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What you miss is that those that are listed as unvaxxed and got included in those stats include those unvaxxed but had COVID at some point.


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winwave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:45 pm What you miss is that those that are listed as unvaxxed and got included in those stats include those unvaxxed but had COVID at some point.
Actually, most of it doesn't. Even that study broke it down to 4 categories" uninfected unvaxxed, recovered unvaxxed, uninfected vaxxed, and recovered vaxxed. Only recovered AND vaxxed did better than recovered unvaxxed.

And you still refuse to acknowledge that you're treating someone who has equal protection as if they're second class citizens. When govt is willing to acknowledge that acquired immunity EXISTS, only then will we be able to move forward.
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Go back to any Tulane football game this past season. Let's take the Oct 30 game against Cincinnati as an example. Person A gets their vaccinations on Sept 15 and Oct 15. Person B gets Covid on Sept 28th and recovers. According to the data, both have levels of immune protection, and person B probably has a bit higher protection, especially since Delta was around at the time. And yet, Person A was allowed to attend the game, and Person B wasn't. Person B is healthy, not sick, and yet discriminated against.
You're ok with that. And you say you're the caring one.
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RobertM320 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:28 pm Go back to any Tulane football game this past season. Let's take the Oct 30 game against Cincinnati as an example. Person A gets their vaccinations on Sept 15 and Oct 15. Person B gets Covid on Sept 28th and recovers. According to the data, both have levels of immune protection, and person B probably has a bit higher protection, especially since Delta was around at the time. And yet, Person A was allowed to attend the game, and Person B wasn't. Person B is healthy, not sick, and yet discriminated against.
You're ok with that. And you say you're the caring one.
Does Person B have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies??
Yes, then please enjoy the game. No? later, brah!
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dpm wave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm
RobertM320 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:28 pm Go back to any Tulane football game this past season. Let's take the Oct 30 game against Cincinnati as an example. Person A gets their vaccinations on Sept 15 and Oct 15. Person B gets Covid on Sept 28th and recovers. According to the data, both have levels of immune protection, and person B probably has a bit higher protection, especially since Delta was around at the time. And yet, Person A was allowed to attend the game, and Person B wasn't. Person B is healthy, not sick, and yet discriminated against.
You're ok with that. And you say you're the caring one.
Does Person B have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies??
Yes, then please enjoy the game. No? later, brah!
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dpm wave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm Does Person B have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies??
Yes, then please enjoy the game. No? later, brah!
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dpm wave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm
RobertM320 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:28 pm Go back to any Tulane football game this past season. Let's take the Oct 30 game against Cincinnati as an example. Person A gets their vaccinations on Sept 15 and Oct 15. Person B gets Covid on Sept 28th and recovers. According to the data, both have levels of immune protection, and person B probably has a bit higher protection, especially since Delta was around at the time. And yet, Person A was allowed to attend the game, and Person B wasn't. Person B is healthy, not sick, and yet discriminated against.
You're ok with that. And you say you're the caring one.
Does Person B have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies??
Yes, then please enjoy the game. No? later, brah!
Ah, but there's the issue. Again, two different rules for different people. There are people who got two doses of vaccine, and didn't develop a high level of antibodies. Its been proven that getting Covid provides antibodies, just as the vaccine does. So, either you accept that the levels are high enough in both cases for a certain period of time (3 months, 6 months, whatever), and if you're in that window you get in. OR, you require everyone to get a blood test as proof. You're still ASSUMING vaccination gives you higher protection (antibodies) than actually getting Covid does. And yet, the only hard data so far says its the opposite.

