And probably an easier time here, as there's no JMU type competition in the AAC.
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The more I think about it, the more I agree with you, kind of anyway! I think it serves that purpose. In other words every underpaid HCs agent is asking their client if they'd be interested in the Tulane job. Most of the G5 falls into that category and we could attract some very good coaches. I just wonder if Tulane thought it through and really put it out there for that purpose?puffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:02 pmI realize that it was a middle of the week posting...which tells me this deal was long in the making and Tulane knew he was out of the door. So this leak of what they were willing to pay was to see who out there would be interested in the job once Fritz-to-Houston was official.
Either way, I hope we get a good, experienced coach. I kind of like the guy at APP State, Shawn Clark. He builds similarly to Fritz, recruiting young men of character, building on culture and tradition. He's 34-17 as a HC in the SBC. I think he'd be able to come in and keep things going.
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Says the queen of whining. Glad your horrific choices for AD didn't get the job.
Small time facilities for a small time program.
6-4-23:Now all of the mistakes Tulane has made finally catches up with them as they descend to CUSAAC.
6-4-23:Now all of the mistakes Tulane has made finally catches up with them as they descend to CUSAAC.
Absolutely. The dead giveaway was Wes Fritz began following all the UH recruits on X (Twitter about a week ago).DfromCT wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:36 pmThe more I think about it, the more I agree with you, kind of anyway! I think it serves that purpose. In other words every underpaid HCs agent is asking their client if they'd be interested in the Tulane job. Most of the G5 falls into that category and we could attract some very good coaches. I just wonder if Tulane thought it through and really put it out there for that purpose?puffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:02 pmI realize that it was a middle of the week posting...which tells me this deal was long in the making and Tulane knew he was out of the door. So this leak of what they were willing to pay was to see who out there would be interested in the job once Fritz-to-Houston was official.
Either way, I hope we get a good, experienced coach. I kind of like the guy at APP State, Shawn Clark. He builds similarly to Fritz, recruiting young men of character, building on culture and tradition. He's 34-17 as a HC in the SBC. I think he'd be able to come in and keep things going.
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(Think of Jim Mora’s rant). Nagle! NAGLE!! Don’t talk to me about NAGLE!!!!
Liam Coen returned to the University of Kentucky football program in 2023, after serving one season as the offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams in 2022-23. He returns to the Bluegrass as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, a title he also held at UK in 2021.
Under Coen in 2021, the Wildcats ranked fifth in scoring offense (32.3 points per game) and eighth in total offense (425.2 yards per game) in the Southeastern Conference, including fifth in rushing offense at 199.5 yards per game. With Coen’s guidance, quarterback Will Levis finished sixth in the SEC in passing yards with 2,826, while running back Chris Rodriguez Jr. and wide receiver Wan’Dale Robinson each finished with the second-most rushing (1,379) and receiving yards (1,334), respectively, in the SEC.
Kentucky posted a 10-3 record, including a 5-3 mark in the SEC. The Wildcats finished the 2021 regular season with a Governor’s Cup win over in-state rival Louisville, followed by edging Iowa in the Vrbo Citrus Bowl.
Before Kentucky, Coen spent three years on the Rams’ staff from 2018-20. He served as assistant wide receivers coach in 2018 and 2019 before taking on assistant quarterbacks coach in 2020, when he helped Jared Goff post his fourth-consecutive season with 3,800 or more passing yards.
In 2019, Coen helped L.A.’s receiving unit produce two receivers with over 1,000 receiving yards for the second-consecutive season, a feat that had not been accomplished since a streak of four seasons from 1999-2002. WR Robert Woods posted his second-consecutive 1,000-yard season, finishing with 1,134. WR Cooper Kupp tallied his first 1,000-yard season, leading the team with 1,161 receiving yards.
