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Thank you for choosing to play football at Tulane. You are the most talented QB we have had in a good while. It is truly fun to watch you play. You can run and pass and play with great passion. You are a natural leader. You are currently playing with an injured throwing shoulder and an injured right knee. To those fans criticizing you I would love to see them take the physical beating you have taken since you took over the spot in game 3 of your true freshman year. and the mental toll that takes when it happens game after game behind our pathetic excuse for an offensive line. You never complain and always answer the bell. We can only hope you stay here and lead us to much better days. You deserve it and so do we diehards.

As to our offensive line our ND connections should have been used to get Harry Hiestand. Another solution is getting RR or a coach like him that knows how to scheme to overcome those talent deficiencies up front. This has been going on for over a decade now. It's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed.

As to the D I questioned the hire when it was made. He was on put staff and wasn't impressive while here and then comes back as a first time DC. Fritz failed miserably here. A move needs to be made made after the game Thursday. Have Mutz call the D.

Six years in and we still don't have a kicker and the one we signed this year is 4th or 5th string. Find a damn kicker.

There's no excuse for this debacle in year 6. There is only one team left that we can't beat in Cincy. Every other team is beatable. Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.


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winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm . Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Amazing that you’ve been following Tulane so closely for so long and still think that they’re going to operate in a “get it done or be gone” philosophy
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Profoundwizard wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:54 pm
winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm . Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Amazing that you’ve been following Tulane so closely for so long and still think that they’re going to operate in a “get it done or be gone” philosophy
Work on your reading comprehension. I said it's what should be done. Didn't say I expect it.
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Not good :

https://www.nola.com/sports/tulane/arti ... 91f6b.html

Reading between the lines of Johnson's comments we have players not putting in the time and others quitting.
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Win, I agree with your first post. This quitting and “buying in” is bizarre as it’s a very senior laden team (extra year will do that for you) With few transfers and very little attrition. So what the hell is going on ?

I also agree - something needs to change on the defensive end- wether that’s DC or a defensive coach- something needs to change.
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winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:34 pm Not good :

https://www.nola.com/sports/tulane/arti ... 91f6b.html

Reading between the lines of Johnson's comments we have players not putting in the time and others quitting.
This is what I was afraid of before the season with the high expectations and two sure losses with blowouts possible in the first three weeks. Add Hurricane Ida in and busting your butt on the football practice field is suddenly not so important anymore. With lesser talent on both lines than most of the teams we play the players cannot afford to get down, regardless of the reason.
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winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm Thank you for choosing to play football at Tulane. You are the most talented QB we have had in a good while. It is truly fun to watch you play. You can run and pass and play with great passion. You are a natural leader. You are currently playing with an injured throwing shoulder and an injured right knee. To those fans criticizing you I would love to see them take the physical beating you have taken since you took over the spot in game 3 of your true freshman year. and the mental toll that takes when it happens game after game behind our pathetic excuse for an offensive line. You never complain and always answer the bell. We can only hope you stay here and lead us to much better days. You deserve it and so do we diehards.

As to our offensive line our ND connections should have been used to get Harry Hiestand. Another solution is getting RR or a coach like him that knows how to scheme to overcome those talent deficiencies up front. This has been going on for over a decade now. It's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed.

As to the D I questioned the hire when it was made. He was on put staff and wasn't impressive while here and then comes back as a first time DC. Fritz failed miserably here. A move needs to be made made after the game Thursday. Have Mutz call the D.

Six years in and we still don't have a kicker and the one we signed this year is 4th or 5th string. Find a damn kicker.

There's no excuse for this debacle in year 6. There is only one team left that we can't beat in Cincy. Every other team is beatable. Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Stop this Pratt BS, we have 3 very good quarterbacks on the team, playing any of them hurt and less than 100% should be a no no!!!
If you go by High School records Pratt would be 3rd team. So don't diminish Ibieta and Horton by making Pratt a Saint. If he is not healthy let him get healthy so he can help the team. Its clear his arm tightens up during the game and his knee is not 100% as he rides the stationary bike and throws while the defense is on the field. He could have a short career if the coaches don't restrain his competiveness and do what's best for the team!!!
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gbgreenie wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:54 am
winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm Thank you for choosing to play football at Tulane. You are the most talented QB we have had in a good while. It is truly fun to watch you play. You can run and pass and play with great passion. You are a natural leader. You are currently playing with an injured throwing shoulder and an injured right knee. To those fans criticizing you I would love to see them take the physical beating you have taken since you took over the spot in game 3 of your true freshman year. and the mental toll that takes when it happens game after game behind our pathetic excuse for an offensive line. You never complain and always answer the bell. We can only hope you stay here and lead us to much better days. You deserve it and so do we diehards.

