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There’s a theory being spread on sports talk radio that some Southeastern Conference schools plus Clemson are purposefully exposing their football players to the virus now so that they have immunity to it and won’t get sick during the season. Coincidentally, Clemson, Alabama, LSU have lots of guys with positive tests.
That would be really foolish in light of the fact that the experts say there's a chance the immunity won't be indefinite. It would also be really reckless and would cost people their jobs if it were ever to come out.


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No immunity, virus has mutated again,

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... d=msedgntp
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Another China Flu
China unleashing a new strain of swine flu virus that could become the next pandemic scientists warn. No cure or vaccine available.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/new-str ... warns.html
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:13 am

DfromCT wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm
JerseyWave wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pm
There’s a theory being spread on sports talk radio that some Southeastern Conference schools plus Clemson are purposefully exposing their football players to the virus now so that they have immunity to it and won’t get sick during the season. Coincidentally, Clemson, Alabama, LSU have lots of guys with positive tests.
That would be really foolish in light of the fact that the experts say there's a chance the immunity won't be indefinite. It would also be really reckless and would cost people their jobs if it were ever to come out.
Immunity will most likely last for years. However should the flu mutate the immunity from this strain will not protect.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:13 am
DfromCT wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm
JerseyWave wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pm
There’s a theory being spread on sports talk radio that some Southeastern Conference schools plus Clemson are purposefully exposing their football players to the virus now so that they have immunity to it and won’t get sick during the season. Coincidentally, Clemson, Alabama, LSU have lots of guys with positive tests.
That would be really foolish in light of the fact that the experts say there's a chance the immunity won't be indefinite. It would also be really reckless and would cost people their jobs if it were ever to come out.
Immunity will most likely last for years. However should the flu mutate the immunity from this strain will not protect.
Not only has it mutated, but it's victims are increasingly younger. If it were ever to come out that a football program intentionally exposed their players, and a single player (likely with an undiagnosed existing condition) died, I don't care if you're Nick Saban, you'd never coach again.
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DfromCT wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:01 am
Show Me wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:13 am
DfromCT wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm
JerseyWave wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pm
There’s a theory being spread on sports talk radio that some Southeastern Conference schools plus Clemson are purposefully exposing their football players to the virus now so that they have immunity to it and won’t get sick during the season. Coincidentally, Clemson, Alabama, LSU have lots of guys with positive tests.
That would be really foolish in light of the fact that the experts say there's a chance the immunity won't be indefinite. It would also be really reckless and would cost people their jobs if it were ever to come out.
Immunity will most likely last for years. However should the flu mutate the immunity from this strain will not protect.
Not only has it mutated, but it's victims are increasingly younger. If it were ever to come out that a football program intentionally exposed their players, and a single player (likely with an undiagnosed existing condition) died, I don't care if you're Nick Saban, you'd never coach again.
Actually I’m sure the players and parents are consulted if that were to be proposed. In the old days that’s how it was done. Parents deliberately infected all their kids at once to get it behind them. This virus is not going to kill any 18-21 year old fit athlete. If they have an undiagnosed condition then that’s the risk they take.
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College kids are going to be college kids. Imagine once you get more students in Fall, this is going to get a lot worse. I don't know if I can fully blame these college kids because I'm sure I was just as selfish in undergrad. I'm sure the school admins have their butt clenched tightly praying none of these kids have a severe case or kill some of their older faculty.

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Actually I’m sure the players and parents are consulted if that were to be proposed. In the old days that’s how it was done. Parents deliberately infected all their kids at once to get it behind them. This virus is not going to kill any 18-21 year old fit athlete. If they have an undiagnosed condition then that’s the risk they take.
You can just keep telling yourself that it will never happen, so it won't.

