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SMU essentially becomes a program of year-by-year mercenaries. The main difference from the past is that the payments are not hidden anymore. Is that a better way to run a program? Maybe, maybe not. I would prefer to have players that continue through the program over a few years, but I also want to win a fair share of games.


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HoustonWave wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:59 am
tpstulane wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:27 pm
You have to be impressed by SMU’s efforts on the investment front and NIL shoot out. But the dark cloud behind that silver lining is that they become the prime target for P5 recruiting heists. If a P5 school needs to fill a couple recruiting holes, SMU is the first place they’ll look, as SMU continues to grab a lot of the top G5 talent. Hence the mass recruit robbery earlier this week when SMU lost 5 recruits in one day. They are becoming the go to team for P5 raids.
Yes. $36K a player won’t be enough to hold on the top recruits.
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tpstulane wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:39 pm
HoustonWave wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:59 am
tpstulane wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:27 pm
You have to be impressed by SMU’s efforts on the investment front and NIL shoot out. But the dark cloud behind that silver lining is that they become the prime target for P5 recruiting heists. If a P5 school needs to fill a couple recruiting holes, SMU is the first place they’ll look, as SMU continues to grab a lot of the top G5 talent. Hence the mass recruit robbery earlier this week when SMU lost 5 recruits in one day. They are becoming the go to team for P5 raids.
Yes. $36K a player won’t be enough to hold on the top recruits.
No way it can hold them. But thus far, $36K is enough to scrap off a lot of the cream from the G5 recruiting pie. Essentially SMU becomes the Recruiting Search Firm for any P5's that are struggling with recruiting.
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Then they'll turn around and scoop up the top G5 commits from the other G5's.
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Louisiana boy doing a NIL TV commercial
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:13 am Louisiana boy doing a NIL TV commercial
:lol: :lol: The future for TV advertisements.
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winwave wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:38 pm Then they'll turn around and scoop up the top G5 commits from the other G5's.
That's true too.
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HoustonWave wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:14 am
tpstulane wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:13 am Louisiana boy doing a NIL TV commercial
:lol: :lol: The future for TV advertisements.
Exactly lol
“See the Special Man”, “Let her have it”.
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:01 am
HoustonWave wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:14 am
tpstulane wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:13 am Louisiana boy doing a NIL TV commercial
:lol: :lol: The future for TV advertisements.
Exactly lol
“See the Special Man”, “Let her have it”.
Wow, I just watched a couple of those Special Man commercials. As we used to say about many of the low-budget sci fi flicks from the 50's and early 60's---"It's soooo bad, it's good."
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HoustonWave wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:14 pm
tpstulane wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:01 am
HoustonWave wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:14 am

:lol: :lol: The future for TV advertisements.
Exactly lol
“See the Special Man”, “Let her have it”.
Wow, I just watched a couple of those Special Man commercials. As we used to say about many of the low-budget sci fi flicks from the 50's and early 60's---"It's soooo bad, it's good."
Right!
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Fed.Gov working on equal regulation throughout the country. Right now it’s the Wild Wild West. Some states allow paying HS athletes as an incentive and some don’t. The NCAA has given up control at this point . In steps former head coach and current Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville to the rescue.
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Most folks think of Mike Leach as a nut job and his behavior hasn't presented evidence to the contrary. As eccentric as he seems, the man has a law degree from Pepperdine and has some interesting thoughts.

For those of you who lacked the time or inclination to read golfnut's excellent article, here are the salient points:
  • Make incoming freshman players declare as either amateurs or professionals.
  • Amateurs receive no compensation (other than a scholarship) and live by a set of rules similar to life before NIL. However, when they graduate they receive $100K (an amount which is forfeited if they transfer to another school).
  • Players declaring as professionals will be placed in a pool and drafted by college teams where they will be treated as employees. They can be cut and they can be traded. They must sign a contract and will receive a salary from the school. They must attend class (?).
  • But then there's the thing about women's sports and equal compensation...(?)
All things considered, I like it. It's a place to start but there's a lot of hurdles to resolve. I think everyone agrees that NIL as it exists is unsustainable and is ruining college sports.

