Quarterback Competition?

[YulkeithBrownFan]

As has already been posted even Duncan said it was just to light a fire under Ty and Kai. This is a 2 man race as he said clearly just a few days before.

Or it could be that he’s okay with starting Mensah as he himself said

[winwave]

It's coach speak. Easy to do well when you're going against the 2's and 3's than the one's. If you're going to be a reporter you have to learn that just because a coach says something doesn't mean it's true. Duncan obviously realized that.

[DfromCT]

Nobody saw Pratt taking over as a true Freshman either. I wouldn't be surprised to see Mensah start at some point this season. But if it's not the start of the season, it probably means our playoff opportunity has come and gone.

[winwave]

The conversation is about is it currently a 3 man competition. It's not. He didn't take any reps with the ones in the spring. It goes without saying that if he ends up starting at some point we have either had both Ty and Kai get injured or both have greatly disappointed, and this critical season will be a disaster.

[NOLABigSteve]

As has already been posted even Duncan said it was just to light a fire under Ty and Kai. This is a 2 man race as he said clearly just a few days before.

Or it could be that he’s okay with starting Mensah as he himself said

Every coach I’ve played for has done this. He’s trying to light a fire under their collective asses. Ty will get the start. Book it.

[DfromCT]

I have serious doubts that Ty has secured the job. If he has, it absolutely makes sense to name him the starter and entrust him with the leadership role expected from the starting QB. I would be astonished if we started Mensah on August 29th. It wouldn't even remotely surprise me to see Kai taking the lead. Regardless of who emerges as the victor in the competition, they need to firmly establish themselves as the starter and assert their dominance by midseason. Personally, I'm rooting for Horton, given his more meaningful playing time and the potential motivation stemming from the debacle at the end of the Ole Miss game. He should have a chip on his shoulder as most feel that game would have been a win, probably a blowout, had Pratt played. My point being just as Pratt used the OU loss to motivate him in 2022, Horton can use the Ole Miss loss to do the same..

[winwave]

It's going to be interesting to see who starts between Ty and Kai for the SLU game. I think the coaches clear preference would be for Ty to distance himself as he is a true dual threat. He hasn't been able to do that at all at this point. If there is no separation you would think Kai's more meaningful playing time would get him the nod for that game and see a split of reps to see both in game conditions. The problem with Ty is that he's so afraid to make a mistake it causes hesitation which can to turnovers or sacks. As to Kai the problem is he can be too much of a gunslinger leading to turnovers. We need vast improvement from both and soon.

[gbgreenie]

As has already been posted even Duncan said it was just to light a fire under Ty and Kai. This is a 2 man race as he said clearly just a few days before.

Or it could be that he’s okay with starting Mensah as he himself said

Every coach I’ve played for has done this. He’s trying to light a fire under their collective asses. Ty will get the start. Book it.

If Ty was the appointed starter Sumrall would not be waiting this long with all of the fanfare coming in that was the easy choice, not happening, Kai is fighting to secure what he worked the last 3 years for not to have a newcomer kick him out. What we don't see is team chemistry, players that have been here seeing Kai put it out on the field for 3 years will favor Kai, newcomers from a different perspective will pull for Ty.

[gbgreenie]

It's going to be interesting to see who starts between Ty and Kai for the SLU game. I think the coaches clear preference would be for Ty to distance himself as he is a true dual threat. He hasn't been able to do that at all at this point. If there is no separation you would think Kai's more meaningful playing time would get him the nod for that game and see a split of reps to see both in game conditions. The problem with Ty is that he's so afraid to make a mistake it causes hesitation which can to turnovers or sacks. As to Kai the problem is he can be too much of a gunslinger leading to turnovers. We need vast improvement from both and soon.

Good points, Sumrall will start the most consistent that takes care of the ball. Just like Pratt at times a runner does not always give receivers time for separation because they take off too quickly. Confuses receivers at times!!! Kai will sit in the pocket giving receivers time to break free and hit the big play, I believe Sumrall likes that but is tempted by Ty's running ability but as with Pratt it did not always mesh with the receivers.