With the help of Coen, who coached in the Super Bowl his first year in the league, the Rams quickly acclimated 2018 offseason acquisition Brandin Cooks into the league’s No. 3 scoring offense. Last season, Cooks (1,204) and fellow WR Robert Woods (1,219) posted career-highs in receiving yards while becoming the first Rams receiving duo to surpass 1,000 yards each since Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce in 2006.
Coen spent the 2016-17 seasons serving as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Maine. Coen was the signal caller for Maine for two years and was instrumental in QB Dan Collins’ emergence in 2016, as well as the growth of freshman QB Chris Ferguson in 2017. Collins signed with the Buffalo Bills and eventually played for Ottawa in the Canadian Football League.
Under Coen in 2017, the Black Bears had the fourth-best scoring offense in the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA), which was spearheaded by RB Josh Mack who led the FCS in rush yards per game. Mack rushed for 1,335 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 5.5 yards per carry and 133.5 rushing yards per game during the 2017 campaign. As a unit, the Black Bears averaged 24.6 points and 388.4 total yards per game during the 2017 season, after putting up 22.3 points and 357.6 total yards per contest in 2016.
Prior to his time at Maine, Coen spent the 2014-15 season as the pass game coordinator and quarterbacks coach at his alma mater, the University of Massachusetts. He mentored First-Team All-Mid-American Conference QB Blake Frohnapfel, who signed NFL contracts with the New Orleans Saints and Indianapolis Colts.
He also served as the quarterbacks coach at Brown University in 2010 and from 2012-13 and as the pass game coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Rhode Island in 2011. During the 2010 season at Brown, Coen’s assistance on offense helped lead the Bears to the Ivy League’s top passing game, averaging 244.3 yards. His quarterback, Kyle Newhall-Caballero, eventually signed with the Oakland Raiders. In 2011 at Rhode Island, his first and second-string quarterbacks both ranked in the top 10 in the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) in total offense.
Coen is a native of Newport, Rhode Island, and his father, Tim, was a coach in college and high school. As a senior in high school, Liam was named Gatorade Player of the Year and was an All-State selection as a quarterback at La Salle Academy in Providence. He went on to an illustrious career at UMass as a four-year starter at quarterback from 2005-08. He set nearly every career UMass passing record, including most yards gained (11,031), highest passing efficiency (152.92), completion percentage (63.9), completions (830) and touchdowns (90).
In 2006 and 2007, Coen led the Minutemen to conference championships and guided UMass to a NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) national runner-up finish in ‘06. During his career, he was honored with the Harry Agganis/Harold Zimman Award as the Outstanding Senior in New England Football. A two-time Walter Payton Award candidate, he earned All-CAA Second Team honors in 2008.
Coen, 37, earned his bachelor’s degree in communications from UMass in 2008.
Following his time at UMass, Coen played quarterback with the Alabama Vipers of the Arena Football League in 2009.
He and his wife, Ashley, have one son, Jackson.
Coen’s Coaching Career:
Year Position School/NFL Team Bowl Games/Super Bowl/Playoffs
2023-Pres. Offensive Coordinator Kentucky
2022 Offensive Coordinator Los Angeles Rams
2021 Offensive Coordinator/QBs Kentucky Citrus Bowl
2016-17 Offensive Coordinator/ QBs Maine
2014-15 Pass Game Coord./QBs Coach UMass
2012-13 Quarterbacks Coach Brown
2011 Quarterbacks Coach Rhode Island
2010 Quarterbacks Coach Brown
Under Coen in 2021, the Wildcats ranked fifth in scoring offense (32.3 points per game) and eighth in total offense (425.2 yards per game) in the Southeastern Conference, including fifth in rushing offense at 199.5 yards per game. With Coen’s guidance, quarterback Will Levis finished sixth in the SEC in passing yards with 2,826, while running back Chris Rodriguez Jr. and wide receiver Wan’Dale Robinson each finished with the second-most rushing (1,379) and receiving yards (1,334), respectively, in the SEC.
Kentucky posted a 10-3 record, including a 5-3 mark in the SEC. The Wildcats finished the 2021 regular season with a Governor’s Cup win over in-state rival Louisville, followed by edging Iowa in the Vrbo Citrus Bowl.