As to our offensive line our ND connections should have been used to get Harry Hiestand. Another solution is getting RR or a coach like him that knows how to scheme to overcome those talent deficiencies up front. This has been going on for over a decade now. It's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed.

As to the D I questioned the hire when it was made. He was on put staff and wasn't impressive while here and then comes back as a first time DC. Fritz failed miserably here. A move needs to be made made after the game Thursday. Have Mutz call the D.

Six years in and we still don't have a kicker and the one we signed this year is 4th or 5th string. Find a damn kicker.

There's no excuse for this debacle in year 6. There is only one team left that we can't beat in Cincy. Every other team is beatable. Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Stop this Pratt BS, we have 3 very good quarterbacks on the team, playing any of them hurt and less than 100% should be a no no!!!
If you go by High School records Pratt would be 3rd team. So don't diminish Ibieta and Horton by making Pratt a Saint. If he is not healthy let him get healthy so he can help the team. Its clear his arm tightens up during the game and his knee is not 100% as he rides the stationary bike and throws while the defense is on the field. He could have a short career if the coaches don't restrain his competiveness and do what's best for the team!!!
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Jaxwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:28 pm
winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:34 pm Not good :

https://www.nola.com/sports/tulane/arti ... 91f6b.html

Reading between the lines of Johnson's comments we have players not putting in the time and others quitting.
This is what I was afraid of before the season with the high expectations and two sure losses with blowouts possible in the first three weeks. Add Hurricane Ida in and busting your butt on the football practice field is suddenly not so important anymore. With lesser talent on both lines than most of the teams we play the players cannot afford to get down, regardless of the reason.
Except we didn't have 2 blowout losses . Your theory also doesn't account for guys not getting in the playbook . As to Ida they had no school to deal with so nothing but football.
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gbgreenie wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:54 am
winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm Thank you for choosing to play football at Tulane. You are the most talented QB we have had in a good while. It is truly fun to watch you play. You can run and pass and play with great passion. You are a natural leader. You are currently playing with an injured throwing shoulder and an injured right knee. To those fans criticizing you I would love to see them take the physical beating you have taken since you took over the spot in game 3 of your true freshman year. and the mental toll that takes when it happens game after game behind our pathetic excuse for an offensive line. You never complain and always answer the bell. We can only hope you stay here and lead us to much better days. You deserve it and so do we diehards.

As to our offensive line our ND connections should have been used to get Harry Hiestand. Another solution is getting RR or a coach like him that knows how to scheme to overcome those talent deficiencies up front. This has been going on for over a decade now. It's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed.

As to the D I questioned the hire when it was made. He was on put staff and wasn't impressive while here and then comes back as a first time DC. Fritz failed miserably here. A move needs to be made made after the game Thursday. Have Mutz call the D.

Six years in and we still don't have a kicker and the one we signed this year is 4th or 5th string. Find a damn kicker.

There's no excuse for this debacle in year 6. There is only one team left that we can't beat in Cincy. Every other team is beatable. Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Stop this Pratt BS, we have 3 very good quarterbacks on the team, playing any of them hurt and less than 100% should be a no no!!!
If you go by High School records Pratt would be 3rd team. So don't diminish Ibieta and Horton by making Pratt a Saint. If he is not healthy let him get healthy so he can help the team. Its clear his arm tightens up during the game and his knee is not 100% as he rides the stationary bike and throws while the defense is on the field. He could have a short career if the coaches don't restrain his competiveness and do what's best for the team!!!
Mrs. Horton you should really start following Tulane football. If you did you'd know our offensive line is so bad that in his brief time playing Ibieta hurt his arm and can't throw the ball. As to your son he hasn't been able to absorb Long's thick playbook and was a turnover machine in camp.
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winwave wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:49 am
gbgreenie wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:54 am
winwave wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:45 pm Thank you for choosing to play football at Tulane. You are the most talented QB we have had in a good while. It is truly fun to watch you play. You can run and pass and play with great passion. You are a natural leader. You are currently playing with an injured throwing shoulder and an injured right knee. To those fans criticizing you I would love to see them take the physical beating you have taken since you took over the spot in game 3 of your true freshman year. and the mental toll that takes when it happens game after game behind our pathetic excuse for an offensive line. You never complain and always answer the bell. We can only hope you stay here and lead us to much better days. You deserve it and so do we diehards.