I find your false sense of security amusing. You'll go to a game with 10000 other vaxxed individuals, who may or may not be actually carrying Covid and are capable of spreading it, but you won't go to a game if there's 1000 unvaxxed individuals there, who ALSO may or may not be actually carrying Covid. You're no better off in either situation. But you THINK you are. The brainwashing power of the media is strong.
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dpm wave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm
RobertM320 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:28 pm Go back to any Tulane football game this past season. Let's take the Oct 30 game against Cincinnati as an example. Person A gets their vaccinations on Sept 15 and Oct 15. Person B gets Covid on Sept 28th and recovers. According to the data, both have levels of immune protection, and person B probably has a bit higher protection, especially since Delta was around at the time. And yet, Person A was allowed to attend the game, and Person B wasn't. Person B is healthy, not sick, and yet discriminated against.
You're ok with that. And you say you're the caring one.
Does Person B have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies??
Yes, then please enjoy the game. No? later, brah!
Does Person A have documentation from an accredited lab with blood test results showing his level of active antibodies? Or are you just trusting that because he has a piece of paper, his AB levels are high enough? Seems like you're risking your life on the assumption that rides with that piece of paper. Kinda crazy to me.
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Forty two people in Louisiana died of Omicron yesterday. And not that some people care but this variant is hitting children.
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winwave wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:52 pm Forty two people in Louisiana died of Omicron yesterday. And not that some people care but this variant is hitting children.
1. Yes, children get colds and flu. Not surprising.

2. Delta is still around. The data isn't available to know specifically which variant the people who died yesterday actually died of yet. You know that.

3. Now take a look at how many of those 42 actually died FROM Covid, not just WITH Covid, since the CDC has now admitted there's a difference. They've also admitted close to half the people that are listed as being in hospitals with Covid, didn't actually go to the hospital FOR Covid. They went for other issues.


Again, back to the same thing. I've never said Covid wasn't real. I've never said people don't die of it. People die all the time. I've never said recovered immunity lasts forever. I've said if someone feels the need to get vaxxed, that's fine. I've agreed with you on any number of things, because those things are factual.

And yet, you REFUSE to acknowledge I'm right on the one thing I've stood on, which is ALSO FACT, that if you had Covid and recovered, you've received immunity comparable to the two-dose vaccines, and therefore should be allowed anywhere a vaxxed person is. But then I forget, you're winwave, and you're ALWAYS right.
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Children are dying from Omicron unlike any other variant.

42 people died from Omicron in Louisiana on Thursday.

You clearly didn't pay attention to your report you posted. It said some hospitals and then said maybe some hospitals just in NY.

You said yesterday that recovered immunity last forever.

You posted a limited study that doesn't prove what you want it to. More importantly even the authors of that said to GET VACCINATED!
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Unvaccinated, unboosted people 97 times more likely to die from COVID according to CDC study.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 308759002/
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GreenLantern wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:48 am Unvaccinated, unboosted people 97 times more likely to die from COVID according to CDC study.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 308759002/

"For every 100,000 people, 9.7 of those who were unvaccinated were killed by the coronavirus, compared to 0.7 of those fully vaccinated and 0.1 of the boosted."

So that's ONE of every TEN THOUSAND people who get Covid and are unvaccinated were killed by the virus. That's 0.01%. On top of which that's not just a random .01%. Those with comorbidities are included in that 0.01%. So a healthy person is even lower than 0.01%. Not worth the risk of adverse effects from the vax to reduce that any further. But you do you.


That's exactly what the media always does to push their narrative. 97 TIMES more likely! 97 x a number that's almost ZERO, is STILL almost ZERO.

A person with a steel lightning rod on the top of their head is 50X more likely than a normal person to get struck by lightning. Since the odds of getting struck by lightning are already extremely low, this doesn't really move the needle.
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winwave wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:57 pm Children are dying from Omicron unlike any other variant.

42 people died from Omicron in Louisiana on Thursday.

You clearly didn't pay attention to your report you posted. It said some hospitals and then said maybe some hospitals just in NY.

You said yesterday that recovered immunity last forever.

You posted a limited study that doesn't prove what you want it to. More importantly even the authors of that said to GET VACCINATED!
Now you're just flat out lying.