Before Kentucky, Coen spent three years on the Rams’ staff from 2018-20. He served as assistant wide receivers coach in 2018 and 2019 before taking on assistant quarterbacks coach in 2020, when he helped Jared Goff post his fourth-consecutive season with 3,800 or more passing yards.
In 2019, Coen helped L.A.’s receiving unit produce two receivers with over 1,000 receiving yards for the second-consecutive season, a feat that had not been accomplished since a streak of four seasons from 1999-2002. WR Robert Woods posted his second-consecutive 1,000-yard season, finishing with 1,134. WR Cooper Kupp tallied his first 1,000-yard season, leading the team with 1,161 receiving yards.
With the help of Coen, who coached in the Super Bowl his first year in the league, the Rams quickly acclimated 2018 offseason acquisition Brandin Cooks into the league’s No. 3 scoring offense. Last season, Cooks (1,204) and fellow WR Robert Woods (1,219) posted career-highs in receiving yards while becoming the first Rams receiving duo to surpass 1,000 yards each since Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce in 2006.
Coen spent the 2016-17 seasons serving as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Maine. Coen was the signal caller for Maine for two years and was instrumental in QB Dan Collins’ emergence in 2016, as well as the growth of freshman QB Chris Ferguson in 2017. Collins signed with the Buffalo Bills and eventually played for Ottawa in the Canadian Football League.
Under Coen in 2017, the Black Bears had the fourth-best scoring offense in the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA), which was spearheaded by RB Josh Mack who led the FCS in rush yards per game. Mack rushed for 1,335 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 5.5 yards per carry and 133.5 rushing yards per game during the 2017 campaign. As a unit, the Black Bears averaged 24.6 points and 388.4 total yards per game during the 2017 season, after putting up 22.3 points and 357.6 total yards per contest in 2016.
Prior to his time at Maine, Coen spent the 2014-15 season as the pass game coordinator and quarterbacks coach at his alma mater, the University of Massachusetts. He mentored First-Team All-Mid-American Conference QB Blake Frohnapfel, who signed NFL contracts with the New Orleans Saints and Indianapolis Colts.
He also served as the quarterbacks coach at Brown University in 2010 and from 2012-13 and as the pass game coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Rhode Island in 2011. During the 2010 season at Brown, Coen’s assistance on offense helped lead the Bears to the Ivy League’s top passing game, averaging 244.3 yards. His quarterback, Kyle Newhall-Caballero, eventually signed with the Oakland Raiders. In 2011 at Rhode Island, his first and second-string quarterbacks both ranked in the top 10 in the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) in total offense.
Coen is a native of Newport, Rhode Island, and his father, Tim, was a coach in college and high school. As a senior in high school, Liam was named Gatorade Player of the Year and was an All-State selection as a quarterback at La Salle Academy in Providence. He went on to an illustrious career at UMass as a four-year starter at quarterback from 2005-08. He set nearly every career UMass passing record, including most yards gained (11,031), highest passing efficiency (152.92), completion percentage (63.9), completions (830) and touchdowns (90).
In 2006 and 2007, Coen led the Minutemen to conference championships and guided UMass to a NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) national runner-up finish in ‘06. During his career, he was honored with the Harry Agganis/Harold Zimman Award as the Outstanding Senior in New England Football. A two-time Walter Payton Award candidate, he earned All-CAA Second Team honors in 2008.
Coen, 37, earned his bachelor’s degree in communications from UMass in 2008.
Following his time at UMass, Coen played quarterback with the Alabama Vipers of the Arena Football League in 2009.
He and his wife, Ashley, have one son, Jackson.
