finally something good to report.
Roger Goodell is proposing to extend the NFL season to 20 weeks with two bye weeks and only two preseason games with 18 regular season games and the good news is this will push the Super Bowl back to the weekend of Presidents Day which is a Federal holiday on Monday, so Super Bowl Sunday and then the next day many people will have off of work.
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tpstulane wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm Finally something good to report.
Roger Goodell is proposing to extend the NFL season to 20 weeks with two bye weeks and only two preseason games with 18 regular season games and the good news is this will push the Super Bowl back to the weekend of Presidents Day which is a Federal holiday on Monday, so Super Bowl Sunday and then the next day many people will have off of work.
This would be almost as good as if they did the most logical thing: Play the game on Saturday night. There's an off week between the CCG and Super Bowl, the NFL has hung it's hat for years on playing their championship game on Sunday. Time to change that.
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DfromCT wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:26 pm
tpstulane wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm Finally something good to report.
Roger Goodell is proposing to extend the NFL season to 20 weeks with two bye weeks and only two preseason games with 18 regular season games and the good news is this will push the Super Bowl back to the weekend of Presidents Day which is a Federal holiday on Monday, so Super Bowl Sunday and then the next day many people will have off of work.
This would be almost as good as if they did the most logical thing: Play the game on Saturday night. There's an off week between the CCG and Super Bowl, the NFL has hung it's hat for years on playing their championship game on Sunday. Time to change that.
Might be they can charge advertisers more for Sunday night prime time.
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DfromCT wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:26 pm
tpstulane wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm Finally something good to report.
Roger Goodell is proposing to extend the NFL season to 20 weeks with two bye weeks and only two preseason games with 18 regular season games and the good news is this will push the Super Bowl back to the weekend of Presidents Day which is a Federal holiday on Monday, so Super Bowl Sunday and then the next day many people will have off of work.
This would be almost as good as if they did the most logical thing: Play the game on Saturday night. There's an off week between the CCG and Super Bowl, the NFL has hung it's hat for years on playing their championship game on Sunday. Time to change that.
That would be nice if they put it on Saturday. Good idea.
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winwave wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:33 pm
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tpstulane wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm Finally something good to report.
Roger Goodell is proposing to extend the NFL season to 20 weeks with two bye weeks and only two preseason games with 18 regular season games and the good news is this will push the Super Bowl back to the weekend of Presidents Day which is a Federal holiday on Monday, so Super Bowl Sunday and then the next day many people will have off of work.
This would be almost as good as if they did the most logical thing: Play the game on Saturday night. There's an off week between the CCG and Super Bowl, the NFL has hung it's hat for years on playing their championship game on Sunday. Time to change that.
That would be nice if they put it on Saturday. Good idea.
This has been discussed and brought up within the NFL hierarchy for years, and the old school stubborn owners have come back to "Sunday is the NFL's day." Hell, then why do we have games on Thursdays, and late in the season Saturdays?

There would be an increase in viewers, not a decrease if it were moved to Saturdays. And that would mean more, not less advertising dollars. It's just the stubborn old guard of the NFL that is slowly eroding. Making it a traditional day before Presidents Day would be great, but playing on Saturday when more people have Sunday off than President's Day off, would be even better.
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DfromCT wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:00 am
winwave wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:33 pm
DfromCT wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:26 pm

This would be almost as good as if they did the most logical thing: Play the game on Saturday night. There's an off week between the CCG and Super Bowl, the NFL has hung it's hat for years on playing their championship game on Sunday. Time to change that.
That would be nice if they put it on Saturday. Good idea.
This has been discussed and brought up within the NFL hierarchy for years, and the old school stubborn owners have come back to "Sunday is the NFL's day." Hell, then why do we have games on Thursdays, and late in the season Saturdays?

There would be an increase in viewers, not a decrease if it were moved to Saturdays. And that would mean more, not less advertising dollars. It's just the stubborn old guard of the NFL that is slowly eroding. Making it a traditional day before Presidents Day would be great, but playing on Saturday when more people have Sunday off than President's Day off, would be even better.
Agreed.
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The more NFL Sundays they have, the more Sundays the golf course is wide open.
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anEngineer wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:36 am The more NFL Sundays they have, the more Sundays the golf course is wide open.
The Super Bowl starts after 6 PM EST, not many golf courses in the country have tee times that late in the day in February.
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DfromCT wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:39 am
anEngineer wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:36 am The more NFL Sundays they have, the more Sundays the golf course is wide open.
The Super Bowl starts after 6 PM EST, not many golf courses in the country have tee times that late in the day in February.
They want to extend the season to 20 weeks. Those aren't at 6PM EST. Also, Super Bowl Sunday is 5PM CST here. Viewers have been at their parties since 2PM so they can watch talking heads endlessly spout their meaningless opinions about who's going to win.
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anEngineer wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:56 am
DfromCT wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:39 am
anEngineer wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:36 am The more NFL Sundays they have, the more Sundays the golf course is wide open.
The Super Bowl starts after 6 PM EST, not many golf courses in the country have tee times that late in the day in February.
They want to extend the season to 20 weeks. Those aren't at 6PM EST. Also, Super Bowl Sunday is 5PM CST here. Viewers have been at their parties since 2PM so they can watch talking heads endlessly spout their meaningless opinions about who's going to win.
If you say so. I've never gone to a Super Bowl party nor tuned in more than a half hour before hand. All the other coverage is telling me things I already know, or don't give a damn about. Even at 3 PM Pacific time, (and the game typically kicks off 20 minutes or so past the hour) that's a late tee time at that time of year.

Around here the golf courses sell out Saturdays and Sundays sun up to sun down until the temps are 50 degree highs. So the NFL has minimal impact on how busy or open our golf courses are. I've played locally each month of the year, but am more likely to be skiing than golfing on Super Bowl Sunday. That day is one of my favorites to ski as everyone heads home for their parties Sunday morning and the ski slopes are empty. If they played on Saturdays, that will probably go away and more people will party at their ski houses.
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