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It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.


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GreenLantern wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.
Under Bowden/RR we pretty much filled up the Plaza & Loge levels, & I remember it being loud in the Dome. But then, after 7 years of Scelfo & 5 years of "Buffet" Bob Toledo, the "magic" was gone.
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Winning against QUALITY OPPONENTS solves a lot!
BAYWAVE&Sophandros are SPINELESS COWARDS
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6-4-23:Now all of the mistakes Tulane has made finally catches up with them as they descend to CUSAAC.
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Wave755 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:44 pm
GreenLantern wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.
Under Bowden/RR we pretty much filled up the Plaza & Loge levels, & I remember it being loud in the Dome. But then, after 7 years of Scelfo & 5 years of "Buffet" Bob Toledo, the "magic" was gone.
When we moved in we had good crowds and people sitting in the terrace. Got bigger under Smith and on through Mack. Then it started the downslide with the losing.
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winwave wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:00 pm
Wave755 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:44 pm
GreenLantern wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.
Under Bowden/RR we pretty much filled up the Plaza & Loge levels, & I remember it being loud in the Dome. But then, after 7 years of Scelfo & 5 years of "Buffet" Bob Toledo, the "magic" was gone.
When we moved in we had good crowds and people sitting in the terrace. Got bigger under Smith and on through Mack. Then it started the downslide with the losing.
I remember. 🤔
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winwave wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:56 pm Winning against QUALITY OPPONENTS solves a lot!
Unfortunately that will never happen again.
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I was just reminding people that it matters who you beat. Tulane has dumbed down schedules in the past to try and get wins but it doesn't fool people and doesn't draw more fans.
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winwave wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm I was just reminding people that it matters who you beat. Tulane has dumbed down schedules in the past to try and get wins but it doesn't fool people and doesn't draw more fans.
Couldn't agree more! The never, never strategy. D3 Here we come!
BTW: Don Brown is the UMass Head Coach. He's a lifelong DC & head coach. He knows a thing or two on his side of the ball. If old school Willy goes up 30+ in the second half you'll see the 2nd, 3rd & walk-ons for most of the fourth quarter. I'd take UMass to cover.
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The dummied down schedules are the result of (1) always having to schedule an FCS or I-AA school in order to have any chance at 6 wins, and (2) the fact that our now 35+ year decline makes it very difficult to get 1-for-1 contracts with any school of consequence. We are who we run with--and that's getting ready to take another plunge starting next year.

Here's an interesting fact dump on Tulane's football history. Note the Strength of Schedule stat--it held up about 20 years after we left the SEC. Then in 1986 it took a permanent dive from which it has never really recovered. That's what's so tough for us old timers, who remember the days that we played, and even beat, teams of consequence.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... index.html
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Wave755 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:44 pm
GreenLantern wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.
Under Bowden/RR we pretty much filled up the Plaza & Loge levels, & I remember it being loud in the Dome. But then, after 7 years of Scelfo & 5 years of "Buffet" Bob Toledo, the "magic" was gone.
I remember TB making snide remarks like “if you squint your eyes, the stands look full.”

We had problems drawing crowds even in that magical year. I believe the finale vs La Tech was the only game we drew more than 40,000.

Of course that was Nirvana compared to Buffet Bob’s sub 1,000 attendance.
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BC Wave wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:14 am
Wave755 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:44 pm
GreenLantern wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm It was a rocking good time at the last game in the Dome (the New Orleans Bowl in December 2013 against ULaLa). Hard to imagine that it has been almost 10 years.

I’ve got to confess, the older I get, the more I appreciate indoor, air-conditioned football games.
Under Bowden/RR we pretty much filled up the Plaza & Loge levels, & I remember it being loud in the Dome. But then, after 7 years of Scelfo & 5 years of "Buffet" Bob Toledo, the "magic" was gone.
I remember TB making snide remarks like “if you squint your eyes, the stands look full.”

We had problems drawing crowds even in that magical year. I believe the finale vs La Tech was the only game we drew more than 40,000.

