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anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:34 am Let me reiterate, I don't think any P5s are in a hurry to scoop up Memphis. Academically and socially, it does not improve any conference. They are a step above Marshall, but not by much. At least the altercation with the men's team was internal to their bench.

anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:50 am Let's not forget that Memphis St and Dana Kirk were at the heart of the point shaving scandal that led to the Hot Rod Williams revelations and the suspension of our program. The are little more than the Memphis Municipal Athletic Club disguised as a school so they can compete in the NCAA.

winwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 pm Memphis wasn't a fault for our point shaving. They were though subject to accusations of fixing games themselves that season. In their game against us here they kept leaving Clyde Eads wide open from the spot where everyone knew he liked to shoot from on the left wing. Eads would either pass it which drew groans from the crowd or put up a poor attempt.

golfnut69 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:56 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 pm Memphis wasn't a fault for our point shaving. They were though subject to accusations of fixing games themselves that season. In their game against us here they kept leaving Clyde Eads wide open from the spot where everyone knew he liked to shoot from on the left wing. Eads would either pass it which drew groans from the crowd or put up a poor attempt.

wasn't Keith Lee, the Memphis State's big name for those games

golfnut69 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:56 pm wasn't Keith Lee, the Memphis State's big name for those games

anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:09 pm

golfnut69 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:56 pm wasn't Keith Lee, the Memphis State's big name for those games

During his senior season, there was a post game interview with Lee where the announcer asked him about graduating with his degree in Physical Education, to which Lee replied, "No, man, it's in PE."

winwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 pm Memphis wasn't a fault for our point shaving. They were though subject to accusations of fixing games themselves that season. In their game against us here they kept leaving Clyde Eads wide open from the spot where everyone knew he liked to shoot from on the left wing. Eads would either pass it which drew groans from the crowd or put up a poor attempt.

HoustonWave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:36 pm Both videos are prime examples of what Memphis is. I'd be shocked if any P5 takes them in our lifetimes. Calling them out as the Memphis Municipal Athletic Club is spot on.

anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:03 pm Memphis was being investigated because of suspicions in a couple of games. One against Detroit was one that I remember. I seem to recall that there were allegations about connections Dana Kirk had with some Las Vegas bookies. Regardless, the point is that because Memphis was being investigated for point shaving, lots of questions were being asked about all of their opponents. As a result, it was discovered that Williams was given money by a donor. It was totally unrelated, but discovered because of association with Memphis.

anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:31 pm Getting back to the incident that initiated this thread, the fact that the incident happened after the game was over apparently made it a clear assault and it's being treated as such by authorities.

DfromCT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:47 pm

anEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:03 pm Memphis was being investigated because of suspicions in a couple of games. One against Detroit was one that I remember. I seem to recall that there were allegations about connections Dana Kirk had with some Las Vegas bookies. Regardless, the point is that because Memphis was being investigated for point shaving, lots of questions were being asked about all of their opponents. As a result, it was discovered that Williams was given money by a donor. It was totally unrelated, but discovered because of association with Memphis.

It was during the internal Tulane investigation after Hot Rod appeared on TV wearing handcuffs saying "I have to much at stock" that it was discovered Tom Green gave Hot Rod shoeboxes full of cash. It wasn't related to the Memphis investigation at all. It was unrelated to the cocaine purchase that Eads made that started the whole scheme.

Funny nobody caught on to the fact that Hot Rod was getting paid sooner. I remember my first day of classes reading a Hullabaloo article about this great recruit we had from Sorrento La. It talked about his mom working 3 jobs to make ends meet and keep replacing the growing Hot Rod's sneakers. Then I got Monroe and Hot Rod was washing a nice new-looking Olds Cutlass with a front license plate custom made "Hot Rod" in sparkling script.

As far as the investigation goes, there was a game that the three stooges (Krantz, Rosenthal and Olensky if memory serves) bet too much money on, and Olensky was betting with a bookie that was a convicted fellon and under investigation. There was a game I was at on a Saturday afternoon when we played (I think) VaTech and had a big lead. Fowler put in the scrubs and Tech cut the lead to about 10. With less than 5 seconds left we were covering the spread and I believe it was Augburns that threw the inbounds pass to nobody that a Tech player grabbed between the top of the key and half court and went uncontested for a slam to beat the spread as the buzzer expired. Students next to me were yelling "fix". I laughed it off but thought about it a lot later that day when I learned about that basket beating the spread.

Although I admit I'd forgotten about Memphis being investigated that year, I still say that investigation had nothing to do with the Tulane one, and Hot Rod's payments came to light after he'd been arrested.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:36 pm Hot Rod’s family's trailer burned down and they were homeless. Then a shoebox suddenly appeared only because the NCAA refused to let Tulane assist in this matter. A big donor dropped a dime on the family to keep them from living on the streets. The money happened after he was at Tulane. Had nothing to do with his recruitment.
The point shaving is another matter.

HoustonWave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:34 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 pm Memphis wasn't a fault for our point shaving. They were though subject to accusations of fixing games themselves that season. In their game against us here they kept leaving Clyde Eads wide open from the spot where everyone knew he liked to shoot from on the left wing. Eads would either pass it which drew groans from the crowd or put up a poor attempt.

Was that the home game that we won with Moreau's (sp) last second jumper? Even though we won the game, I remember telling my brother that it looked like we were shaving points late in the game, as we didn't cover the point spread.