Coen’s Coaching Career:
Year Position School/NFL Team Bowl Games/Super Bowl/Playoffs
2023-Pres. Offensive Coordinator Kentucky
2022 Offensive Coordinator Los Angeles Rams
2021 Offensive Coordinator/QBs Kentucky Citrus Bowl
2016-17 Offensive Coordinator/ QBs Maine
2014-15 Pass Game Coord./QBs Coach UMass
2012-13 Quarterbacks Coach Brown
2011 Quarterbacks Coach Rhode Island
2010 Quarterbacks Coach Brown
You guys seem to think we’ll just keep this thing on cruise control. We’re going to lose coaches, existing players, chance for good portal players and recruits in this change. We were already losing a really good experienced QB. Coaches who think they will be in consideration for jobs next year will IMHO, shy away from what might be a significant rebuild.
And of course, history tells us when we look at the pool of candidates, the school will take into consideration their current salaries and will lean toward going cheaper and one who might be more acceptable toward less spending on facilities. It’s been the modus operandi forever.
I am expecting this to be an underwhelming choice like most of our hires in all sports in the past including the most recent AD hire.
And of course, history tells us when we look at the pool of candidates, the school will take into consideration their current salaries and will lean toward going cheaper and one who might be more acceptable toward less spending on facilities. It’s been the modus operandi forever.
I am expecting this to be an underwhelming choice like most of our hires in all sports in the past including the most recent AD hire.
Clark is interesting. Looking at his bio though, he might actually be someone who says "Appalachian State is my dream job" and really mean it (from West Va, played at App State and now is the head coach there)!DfromCT wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:36 pmThe more I think about it, the more I agree with you, kind of anyway! I think it serves that purpose. In other words every underpaid HCs agent is asking their client if they'd be interested in the Tulane job. Most of the G5 falls into that category and we could attract some very good coaches. I just wonder if Tulane thought it through and really put it out there for that purpose?puffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:02 pmI realize that it was a middle of the week posting...which tells me this deal was long in the making and Tulane knew he was out of the door. So this leak of what they were willing to pay was to see who out there would be interested in the job once Fritz-to-Houston was official.
Either way, I hope we get a good, experienced coach. I kind of like the guy at APP State, Shawn Clark. He builds similarly to Fritz, recruiting young men of character, building on culture and tradition. He's 34-17 as a HC in the SBC. I think he'd be able to come in and keep things going.
He chose to leave an NFL OC position and return to Kentucky. He understands the balance of academics & athletics after coaching at Brown & UMass & being raised by a Father who coached for high schools and New England state football programs for most of his life.
It makes me sick looking at the list of potential coaches. Liam Coen may be just what the doctor ordered to transform Tulane’s offensive woes.
-Rich Rodriguez will be in town on Dec. 16 playing ULL in the New Orleans Bowl with his 8-4 Jacksonville St. team. Its Jacksonville's St. lst bowl ever as it transitioned to FBS. Jacksonville St. averaged over 29 points per game, and second in CUSU in rushing averaging 232 yds per game. His 4 loses were to Liberty, South Carolina (SEC), New Mexico St. (2nd in CUSA) and Coastal Carolina. Combine record of teams that beat Jacksonville st. was 34-16
-Rodriguez has a 172-121-2 overall record as a head coach and has been named conference coach of the year five times in three different leagues. He begins the 2023 season ranked eighth among active FBS head coaches in career wins and 13th among all active Division I head coaches.
-The author of one of college football's most prolific offensive schemes, Rodriguez has over 30 years of collegiate coaching experience and 25 as a head coach,
-Rodriguez's FBS head coaching jobs include stints at West Virginia (2001-07), Michigan (2008-10) and Arizona (2012-17). He led WVU to three 10-win seasons and was named the Pac-12 Coach of the Year in 2014 after leading the Wildcats to their first 10-win season in over 15 years.
-In his six seasons at Arizona, Rodriguez led the Wildcats to a 43-35 record and to five bowl games. They won the 2014 Pac-12 South Division title and advanced to the Fiesta Bowl, finishing the season with a 10-4 record, one of just three 10-win seasons in the program's history. He was named the Pac-12 Coach of the Year at season's end.