As to our offensive line our ND connections should have been used to get Harry Hiestand. Another solution is getting RR or a coach like him that knows how to scheme to overcome those talent deficiencies up front. This has been going on for over a decade now. It's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed.

As to the D I questioned the hire when it was made. He was on put staff and wasn't impressive while here and then comes back as a first time DC. Fritz failed miserably here. A move needs to be made made after the game Thursday. Have Mutz call the D.

Six years in and we still don't have a kicker and the one we signed this year is 4th or 5th string. Find a damn kicker.

There's no excuse for this debacle in year 6. There is only one team left that we can't beat in Cincy. Every other team is beatable. Doubt we win many if any but there is no excuse. get it done or be gone.
Stop this Pratt BS, we have 3 very good quarterbacks on the team, playing any of them hurt and less than 100% should be a no no!!!
If you go by High School records Pratt would be 3rd team. So don't diminish Ibieta and Horton by making Pratt a Saint. If he is not healthy let him get healthy so he can help the team. Its clear his arm tightens up during the game and his knee is not 100% as he rides the stationary bike and throws while the defense is on the field. He could have a short career if the coaches don't restrain his competiveness and do what's best for the team!!!
Mrs. Horton you should really start following Tulane football. If you did you'd know our offensive line is so bad that in his brief time playing Ibieta hurt his arm and can't throw the ball. As to your son he hasn't been able to absorb Long's thick playbook and was a turnover machine in camp.
Mr,. who ever you are both coach Fritz and Long have heaped praise on Horton so quit spreading false information dude. If you told any truth Horton would be not heard from as a third team quarterback. Not the case!!!
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gbgreenie wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:35 am
winwave wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:49 am
gbgreenie wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:54 am

Stop this Pratt BS, we have 3 very good quarterbacks on the team, playing any of them hurt and less than 100% should be a no no!!!
If you go by High School records Pratt would be 3rd team. So don't diminish Ibieta and Horton by making Pratt a Saint. If he is not healthy let him get healthy so he can help the team. Its clear his arm tightens up during the game and his knee is not 100% as he rides the stationary bike and throws while the defense is on the field. He could have a short career if the coaches don't restrain his competiveness and do what's best for the team!!!
Mrs. Horton you should really start following Tulane football. If you did you'd know our offensive line is so bad that in his brief time playing Ibieta hurt his arm and can't throw the ball. As to your son he hasn't been able to absorb Long's thick playbook and was a turnover machine in camp.
Mr,. who ever you are both coach Fritz and Long have heaped praise on Horton so quit spreading false information dude. If you told any truth Horton would be not heard from as a third team quarterback. Not the case!!!
Mrs. Horton coaches aren't going to bad mouth a player publicly. He may be good for us down the line but as I said he hasn't been able to absorb the playbook and had turnover issues in camp. Fact is we are playing a clearly injured QB instead of him. That tells you all you need to know.
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This is all getting rather silly.
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winwave wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:49 am Fact is we are playing a clearly injured QB instead of him. That tells you all you need to know.
Sadly, this is true.
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Good post from elsewhere:

After being praised by most Tulane fans last season, Michael Pratt is being almost universally assailed over his performance this year. I certainly agree that he played very badly against Memphis, throwing numerous very poor passes including two interceptions while missing some extraordinary opportunities for big gains. Going 15 for 34 and 147 yards with only 1 TD and 2 INT’s is, according to most people, a bad passing line. Off that game, I can understand why many people are down on the young man. Sadly, he has had other games where he didn’t play very well either

But for the year, Pratt’s numbers are better than the vast majority of QB’s who wore a Tulane uniform and his stats are even slightly better than last year despite playing, what I think most would agree, a tougher schedule:

While passing, he completed 58% of his passes compared to 55% last year. He also threw for more yards (2390 to 1806) and more TD’s (21 to 20) with the same number of INT’s (8) despite throwing 75 more passes. Those are simply facts.