Of course that was Nirvana compared to Buffet Bob’s sub 1,000 attendance.
True, for "Buffet" Bob's "swan song," the UTEP game for 2011 which we lost in a blow-out 44-7, the scanner count for attendance was widely reported to have been 972. :clap: In regard to Bowden/RR, the Ole Miss game in '97 was very well attended and felt a lot like the Larry Smith era of the late 1970s.
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The attendance grew all season in 98. People forget two games were impacted by Hurricanes.
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Tulane has always sat still waiting on others to make moves then hire or build on the cheap to just be content to keep up. Nothing has changed in the last 70 years or so. Going forward I see the same thing. I was fortunate to see some success while I was in school. I’ll always remember the 3 out of 4 wins against LSU from ‘79-‘82. Outside of ‘98 there hasn’t been much to get excited about. I believe Tulane thought going back to campus would create excitement. I did at least for one day. The Georgia Tech grand opening. But the heat, humidity and losing was a wake-up call. Had we built at 35K-40K stadium with expansion capability it would have been more acceptable. Unfortunately Tulane going cheap when they had a real chance to go big time sealed our fate. . With CUSAAC starting next season it’s going to be depressing for me watching us play those new schools. Especially growing up watching us play top 25 schedule for decades. Going to be even more painful when we lose to them.
If Gibson Hall only had athletic visions of success equal to that of the academic side we’d be in a different situation today.
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winwave wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:03 pm The attendance grew all season in 98. People forget two games were impacted by Hurricanes.
And, don't forget, almost all of our home games were broadcast live on Fox Sports Southwest that year, so a lot of people watched those games in real-time from their sofas in Metairie rather than attending in the Dome.
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It is one thing to soften a schedule and then you go 11-1 vs Tulane who dumbed it down to go 2-10. If we had a soft schedule that guaranteed us 10 wins and building a national brand, I think we would all take it and people would show up. Double digit wins gets you notoriety. SMU has been doing it the last few years playing soft OOC schedules and also playing a down TCU team. They have been ranked in the top 25 last 2-3 years only tin finish about .500 the second half of the seasons. But now they are gaining momentum in all areas even due to being 7+ wins a year including 3 softball victories. We just have sucked enough to take a soft schedule and still lose. :lol:
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TXWave88 wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:47 pm It is one thing to soften a schedule and then you go 11-1 vs Tulane who dumbed it down to go 2-10. If we had a soft schedule that guaranteed us 10 wins and building a national brand, I think we would all take it and people would show up. Double digit wins gets you notoriety. SMU has been doing it the last few years playing soft OOC schedules and also playing a down TCU team. They have been ranked in the top 25 last 2-3 years only tin finish about .500 the second half of the seasons. But now they are gaining momentum in all areas even due to being 7+ wins a year including 3 softball victories. We just have sucked enough to take a soft schedule and still lose. :lol:
IF you're referring to last season's 2-10 debacle, that was far from a soft schedule. This year 6-6 should get Fritz fired, it's a MUCH weaker schedule than a year ago.
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tpstulane wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:25 pm Tulane has always sat still waiting on others to make moves then hire or build on the cheap to just be content to keep up. Nothing has changed in the last 70 years or so. Going forward I see the same thing. I was fortunate to see some success while I was in school. I’ll always remember the 3 out of 4 wins against LSU from ‘79-‘82. Outside of ‘98 there hasn’t been much to get excited about. I believe Tulane thought going back to campus would create excitement. I did at least for one day. The Georgia Tech grand opening. But the heat, humidity and losing was a wake-up call. Had we built at 35K-40K stadium with expansion capability it would have been more acceptable. Unfortunately Tulane going cheap when they had a real chance to go big time sealed our fate. . With CUSAAC starting next season it’s going to be depressing for me watching us play those new schools. Especially growing up watching us play top 25 schedule for decades. Going to be even more painful when we lose to them.
If Gibson Hall only had athletic visions of success equal to that of the academic side we’d be in a different situation today.
Cowen killed such success after the 1998 season--when we finished 12-0, ranked #7, and had a USN&WR academic ranking in the mid-30's. Here we are today nowhere to be found in any athletic rankings and tied with about 5 other schools for the 46th slot in USN&WR, a hair's breadth from dropping into the lower 50's again--and after next year that's a distinct possibility, because everyone sees you by the company that you keep--CUSAAC.