-Rodriguez was 60-26 in seven seasons at West Virginia, where he won the Big East Conference championship four times (2003, 2004, 2005 and 2007) and was named the Big East's Coach of the Year in 2003 and 2005. The Mountaineers made two appearances in the Bowl Championship Series - the 2005 Sugar Bowl with a victory over Georgia for an 11-1 record and a victory over Oklahoma in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl to finish 10-2 shortly after Rodriguez had left for Michigan.
-Before accepting the position at West Virginia, Rodriguez was Tommy Bowden's offensive coordinator and associate head coach at Clemson in 1999 and 2000, when the Tigers recorded a 15-9 record over two seasons. He went to Clemson from Tulane, where he was Bowden's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 1997 and 1998. He led the Green Wave to a 19-4 mark, including an undefeated 12-0 season, Conference USA Championship and Liberty Bowl victory in 1998.
Let's correct a wrong, not too late bring Coach Rodriguez back his qualifications are as good as any, hire him pay him well build facilities and have a large buyout if he is to leave in the lst 3 years. We can pay Coach Rod what Coach Fritz ending salary was and put the difference in what we were going to pay to keep Fritz into facilities. Rich Rodriguez’s Contract & Salary Rodriguez signed a contract extension this offseason which raised his base salary from $500,000 to $800,000 and will end after the 2028 season, according to The Anniston Star.
-Rodriguez has a 172-121-2 overall record as a head coach and has been named conference coach of the year five times in three different leagues. He begins the 2023 season ranked eighth among active FBS head coaches in career wins and 13th among all active Division I head coaches.
-The author of one of college football's most prolific offensive schemes, Rodriguez has over 30 years of collegiate coaching experience and 25 as a head coach,
-Rodriguez's FBS head coaching jobs include stints at West Virginia (2001-07), Michigan (2008-10) and Arizona (2012-17). He led WVU to three 10-win seasons and was named the Pac-12 Coach of the Year in 2014 after leading the Wildcats to their first 10-win season in over 15 years.
-In his six seasons at Arizona, Rodriguez led the Wildcats to a 43-35 record and to five bowl games. They won the 2014 Pac-12 South Division title and advanced to the Fiesta Bowl, finishing the season with a 10-4 record, one of just three 10-win seasons in the program's history. He was named the Pac-12 Coach of the Year at season's end.
-Rodriguez was 60-26 in seven seasons at West Virginia, where he won the Big East Conference championship four times (2003, 2004, 2005 and 2007) and was named the Big East's Coach of the Year in 2003 and 2005. The Mountaineers made two appearances in the Bowl Championship Series - the 2005 Sugar Bowl with a victory over Georgia for an 11-1 record and a victory over Oklahoma in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl to finish 10-2 shortly after Rodriguez had left for Michigan.
-Before accepting the position at West Virginia, Rodriguez was Tommy Bowden's offensive coordinator and associate head coach at Clemson in 1999 and 2000, when the Tigers recorded a 15-9 record over two seasons. He went to Clemson from Tulane, where he was Bowden's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 1997 and 1998. He led the Green Wave to a 19-4 mark, including an undefeated 12-0 season, Conference USA Championship and Liberty Bowl victory in 1998.
Let's correct a wrong, not too late bring Coach Rodriguez back his qualifications are as good as any, hire him pay him well build facilities and have a large buyout if he is to leave in the lst 3 years. We can pay Coach Rod what Coach Fritz ending salary was and put the difference in what we were going to pay to keep Fritz into facilities. Rich Rodriguez’s Contract & Salary Rodriguez signed a contract extension this offseason which raised his base salary from $500,000 to $800,000 and will end after the 2028 season, according to The Anniston Star.
The question is would he be interested in the job?
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Nothing new but good coverage from the Athletic.
I recognize a few posters here in the comments! Good job guys!
Tulane football coaching job pluses, minuses and candidates after Willie Fritz
https://theathletic.com/5109391/2023/12 ... ed_article
I recognize a few posters here in the comments! Good job guys!
