https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... t-least-7bThe conference announced Thursday it has agreed to distribution agreements with CBS, Fox, NBC and NBCUniversal's Peacock, as well as returning partners Big Ten Network and FS1, that will begin July 1, 2023, and run through the 2029-30 season.
Per Brett McMurphy of The Action Network, the deals will earn the Big Ten between $7 billion and $8 billion with escalators that could bring the total value up to $10 billion.
Big Ten Agrees to Historic Media Rights Contract Reportedly Worth at Least $7B
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No wonder they passed on a ESPN deal. Wow. The gap between the haves and have nots is astronomical now. Waiting to see the SEC on their next deal. Tulane and the rest of the G5’s scrapping for pennies.NOLABigSteve wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:41 amhttps://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... t-least-7bThe conference announced Thursday it has agreed to distribution agreements with CBS, Fox, NBC and NBCUniversal's Peacock, as well as returning partners Big Ten Network and FS1, that will begin July 1, 2023, and run through the 2029-30 season.
Per Brett McMurphy of The Action Network, the deals will earn the Big Ten between $7 billion and $8 billion with escalators that could bring the total value up to $10 billion.
Leaving the SEC probably the worst financial decision in sports history.
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And here's something to consider: They stink! No, they really do. I guess every Road Runner needs a Wile E. Coyote just for laughs.
Rutgers, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland, Nebraska, Iowa, MSU, U of M, U of Illinois, Penn State, Minnesota, Wisconsin. Not exactly Murderers Row?
UCLA & USC have been granted the rights to scour all of California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Utah and the Pacific Islands for sufficient talent to be brought to the table for our entertainment purposes. Whooo Hooo! UCLA & USC made the cut, good for you boys!
The manipulation of broadcast rights based on a TV network's assessment of hollowed-out "tradition" is proof that all is not well in football land.
Rutgers, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland, Nebraska, Iowa, MSU, U of M, U of Illinois, Penn State, Minnesota, Wisconsin. Not exactly Murderers Row?
UCLA & USC have been granted the rights to scour all of California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Utah and the Pacific Islands for sufficient talent to be brought to the table for our entertainment purposes. Whooo Hooo! UCLA & USC made the cut, good for you boys!
The manipulation of broadcast rights based on a TV network's assessment of hollowed-out "tradition" is proof that all is not well in football land.
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Just saw this from another story on www.theAthletic.com
On the subject of CBS’ future interest in the Big 12 or Pac-12: “We’re always willing to talk to people,” McManus said. “Right now, we’re totally focused just on the Big Ten in the 3:30 p.m. ET window. We would certainly have conversations if quality games became available in other windows, but we are not actively looking to add any more college football to our schedule. We have the Army-Navy game, which is a huge showcase for us, and we’ve got a lot of college football on CBS Sports Network with the Mountain West and Conference USA.”
The Big Ten did not offer ESPN streaming rights to its football inventory, and without a direct-to-consumer component given the importance of ESPN+ for the company’s current and future plans, you can understand why ESPN would be hesitant to pony up millions for what they considered a lesser deal. We’ll know in due time whether ESPN not being involved in the Big Ten is more detrimental to ESPN or the Big Ten.
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ESPN now forced to live and die with the SEC only. Perhaps they make a deal with one of the other P5’s to fill programming needs. I don’t think they will reach down to the G5 level. Those schools will have to pay ESPN+ to watch their teams in action. No network or cable spots will be available.tpstulane wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:28 am Just saw this from another story on www.theAthletic.comOn the subject of CBS’ future interest in the Big 12 or Pac-12: “We’re always willing to talk to people,” McManus said. “Right now, we’re totally focused just on the Big Ten in the 3:30 p.m. ET window. We would certainly have conversations if quality games became available in other windows, but we are not actively looking to add any more college football to our schedule. We have the Army-Navy game, which is a huge showcase for us, and we’ve got a lot of college football on CBS Sports Network with the Mountain West and Conference USA.”
The Big Ten did not offer ESPN streaming rights to its football inventory, and without a direct-to-consumer component given the importance of ESPN+ for the company’s current and future plans, you can understand why ESPN would be hesitant to pony up millions for what they considered a lesser deal. We’ll know in due time whether ESPN not being involved in the Big Ten is more detrimental to ESPN or the Big Ten.