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Think winning (even small traces of winning) doesn’t greatly impact attendance even when games are televised? Try buying a season ticket to Tulane basketball this year.
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Saw today cash is trash at Tulane nowadays. Saw the cheap $5 tickets available for UMASS was going to buy about 10 and take my grandson and his friends to the game. They are 12 years old range and have no credit card. I took them last year and their parents gave them money to spend. How are they going to get drinks and food now without cash? Has anyone at Tulane thought about this?
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GreenLantern wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:17 pm Think winning (even small traces of winning) doesn’t greatly impact attendance even when games are televised? Try buying a season ticket to Tulane basketball this year.
There’s less than 3000 to begin with when you block off the gym for students etc. I was around when students had to camp out to get in. I doubt we see that anytime soon.
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Show Me wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15 pm Saw today cash is trash at Tulane nowadays. Saw the cheap $5 tickets available for UMASS was going to buy about 10 and take my grandson and his friends to the game. They are 12 years old range and have no credit card. I took them last year and their parents gave them money to spend. How are they going to get drinks and food now without cash? Has anyone at Tulane thought about this?
There’s plans for a cash conversion machine in Sec 105 where you can put in a $10 and get a $10 card out etc.
But if those kids only spend say $8 I guess the $2 stays on the card. Not sure if you can go back to the machine and get the difference.
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Show Me wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15 pm Saw today cash is trash at Tulane nowadays. Saw the cheap $5 tickets available for UMASS was going to buy about 10 and take my grandson and his friends to the game. They are 12 years old range and have no credit card. I took them last year and their parents gave them money to spend. How are they going to get drinks and food now without cash? Has anyone at Tulane thought about this?
You had better get used to it. That is the trend everywhere... absolutely everywhere. Businesses don't want employees handling cash and the government doesn't want ANYONE using it.
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anEngineer wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:04 pm
Show Me wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15 pm Saw today cash is trash at Tulane nowadays. Saw the cheap $5 tickets available for UMASS was going to buy about 10 and take my grandson and his friends to the game. They are 12 years old range and have no credit card. I took them last year and their parents gave them money to spend. How are they going to get drinks and food now without cash? Has anyone at Tulane thought about this?
You had better get used to it. That is the trend everywhere... absolutely everywhere. Businesses don't want employees handling cash and the government doesn't want ANYONE using it.
I've been to baseball games at Citifield and Yankee Stadium. Neither accepts cash from parking through concessions. Even the vendors in the aisles take plastic only. Both stadiums have Uber Eats Pickup facilities. You use your Uber app and order and pick up at special location within the concessions. The expensive seats you order at your seat and it's delivered.
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DfromCT wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:10 pm
anEngineer wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:04 pm
Show Me wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15 pm Saw today cash is trash at Tulane nowadays. Saw the cheap $5 tickets available for UMASS was going to buy about 10 and take my grandson and his friends to the game. They are 12 years old range and have no credit card. I took them last year and their parents gave them money to spend. How are they going to get drinks and food now without cash? Has anyone at Tulane thought about this?
You had better get used to it. That is the trend everywhere... absolutely everywhere. Businesses don't want employees handling cash and the government doesn't want ANYONE using it.
I've been to baseball games at Citifield and Yankee Stadium. Neither accepts cash from parking through concessions. Even the vendors in the aisles take plastic only. Both stadiums have Uber Eats Pickup facilities. You use your Uber app and order and pick up at special location within the concessions. The expensive seats you order at your seat and it's delivered.
What a time to be alive! Soon we will see a news story of someone who was mugged and the attacker left the money and took the credit cards.
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Venmo should be allowed also. Cash App, Apple Pay. PayPal etc. I like the casino. Cold hard cash still king!
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