Tulane football coaching job pluses, minuses and candidates after Willie Fritz
https://theathletic.com/5109391/2023/12 ... ed_article
Be proactive, being reactive is for losers..
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Some great candidates out there but I am still concerned that they will do something really stupid and introduce Nagle as the new coach!
And if they don't and from past experience, I bet the new coach will not be on anybodies list here or the media's suggestion of potential coaches.
And if they don't and from past experience, I bet the new coach will not be on anybodies list here or the media's suggestion of potential coaches.
Speak softly but carry a bigschtick! In Sumrall We Trust!
Yes. If so they thinking it may help to save players from going into the portal (like they thought for baseball )Bigschtick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:07 am Some great candidates out there but I am still concerned that they will do something really stupid and introduce Nagle as the new coach!
And if they don't and from past experience, I bet the new coach will not be on anybodies list here or the media's suggestion of potential coaches.
Be proactive, being reactive is for losers..
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If Nagle is named HC, I will no longer support Tulane athletics in any manner....and I will wish all GOTULA members and their Familes the best life has to offertpstulane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:09 amYes. If so they thinking it may help to save players from going into the portal (like they thought for baseball )Bigschtick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:07 am Some great candidates out there but I am still concerned that they will do something really stupid and introduce Nagle as the new coach!
And if they don't and from past experience, I bet the new coach will not be on anybodies list here or the media's suggestion of potential coaches.
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Its a good article, but he didn't have to work very hard for it. Every person on the list has ties to Louisiana or Tulane in some way. There must be others out there.tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:57 am Nothing new but good coverage from the Athletic.
I recognize a few posters here in the comments! Good job guys!
Tulane football coaching job pluses, minuses and candidates after Willie Fritz
https://theathletic.com/5109391/2023/12 ... ed_article
"That mantra is the only consistent thing that never needs to ever change for the rest of this program’s existence because that is all that matters & as long as that keeps occurring, everything will handle itself" -- Nick Anderson
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I agree 100% but Guerry says they are focusing on Sumrall and Candle of Toledo which suggests that at least they are concentrating on sitting HC's!golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:18 amIf Nagle is named HC, I will no longer support Tulane athletics in any manner....and I will wish all GOTULA members and their Familes the best life has to offertpstulane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:09 amYes. If so they thinking it may help to save players from going into the portal (like they thought for baseball )Bigschtick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:07 am Some great candidates out there but I am still concerned that they will do something really stupid and introduce Nagle as the new coach!
And if they don't and from past experience, I bet the new coach will not be on anybodies list here or the media's suggestion of potential coaches.
Speak softly but carry a bigschtick! In Sumrall We Trust!
Tulane's student body and its alumni expect Tulane to do what it takes to keep things at this level. Our president & board hopefully aren't foolish enough to believe they can get away with paying lip service & stalling on us. There is no going back now.
What is the first thing you noticed walking into Yulman on Saturday afternoon? The student section that was absolutely PACKED 30 plus minutes before kickoff, stayed until the end, and roared all night. "WE'RE A FOOTBALL SCHOOL NOW" was the T-P Saturday headline, not the sports headline, THE headline. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle now.
Tulane had better plan on spending that $4-5 million on a top flight new coaching staff and make a splash with this hire. No settling or "knowing our place" in the pecking order. The constituency demands it and is watching.
What is the first thing you noticed walking into Yulman on Saturday afternoon? The student section that was absolutely PACKED 30 plus minutes before kickoff, stayed until the end, and roared all night. "WE'RE A FOOTBALL SCHOOL NOW" was the T-P Saturday headline, not the sports headline, THE headline. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle now.
Tulane had better plan on spending that $4-5 million on a top flight new coaching staff and make a splash with this hire. No settling or "knowing our place" in the pecking order. The constituency demands it and is watching.
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Stop talking about Nagle being named HC. That is clearly not happening. It's just scaring people unnecessarily.