[Tulane1111]

The other point he was making is about the quality of the rest of the team, defense & O line/running game…. If he feels like he has a strong defense now and very good O line as he mentioned, qb role may be changing. Probably not coach speak in terms of taking care of the football and who does this the best.

[DfromCT]

gbg, Pratt did not have happy feet nor run when it wasn’t a designed run for him or when he was running for his life. Your claim that his running prevented receivers from completing their roots is ludicrous. And yes, Horton lost the Ole Miss game, a game we would have put away by halftime had Pratt been healthy. And still could have won had Horton not stepped out of bounds before diving for the sticks late.

The OC told us back in January that the offense would be rush heavy with it setting up chunk plays in the passing game. If the QB position is a “game manager” one, we’re going to lose WR’s in the portal at seasons end. I think there’s a lot of talent in the WR room that needs touches. Hughes needs touches. I don’t think we’re going to want or need very many plays where the QB is the preferred ball carrier.

I’ve seen a lot of passing highlights, but that’s why they’re highlights. I also know all of the QBs have thrown interceptions. Someone that’s been going to the scrimmages can tell better than me if the play calling is run heavy.

[NOLABigSteve]

If Ty was the appointed starter Sumrall would not be waiting this long with all of the fanfare coming in that was the easy choice, not happening, Kai is fighting to secure what he worked the last 3 years for not to have a newcomer kick him out. What we don't see is team chemistry, players that have been here seeing Kai put it out on the field for 3 years will favor Kai, newcomers from a different perspective will pull for Ty.

I didn't say Ty was the appointed starter. I said I believe he will get the start.

[TURVS71]

I would prefer the better “runner” and that would be Ty! Passing improves with each game , the ability to run is God given, IMO..

[greenie78]

I would prefer the better “runner” and that would be Ty! Passing improves with each game , the ability to run is God given, IMO..

Mensah is the best runner out of all 3.

[greenie78]

If Ty isn't stepping up at this point in his career where he can clearly win the job, then it doesn't look good for him. Kai's an ok QB, but he has alot to improve on and it's just not avoiding mistakes. He still hasn't shown the ability to run a screen play. He's attempted 3 screen plays in his career and they've all been disastrous. He has a good arm and has the ability to anticipate throws, but he's inconsistent. Either way, both guys have all the pieces around them to be successful especially in conference play. This could be a situation similar to last year's RB competition where we get a surprise performer (Mensah) similar to where Hughes become the guy out of nowhere.

[Dave breslin]

I think all of this is yada yada and a ploy to make competition. Either way, I believe we are “hiding “ our playbook because we have a few BIG games at the beginning of the season.
Of course, my thinking isn’t worth much( in fact my wife says it’s not worth anything

[TURVS71]

With all the talk about Mensah, could he possibly be used in the offense in certain situations?

[tpstulane]

Mensah took snaps with the 1s at Saturdays scrimmage. The fact is neither Kai or Ty has stepped up and taken the job. It’s given way to an opening for Mensah. He may not win the job but as of today he has a real shot

Kudos!
You were the first to see that potential!

[YulkeithBrownFan]

Fun walk down memory lane reading this thread. Maybe win wave will buy me one of them $30 superior margaritas at the k state hand and we call it even. Got to have something to wash down all that crow he is eating,

Mensah took snaps with the 1s at Saturdays scrimmage. The fact is neither Kai or Ty has stepped up and taken the job. It’s given way to an opening for Mensah. He may not win the job but as of today he has a real shot

Kudos!
You were the first to see that potential!

[winwave]

No crow to eat. He didn't take reps with the ones back then. He only started getting reps with the ones two weeks into fall camp. He was throwing ducks in all those scrimmages and spring game too. He has made a huge jump from the spring and everyone is happy to see it.