I have NEVER stated that recovered immunity lasts forever. All I've ever said is that, once you've had it, you've got SOME immunity for SOME period of time, just like the vaccines. Now, is it POSSIBLE that it lasts forever? No one knows because it hasn't been around long enough to know. But I've NEVER said it absolutely lasts forever.
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You've claimed so much BS and have outright lied numerous times and have posted completely debunked whack job BS it's hard to keep up with. Not going back through all your craziness to find it.
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Excuses. Because I've NEVER said that.
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FYI His obit claims he died from vaccine complications
Local young man. Age 33.
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….courageous battle due to complications from the Covid-19 vaccine.
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RobertM320 wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:18 pm Excuses. Because I've NEVER said that.
Sure you haven't. :roll: At this point though no one cares what you claim after all the BS you have posted.
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:41 pm FYI His obit claims he died from vaccine complications
Local young man. Age 33.
https://obits.nola.com/us/obituaries/no ... d=32636153
….courageous battle due to complications from the Covid-19 vaccine.
It's sad to see someone so young die. It is an extremely rare case if what the family claims there is the whole story. Yet millions have died from COVID because they refused to be vaccinated . Yet the crazies will try to parlay this unfortunate death in to the narrative that the vaccine is unsafe.
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winwave wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:03 pm
tpstulane wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:41 pm FYI His obit claims he died from vaccine complications
Local young man. Age 33.
https://obits.nola.com/us/obituaries/no ... d=32636153
….courageous battle due to complications from the Covid-19 vaccine.
It's sad to see someone so young die. It is an extremely rare case if what the family claims there is the whole story. Yet millions have died from COVID because they refused to be vaccinated . Yet the crazies will try to parlay this unfortunate death in to the narrative that the vaccine is unsafe.
MILLIONS? First, we've only had 850K deaths total. Almost half of those came BEFORE there were vaccines. Who's spreading the BS hyperbole now? Even if you talk the entire world, its not MILLIONS that have died because they refused to be vaxxed. But you'll stand by your narrative despite increasing proof that you're wrong.
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Almost 6 million dead worldwide in this pandemic of the unvaxxed.
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Why some get it and why some don’t
https://www.iheart.com/content/2022-02- ... hers-dont/
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RobertM320 wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:30 pm
winwave wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:03 pm
tpstulane wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:41 pm FYI His obit claims he died from vaccine complications
Local young man. Age 33.
https://obits.nola.com/us/obituaries/no ... d=32636153

It's sad to see someone so young die. It is an extremely rare case if what the family claims there is the whole story. Yet millions have died from COVID because they refused to be vaccinated . Yet the crazies will try to parlay this unfortunate death in to the narrative that the vaccine is unsafe.
MILLIONS? First, we've only had 850K deaths total. Almost half of those came BEFORE there were vaccines. Who's spreading the BS hyperbole now? Even if you talk the entire world, its not MILLIONS that have died because they refused to be vaxxed. But you'll stand by your narrative despite increasing proof that you're wrong.
Look at the source of the info, well my daughter is suffering because she refused to be vaccinated. Now she has long term covid suffering every day. From the Mayo Clinic cause of Still Desease can be a sudden bacterial infection. Sometimes things are not what they seem to be. Anti vaxers will take off with info like this and run to suit their interests!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20351907


Doctor using her own pregnancy to show moms-to-be that COVID vaccine is safe

One doctor who sees the deadly toll COVID can take on mothers and their babies, is trying to change that statistic.
Dr. Jane Martin is an Ochsner OB-GYN who specializes in treating high-risk pregnancies. And in the last two pandemic years, she has seen pregnant patients with COVID go through heartbreak.

“We've lost mothers. Many women have lost their babies at varying stages of pregnancy. The risk of preterm delivery is higher with COVID. The risk of cesarean section is higher. We had many women deliver very, very early with their babies having lengthy long NICU stays,” said Dr. Martin, Ochsner Maternal-Fetal Physician.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... =bingcovid
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winwave wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:31 pm Almost 6 million dead worldwide in this pandemic of the unvaxxed.
Six million worldwide, over half of which died BEFORE vaccines even existed. Nothing to do with vaxxed vs unvaxxed. But if it supports your narrative, doesn't matter if its factual or not.
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Yulman Vaxx Day tomorrow free tickets to Tulane vs ECU basketball game.
Former NFL players including the Wave tomorrow from 8am to noon. Music and other things.
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Those who are getting their first shot will receive a $100 debit card while supplies last. The event will feature giveaways, including swag and Tulane basketball tickets, free concession food and activities for kids, including face painting, candy, coloring books and t-shirts. Music and live coverage from a local radio station will round out the event. Attendees may also enter a free raffle to win a player-signed NFL Alumni football.
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