Good read. SEC vs Big 10 TV deal
https://theathletic.com/3520031/2022/08 ... ed_article
https://theathletic.com/3520031/2022/08 ... ed_article
The people who run the SEC don’t like to be No. 2 at anything, but in this case, there wasn’t much the current administration could have done to stay even with the Big Ten. The Big Ten’s ability to cash in this big dates back to a shrewd decision by former commissioner Jim Delany in 2016 to sign six-year deals with Fox and Disney/ESPN. Conventional wisdom at the time suggested that cable cord-cutting would lead to a “pop” of the media rights bubble that would lead to lower rights fees in the future, and other leagues — most notably the ACC, which locked itself up with
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Good article here. Recaps each P5 conference TV deal. No mention of G5 unfortunately.
https://theathletic.com/3520740/2022/08 ... ed_article
https://theathletic.com/3520740/2022/08 ... ed_article
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ESPN and FOX goin after the Big12
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ision-deal
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ision-deal
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There isn’t much left to go after. ACC is locked in for another 14 years, and the PAC12 has been gutted. The Big12 was really smart in bringing in BYU, Cincy, UH and UCF—all four will be more than competitive with the existing Big12 schools, and they all bring large and growing TV markets where football is popular.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 am ESPN and FOX goin after the Big12
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ision-deal
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Yes. The AAC should have been pursuing BYU, Baylor, TCU, TXTech and others. We’re been diminished once again with the Big 12 grab. .HoustonWave wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:15 amThere isn’t much left to go after. ACC is locked in for another 14 years, and the PAC12 has been gutted. The Big12 was really smart in bringing in BYU, Cincy, UH and UCF—all four will be more than competitive with the existing Big12 schools, and they all bring large and growing TV markets where football is popular.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 am ESPN and FOX goin after the Big12
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Greatly diminished. It has essentially gutted the AAC.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:28 amYes. The AAC should have been pursuing BYU, Baylor, TCU, TXTech and others. We’re been diminished once again with the Big 12 grab. .HoustonWave wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:15 amThere isn’t much left to go after. ACC is locked in for another 14 years, and the PAC12 has been gutted. The Big12 was really smart in bringing in BYU, Cincy, UH and UCF—all four will be more than competitive with the existing Big12 schools, and they all bring large and growing TV markets where football is popular.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 am ESPN and FOX goin after the Big12
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ision-deal
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As I’ve told you before the AAC had no chance to poach from them. They had $24 million a year to offer and the AAC only had $7 million.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:28 amYes. The AAC should have been pursuing BYU, Baylor, TCU, TXTech and others. We’re been diminished once again with the Big 12 grab. .HoustonWave wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:15 amThere isn’t much left to go after. ACC is locked in for another 14 years, and the PAC12 has been gutted. The Big12 was really smart in bringing in BYU, Cincy, UH and UCF—all four will be more than competitive with the existing Big12 schools, and they all bring large and growing TV markets where football is popular.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 am ESPN and FOX goin after the Big12
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ision-deal
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ESPN- FOX & Big12 media rights
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Would love to see an ACC invite. Once OU and Texas leave the Big 12 won’t be as attractive. TCU and Kansas St won’t have the clout OU and UT did. It’s still better than what the new AAC will be and it will pay more but as far as NYD bowl games we’ll probably still have the same opportunities.
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ACC is a dying Conference, Worst Longterm than the AACtpstulane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 am Would love to see an ACC invite. Once OU and Texas leave the Big 12 won’t be as attractive. TCU and Kansas St won’t have the clout OU and UT did. It’s still better than what the new AAC will be and it will pay more but as far as NYD bowl games we’ll probably still have the same opportunities.
Outside of the Big 10 and SEC they all are. Still would offer fans a better option for competition in FB, MBB and BB.Greeniegb wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:24 pmACC is a dying Conference, Worst Longterm than the AACtpstulane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 am Would love to see an ACC invite. Once OU and Texas leave the Big 12 won’t be as attractive. TCU and Kansas St won’t have the clout OU and UT did. It’s still better than what the new AAC will be and it will pay more but as far as NYD bowl games we’ll probably still have the same opportunities.