I don't know what kind of parent would ever agree to that. If it were true, and one parent that didn't agree would expose the scandal. Coaches would be fired regardless of whether or not a player died. I think it's nothing but an ugly rumor to begin with.
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Show Me wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:06 am
DfromCT wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:01 am
Show Me wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:13 am
DfromCT wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm
JerseyWave wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pm
There’s a theory being spread on sports talk radio that some Southeastern Conference schools plus Clemson are purposefully exposing their football players to the virus now so that they have immunity to it and won’t get sick during the season. Coincidentally, Clemson, Alabama, LSU have lots of guys with positive tests.
That would be really foolish in light of the fact that the experts say there's a chance the immunity won't be indefinite. It would also be really reckless and would cost people their jobs if it were ever to come out.
Immunity will most likely last for years. However should the flu mutate the immunity from this strain will not protect.
Not only has it mutated, but it's victims are increasingly younger. If it were ever to come out that a football program intentionally exposed their players, and a single player (likely with an undiagnosed existing condition) died, I don't care if you're Nick Saban, you'd never coach again.
Actually I’m sure the players and parents are consulted if that were to be proposed. In the old days that’s how it was done. Parents deliberately infected all their kids at once to get it behind them. This virus is not going to kill any 18-21 year old fit athlete. If they have an undiagnosed condition then that’s the risk they take.
This statement is absurd on several levels. Read it closely and come to your own POV.
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:29 am

Too much gloom and doom on this topic. Finally something to look forward to! 24 out of 24 recipients had 1.5 times the immunity of a recovered subject after receiving the vaccine no side effects. Still early but very encouraging.

Pfizer stock jumps after it reports positive data in early-stage coronavirus vaccine trial.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/pfizer- ... trial.html

Pfizer has extremely conservative management and for them to release this to the public this early tells me they have something. The findings haven’t yet been published in a journal.
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:41 pm

Not unusual, will still take 6-12 months to go thru trials to make sure it is safe long term. Hopefully it will past the test but no impact til 2021!!!
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:03 pm

I thought I read where Sickle cell trait is one of the health issues that can result in dangerous outcomes for people who get COVID. With a vast majority of the players being African American and knowing the sickle cell trait is more commonly found in minorities, wouldn’t it be very dangerous to expose those athletes to COVID? Any Drs in the house?
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NY, NJ and CT have added 8 more states to the mandatory quarantine list if you return from one of them.
The list includes: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Nevada, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Utah. Lamont announced the expansion of the list via his Twitter account Tuesday morning.

States are added to the list based on two criteria — a new daily positive test total higher than 10 per 100,000 residents or a 10 percent or higher positive test rate over a 7-day rolling average.

“Right now in the last few days, we’ve been less than 1 percent, so there’s a real incentive not to have highly infectious people coming into our state,” Lamont said. “And by the way, the shoe was on the other foot just about 90 days ago.”

In Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Texas, Nevada, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, and Utah, the positive infection rate is over 10 percent for a 7-day moving average, according to data from Johns Hopkins coronavirus resource center. In the remaining seven states — Arkansas, California, Iowa, Idaho, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Tennessee — the rolling average is on the rise and the daily positive rate is higher than 10 per 100,000.

If people have recently been tested for the virus, they could show negative test results to shorten their mandatory quarantine.
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I don't know what to think about that.

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Our "strength" as a nation is in it's ability to consume. What we consume we do not produce.. What we produce is fear mongering & division.
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ROLL CARONA, I MEAN TIDE.

