12 Team CFP Proposal
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That format would almost guarantee the AAC champ a spot unless an undefeated G5 champ from another G5 beat a high end P5 in its out of conference play. Because that is is the case, this is acceptable even though it isn't ideal
IF that happens it is a move in the right direction for our conference.
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2020 12 team playoff may have looked like
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2020 12 team playoff may have looked like
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I would be in favor of all 10 conference champions getting in with 2 at large bids. This would make the conference championship games even more important, the top 4 get a bye and the last 3 G5 champs will more than likely be fed to three P5 teams while 2 G5's would play, guaranteeing a G5 in the final 8. I don't think there's a chance of any such format, as that would, in the eyes of the P5 powerbrokers, give away too much to the G5. But that would legitimize the championship IMHO.
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I think a 12-team playoff is silly and only serves to throw some crumbs to more teams and avoid lawsuits. Having byes for the top 4 is already a ridiculous enough advantage, but does anyone think a team out of the top 8 would ever beat a top 4 in a playoff? Unlike baseball or basketball, a football team is not going to win because of a single hot pitcher or hot shooter.
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I would like to hear your solution. Stay with the 4 teams selected by ESPN's Selection Committee?anEngineer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:07 pm I think a 12-team playoff is silly and only serves to throw some crumbs to more teams and avoid lawsuits. Having byes for the top 4 is already a ridiculous enough advantage, but does anyone think a team out of the top 8 would ever beat a top 4 in a playoff? Unlike baseball or basketball, a football team is not going to win because of a single hot pitcher or hot shooter.
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Any change that expands the field is better than the current scam.
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8 would be much more sensible than 12. Again, that final 4 are just crumbs to avoid lawsuits and risk injuries for teams 5 - 8 in a preliminary game.DfromCT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:11 pmI would like to hear your solution. Stay with the 4 teams selected by ESPN's Selection Committee?anEngineer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:07 pm I think a 12-team playoff is silly and only serves to throw some crumbs to more teams and avoid lawsuits. Having byes for the top 4 is already a ridiculous enough advantage, but does anyone think a team out of the top 8 would ever beat a top 4 in a playoff? Unlike baseball or basketball, a football team is not going to win because of a single hot pitcher or hot shooter.
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Currently there is a huge gap in the top 2-3 teams and the rest of CF. I don’t mind the top 4 getting a bye, as I believe it make first round upsets FAR more likely.
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Wait what? I think you may need to reconsider your numbers. It’s either a straight 8 team where everyone plays or a 12 team with byes.anEngineer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:51 pm8 would be much more sensible than 12. Again, that final 4 are just crumbs to avoid lawsuits and risk injuries for teams 5 - 8 in a preliminary game.DfromCT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:11 pmI would like to hear your solution. Stay with the 4 teams selected by ESPN's Selection Committee?anEngineer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:07 pm I think a 12-team playoff is silly and only serves to throw some crumbs to more teams and avoid lawsuits. Having byes for the top 4 is already a ridiculous enough advantage, but does anyone think a team out of the top 8 would ever beat a top 4 in a playoff? Unlike baseball or basketball, a football team is not going to win because of a single hot pitcher or hot shooter.
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But do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:04 amRealistically one spot, but there would be 6 at large bids, open to anyone.
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It's just 8. In the 12 team format, teams 5-8 would have to play an extra game and risk injury before they have to play a top 4 that is MUCH better than they are. I don't like the inequity either, but top 4 team will win every time, and certainly no one out of the top 8.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:02 amWait what? I think you may need to reconsider your numbers. It’s either a straight 8 team where everyone plays or a 12 team with byes.anEngineer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:51 pm8 would be much more sensible than 12. Again, that final 4 are just crumbs to avoid lawsuits and risk injuries for teams 5 - 8 in a preliminary game.
Exactly. It just gives P5’s more bids.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 amBut do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:04 amRealistically one spot, but there would be 6 at large bids, open to anyone.
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In a 12 team format, I could see guaranteed access by an undefeated G5 team that won its conference title game even if that access wasn't guaranteed by the CFP itself given how rare that it is that that occurs.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 amBut do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:04 amRealistically one spot, but there would be 6 at large bids, open to anyone.
What if you get 2 undefeated teams.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:25 amIn a 12 team format, I could see guaranteed access by an undefeated G5 team that won its conference title game even if that access wasn't guaranteed by the CFP itself given how rare that it is that that occurs.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 amBut do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:04 am
Realistically one spot, but there would be 6 at large bids, open to anyone.
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They both go and some 1 (or maybe 2) loss P5 cries bloody murder. Too bad. I also think that G5's having that exposure would attract a lot of the recruits that go to a P5 and never play, closing the divide a little bit. It would be great for the sport of college football, but that doesn't factor into the money driven minds of the P5 power brokers and Notre Dame, which has WAY too much say.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:24 amWhat if you get 2 undefeated teams.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:25 amIn a 12 team format, I could see guaranteed access by an undefeated G5 team that won its conference title game even if that access wasn't guaranteed by the CFP itself given how rare that it is that that occurs.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 am
But do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.
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where is the equality, the human rites, the humanity....hell, where are the Feds... have the power brokers no shame !!DfromCT wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:24 pmThey both go and some 1 (or maybe 2) loss P5 cries bloody murder. Too bad. I also think that G5's having that exposure would attract a lot of the recruits that go to a P5 and never play, closing the divide a little bit. It would be great for the sport of college football, but that doesn't factor into the money driven minds of the P5 power brokers and Notre Dame, which has WAY too much say.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:24 amWhat if you get 2 undefeated teams.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:25 am
In a 12 team format, I could see guaranteed access by an undefeated G5 team that won its conference title game even if that access wasn't guaranteed by the CFP itself given how rare that it is that that occurs.
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They would both be selected, but that situation would be extremely rare. That being said, there would probably be an unspoken requirement that the G5 beat a P5 (of any quality) out of conference to avoid selecting G5s with no such wins.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:24 amWhat if you get 2 undefeated teams.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:25 amIn a 12 team format, I could see guaranteed access by an undefeated G5 team that won its conference title game even if that access wasn't guaranteed by the CFP itself given how rare that it is that that occurs.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 am
But do you really think that's going to change things? You'll still see a one or two loss SEC or Big 10 team being chosen over a one loss AAC school, or even an undefeated MWC or SunBelt.
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They could care less about the G5 schools. The real reasons for this expansion are (1) to obscure the embarrassing fact that four/five teams have separated from the P5 pack, and dominate the current four NC playoff spots, and (2) to temper the angry fans from the P5 schools that routinely fall into the 5 through 10 list. Failure to calm the unrest from these 5 through 10 schools could eventually threaten the entire P5 and NC fraud. The fans from the same four/five schools, who lap at the NC trough in most years, aren't enough to quell a possible revolution.
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"The proposal calls for the bracket each year to include the six highest-ranked conference champions, plus the six highest-ranked other teams as determined by the College Football Playoff selection committee. No conference would qualify automatically and there would be no limit on the number of participants from a conference."
"The proposal calls for the bracket each year to include the six highest-ranked conference champions, plus the six highest-ranked other teams as determined by the College Football Playoff selection committee. No conference would qualify automatically and there would be no limit on the number of participants from a conference."
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