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The Big 12 will be just fine. Their schools will now get $50 million a year. They have great facilities and they have large donors to pay well for NIL . They will have at least one team in the playoffs every year when it expands. The AAC won't get a spot every year. I doubt there will be any more expansion as they want to make the most for their members by limiting the number of teams getting a piece of the pie. It is a football oriented league whereas the ACC is more basketball oriented. If by some miracle there is more expansion the Big 12 would be best Tulane athletics.
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The ACC is waiting for Notre Dame to make a decision. That's the real next major domino when it comes to expansion. The Big Ten wants Notre Dame, but Notre Dame does not want the Big Ten. However, they will have to make a decision eventually especially when the college playoffs places priority on conference champions. If the ACC loses out on Notre Dame, that conference will fall apart.
It's not that ND doesn't want the Big 10. It's that they want to keep their independence. The AD sat on the committee that made up the 12 team format and is happy with ND's access to the playoff. The question is how much ND gets offered for their next TV contract. They are looking for $75 million a season. If it falls short of that then the Big 10 is viable and they will look for ways out of their ACC agreement.
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IF Clemson and FSU go it likely isn't till 2035 (IIRC) when the current media expires. It would cost them astronomical amounts to get out before it ends. This isn't about academics. if we are concerned about the student athletes well being the Big 12 is the place to be. Four schools right next door in Texas. A lot more travel in the ACC.
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Don't diminish the value of academics w/r/t conference selection (both ways). I agree that bringing academics into a discussion of athletic prowess is a losing argument at best. But when it comes time for University Presidents to consider a new conference or a new member to their conference, the Presidents want prestigious academics. Does it top factors like the size of the fanbase, historical success, and TV market size? Absolutely not, but it is a factor. And TV market is somewhat over stated as ratings (how many folks actually care enough to watch) numbers are more important than size of the TV market.winwave wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:16 pm IF Clemson and FSU go it likely isn't till 2035 (IIRC) when the current media expires. It would cost them astronomical amounts to get out before it ends. This isn't about academics. if we are concerned about the student athletes well being the Big 12 is the place to be. Four schools right next door in Texas. A lot more travel in the ACC.
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Next year will be a working look into the future for the Big12....it will be a 14 team conference, and it will show if expansion can work after tex and ou leave.winwave wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:22 pm The Big 12 will be just fine. Their schools will now get $50 million a year. They have great facilities and they have large donors to pay well for NIL . They will have at least one team in the playoffs every year when it expands. The AAC won't get a spot every year. I doubt there will be any more expansion as they want to make the most for their members by limiting the number of teams getting a piece of the pie. It is a football oriented league whereas the ACC is more basketball oriented. If by some miracle there is more expansion the Big 12 would be best Tulane athletics.
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Not diminishing it just putting it in its rightful place. Look at the conferences we have been in in modern times. CUSA and AAC are not academic powerhouses. Then as I posted above travel wise the Big 12 is better for our student athletes. Last but not least this all likely moot as there may well not be any more expansion. Less mouths to feed means more money for those already in.DfromCT wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:04 amDon't diminish the value of academics w/r/t conference selection (both ways). I agree that bringing academics into a discussion of athletic prowess is a losing argument at best. But when it comes time for University Presidents to consider a new conference or a new member to their conference, the Presidents want prestigious academics. Does it top factors like the size of the fanbase, historical success, and TV market size? Absolutely not, but it is a factor. And TV market is somewhat over stated as ratings (how many folks actually care enough to watch) numbers are more important than size of the TV market.winwave wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:16 pm IF Clemson and FSU go it likely isn't till 2035 (IIRC) when the current media expires. It would cost them astronomical amounts to get out before it ends. This isn't about academics. if we are concerned about the student athletes well being the Big 12 is the place to be. Four schools right next door in Texas. A lot more travel in the ACC.
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Not really. They know 12 works and financially it suits those 12 better to have less mouths to feed. You can be sure that was all factored into the new TV deal.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:18 amNext year will be a working look into the future for the Big12....it will be a 14 team conference, and it will show if expansion can work after tex and ou leave.winwave wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:22 pm The Big 12 will be just fine. Their schools will now get $50 million a year. They have great facilities and they have large donors to pay well for NIL . They will have at least one team in the playoffs every year when it expands. The AAC won't get a spot every year. I doubt there will be any more expansion as they want to make the most for their members by limiting the number of teams getting a piece of the pie. It is a football oriented league whereas the ACC is more basketball oriented. If by some miracle there is more expansion the Big 12 would be best Tulane athletics.
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