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To all that think athletes are not vulnerable to Covid 19. Remember Pistol Pete Maravich, all American, All NBA, Superstar. Well Pete was born with a defect in his heart lucky it did not effect his play but died as a young man in a pick up game after he retired. Imagine if an athlete like Pete today contacted the covid 19 virus. Would it kill him because of his defective heart. Pete had a whole career did not know about this defect. Other players later in their careers found out similar things were physically wrong with them. It God forbid an athlete today with such a defect dies some of you might wake up and realyze this virus can kill anyone as it attacks all your organs lungs, heart, kidneys. Some still have effects months after contacting the virus not knowing if they will ever get back to normal. Permanent lung and heart damage can occur. People focus on recoveries which is stupid. You can survive the virus and have permanent complications, you could have been in ICU for weeks, how many of these that survived ICU were young adults. That needs to be known, if young adults knew they might survive but have to spend weeks in the hospital or ICU would not say well let me ketch it now and be over with It. Stupid Logic!!!
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To all that think athletes are not vulnerable to Covid 19. Remember Pistol Pete Maravich, all American, All NBA, Superstar. Well Pete was born with a defect in his heart lucky it did not effect his play but died as a young man in a pick up game after he retired. Imagine if an athlete like Pete today contacted the covid 19 virus. Would it kill him because of his defective heart. Pete had a whole career did not know about this defect. Other players later in their careers found out similar things were physically wrong with them. It God forbid an athlete today with such a defect dies some of you might wake up and realyze this virus can kill anyone as it attacks all your organs lungs, heart, kidneys. Some still have effects months after contacting the virus not knowing if they will ever get back to normal. Permanent lung and heart damage can occur. People focus on recoveries which is stupid. You can survive the virus and have permanent complications, you could have been in ICU for weeks, how many of these that survived ICU were young adults. That needs to be known, if young adults knew they might survive but have to spend weeks in the hospital or ICU would not say well let me ketch it now and be over with It. Stupid Logic!!!
Looking at the bright side.
Pete died at 40. That’s middle age. Yes he died playing in a church pick-up game. It’s a miracle he lived to 40 with his heart. People are different just because he had a heart condition doesn’t mean he’d died from the virus.
He came down with mononucleosis and survived that more than once. The fact that he was such a trained athlete allowed him to live to 40.

Here’s some facts we do know on who’s dying from this by age group.
74% are 55 and older and .0011% if you’re 24 and under.
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We can’t just ignore the effects of the virus. Long term no one knows. For instance, the Jazz player says he still has trouble with his sense of smell three months after Testing negative.

I see no reason why these pro athletes can’t get to playing as they are paid and the leagues are doing everything to protect them. If I was a parent of a college athlete I would be very concerned that my child is being put at risk so the university can make their money. It just does not seem like the most equitable trade off.
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We can’t just ignore the effects of the virus. Long term no one knows. For instance, the Jazz player says he still has trouble with his sense of smell three months after Testing negative.

I see no reason why these pro athletes can’t get to playing as they are paid and the leagues are doing everything to protect them. If I was a parent of a college athlete I would be very concerned that my child is being put at risk so the university can make their money. It just does not seem like the most equitable trade off.
I agree on some of that but some may have long term issues but many may not. I think if anyone is not comfortable with the risk then they should feel no pressure to participate in sports. If my kid wanted to play FB I’d let him. If he didn’t then I’d support that choice as well. Same with a daughter in other sports. Let the pros decide for themselves.
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A handful of MLB and NBA players are sitting out. Most want their paychecks more than they fear the virus.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:23 pm

TPS you missed the whole point, Coronavirus targets multiple organs, Lungs, Heart and Kidneys. If Maravich in his prime caught something like this virus it could have killed him. Not about who dies at what age from the virus. Many young may survive after long time in the hospitals or ICU's that has to be known just because someone does not die does not mean they do not have long term damage due to the virus. Months after getting the virus it lingers in their bodies. Loss of lung capacity, blood clots and weak hearts and more. An athlete that loses lung capacity is a damaged athlete. We need breakdown of age groups hospitalized and going into ICU's.
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TPS you missed the whole point, Coronavirus targets multiple organs, Lungs, Heart and Kidneys. If Maravich in his prime caught something like this virus it could have killed him. Not about who dies at what age from the virus. Many young may survive after long time in the hospitals or ICU's that has to be known just because someone does not die does not mean they do not have long term damage due to the virus. Months after getting the virus it lingers in their bodies. Loss of lung capacity, blood clots and weak hearts and more. An athlete that loses lung capacity is a damaged athlete. We need breakdown of age groups hospitalized and going into ICU's.
No way to be sure. Everyone is different. He could have been Asymptotic. Anything else is just speculation.
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Maybe they would have given him hydroxychloroquine. Unless of course, he lived in a blue state where Dem governors banned doctors from prescribing it. They alone probably killed thousands because they couldn't stand to admit Trump was right.


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Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:07 pm

It’s starting to look like the next college football season will be in the spring of 2021. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is how it plays out.
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