I remember some years back that certain people were complaining that Ryan Griffin threw too many interceptions (I guess one is too many). And I note some are saying the same thing about Pratt. But, surprisingly, Griffin has the lowest interception rate in Tulane history (2.51%) and Pratt is tied (2.74%) with J.P. Losman for 2nd place. King is next at 2.92%. As for passing efficiency (a stat I don’t particularly like) Pratt is first all time at 134.8 with King (130.4) and McKay (130.1) the closest. Pratt is also one of only three Tulane QB’s in history to throw more than twice as many TD’s and INT’s, 41 to 16 (2.56 ratio). Losman is second, 60 to 27 (2.22 ratio), and King is the third, 70 to 34 (2.06 ratio). Do I think Pratt is better than King? Actually, for his first two year, the answer is yes. But he’ll need to improve markedly to match King’s senior season. Of course, different eras, different supporting casts (particularly offensive line and receivers, which have done Pratt no favors), and different offensive schemes make comparisons between QB’s who played 20 or more years apart near impossible. That’s why, despite the facts that statistics provide, opinions can vary markedly on what they mean.

Still, I completely agree with folks who think Pratt can, should, and must improve. If he does, he’ll own the Tulane record book when he hangs ‘em up. He’s already moving up the ranks quickly off of his first two years. He potentially has three more. Good luck to the young man.
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We have much bigger problems then pratt. There is no doubt he was injured and chip long didn't do him any favors. The OL, Wrs and coaching staffs are where most of the fault should be placed. We clearly need more depth, as we didn't have any and it forced Pratt to stay in games. Competition is a good thing, 4 Scholarship QB's isnt too much to ask.
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Bicoastalwave wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:49 am We have much bigger problems then pratt. There is no doubt he was injured and chip long didn't do him any favors. The OL, Wrs and coaching staffs are where most of the fault should be placed. We clearly need more depth, as we didn't have any and it forced Pratt to stay in games. Competition is a good thing, 4 Scholarship QB's isnt too much to ask.
We have quality depth. Ibieta tore his labrum and was out for most of the year. Horton played in the Cincinnati game and hurt his throwing hand during the game, but had to keep playing. Both are quality depth, but having the top 3 QBs all injured is something that is going to severely limit even the top NCAA programs.
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anEngineer wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:19 pm
Bicoastalwave wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:49 am We have much bigger problems then pratt. There is no doubt he was injured and chip long didn't do him any favors. The OL, Wrs and coaching staffs are where most of the fault should be placed. We clearly need more depth, as we didn't have any and it forced Pratt to stay in games. Competition is a good thing, 4 Scholarship QB's isnt too much to ask.
We have quality depth. Ibieta tore his labrum and was out for most of the year. Horton played in the Cincinnati game and hurt his throwing hand during the game, but had to keep playing. Both are quality depth, but having the top 3 QBs all injured is something that is going to severely limit even the top NCAA programs.
Agree we have never been deeper at Quarterback in the History of Tulane football. Check their resumes from Rivals and 247. Gets me mad when research is not done on our recruits. We have recruited well under Fritz coaching has been the problem. Willie may need to get back to his style of play more running to give the defense breathers in the games.
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One position we’re solid at is QB. Unfortunately the injuries piled up like mad since the OL regression. Pratt is a winner and a leader if Ibieta doesn’t get hurt he’d had a chance to shine. He’s a solid QB. Horton a good 3rd. We need OL’m that can play.
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We have come a long way since the years we had Losman and Ramsey (2000-2001). Both NFL starters at one point.
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golfnut69 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:27 pm cummin' soon, Tulane's next marketing blitz... "Horton for Heisman"
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I can’t remember the last time we had an even average OL. Going forward, any play that doesn’t enable our QB to release the ball within 3 seconds is going to fail, and very likely get our QBs hurt. That’s the benchmark that has to be met going forward—there is zero reason to think we’ll have a competent OL in the foreseeable future.
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