I believe such a system would benefit Tulane. We would be able to recruit the best of amateur players... those who value academics and have the common sense to realize their chances of playing in the NFL is low. If an amateur player should over-achieve in college, he still leaves with $100K and an opportunity to enter the NFL according to his displayed ability.
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GreenLantern wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:17 am Most folks think of Mike Leach as a nut job and his behavior hasn't presented evidence to the contrary. As eccentric as he seems, the man has a law degree from Pepperdine and has some interesting thoughts.

For those of you who lacked the time or inclination to read golfnut's excellent article, here are the salient points:
  • Make incoming freshman players declare as either amateurs or professionals.
  • Amateurs receive no compensation (other than a scholarship) and live by a set of rules similar to life before NIL. However, when they graduate they receive $100K (an amount which is forfeited if they transfer to another school).
  • Players declaring as professionals will be placed in a pool and drafted by college teams where they will be treated as employees. They can be cut and they can be traded. They must sign a contract and will receive a salary from the school. They must attend class (?).
  • But then there's the thing about women's sports and equal compensation...(?)
All things considered, I like it. It's a place to start but there's a lot of hurdles to resolve. I think everyone agrees that NIL as it exists is unsustainable and is ruining college sports.

I believe such a system would benefit Tulane. We would be able to recruit the best of amateur players... those who value academics and have the common sense to realize their chances of playing in the NFL is low. If an amateur player should over-achieve in college, he still leaves with $100K and an opportunity to enter the NFL according to his displayed ability.
Those are some pretty wild concepts, but I like them. And yes, Lantern, they would help Tulane. Any effort to reign-in and put some order to the NIL chaos will help schools like Tulane.
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OU starting up the Crimson & Cream Collective. The Sooners see the need to elevate their NIL efforts to the SEC/Big 10 level--and that will take a lot of money, every year.
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GreenLantern wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:17 amthose who value academics and have the common sense to realize their chances of playing in the NFL is low.
I really hate to say it, but... those types of players aren't generally going get us where we want to be.
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When even Ohio St. can't afford keeping a recruit, this could end college football long-term!!! Greed is taking over every aspect of life in America, now colleges, what's next.

On NIL:

“Ohio State missed out on a 5-star recruit because they could not pay him even half of what he was looking for. They didn’t get him over $750k.”

Further nugget:

“UGA offered the kid 1.8M to sign and 800k/season... OSU couldn't get him more than 500K”
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Unfortunately there’s no going back. But all that money Texas A&M boosters spent (est $30 million) went down the drain this past season.
Apparently, Texas A&M’s 2022 recruiting class is set to cost the school’s boosters upwards of $30 million in deals for NIL when the prospects officially enroll.
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So what's the purpose of even offering scholarships. If a kid can make $800K a year at 18 years old, he doesn't NEED a free ride.
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You know what's kind of ironic about all this? Some of the schools losing players because they get outbid are the same ones that were all for this when they THOUGHT they would be able to offer more. If there was no NIL, Ohio State probably would have gotten that recruit.
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My favorite line on NIL I saw from the fans of that school up the river.
NIL = “Now It’s Legal”.
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Its a situation where there is so much money out there, no one school can afford to get them all. Like scholarships, you have to pick and choose which ones are most important to you and put resources into those.
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anEngineer wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:44 am Its a situation where there is so much money out there, no one school can afford to get them all. Like scholarships, you have to pick and choose which ones are most important to you and put resources into those.
Why put resources when they can leave anytime they want???
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Greeniegb wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:21 am Why put resources when they can leave anytime they want???
Why bother recruiting at all if you want to take that line of thought? Recruiting IS resources.
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