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You check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
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Hydroxychloroquine combo works in early stages not effective in late stages:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -dangerous
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Forgot about that drug. It’s not even necessary. Hardly anyone is using it. Take Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and zinc daily. If you still get sick and test positive, call your doctor who should send you steroids and antibiotics if needed. HCQ isn’t necessary and it’s fool’s gold. I haven’t used it for anyone since April and my patients have been fine.Show Me wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am Hydroxychloroquine combo works in early stages not effective in late stages:
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The American Journal of Epidemiology says otherwise. People who have a medical need to be treated can be treated early and successfully with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and antibiotics such as azithromycin or doxycycline.greenie78 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:53 amForgot about that drug. It’s not even necessary. Hardly anyone is using it. Take Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and zinc daily. If you still get sick and test positive, call your doctor who should send you steroids and antibiotics if needed. HCQ isn’t necessary and it’s fool’s gold. I haven’t used it for anyone since April and my patients have been fine.Show Me wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am Hydroxychloroquine combo works in early stages not effective in late stages:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -dangerous
Hydroxychloroquine works in high-risk patients, and saying otherwise is dangerous.
Officials worldwide Clinical Trials for Covid19 hydroychloroquine does not work and side effects are dangerous in covid19 clinical trials. Facts not talking points. Official trials with data backing conclusions!!!Show Me wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 am Hydroxychloroquine combo works in early stages not effective in late stages:
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This is classic. Liberal biased media is fake news but fox doesn’t get called. To be clear, they are all garbage, but this post above is a prime example why we can’t getHoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
anything worthwhile accomplished right now.
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We can't get anything accomplished because politically and culturally the country is hopelessly divided--all aided by politicians and the media (left and right). Fox News was a consequence of the liberal take over of the major networks. Now we have conservative and liberal outlets popping up all over satellite and cable TV, not to mention streaming services and the internet. It is very hard to believe anything anyone says--hence we're all better off making our own decisions--don't rely on, or be cowered by, what you hear on the "news".mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:12 amThis is classic. Liberal biased media is fake news but fox doesn’t get called. To be clear, they are all garbage, but this post above is a prime example why we can’t getHoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
anything worthwhile accomplished right now.
Tulane is the University of Louisiana
coming to a channel near you...'The Mike Gundy Show"HoustonWave wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:05 amWe can't get anything accomplished because politically and culturally the country is hopelessly divided--all aided by politicians and the media (left and right). Fox News was a consequence of the liberal take over of the major networks. Now we have conservative and liberal outlets popping up all over satellite and cable TV, not to mention streaming services and the internet. It is very hard to believe anything anyone says--hence we're all better off making our own decisions--don't rely on, or be cowered by, what you hear on the "news".mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:12 amThis is classic. Liberal biased media is fake news but fox doesn’t get called. To be clear, they are all garbage, but this post above is a prime example why we can’t getHoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
anything worthwhile accomplished right now.
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Mullet and all?golfnut69 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:08 amcoming to a channel near you...'The Mike Gundy Show"HoustonWave wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:05 amWe can't get anything accomplished because politically and culturally the country is hopelessly divided--all aided by politicians and the media (left and right). Fox News was a consequence of the liberal take over of the major networks. Now we have conservative and liberal outlets popping up all over satellite and cable TV, not to mention streaming services and the internet. It is very hard to believe anything anyone says--hence we're all better off making our own decisions--don't rely on, or be cowered by, what you hear on the "news".mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:12 amThis is classic. Liberal biased media is fake news but fox doesn’t get called. To be clear, they are all garbage, but this post above is a prime example why we can’t getHoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
anything worthwhile accomplished right now.
Tulane is the University of Louisiana
St. Scholastica Academy is a highly rated, private, all-girls, Catholic school located here Covington, LA. It has around 550 students in grades 8-12. They started school last week. All the students had to show a negative test before starting. Each morning temperatures are taken. They had 100% success rate initially. However this past week two 2 students had a fever and were immediately released to their parents. They both tested positive. It was determined that they acquired the virus outside of school. The school has now decided to remain open 4 days instead of 5 per week. They are going to do online on Wednesdays so that the school can now be thoroughly cleaned on every Wednesday and weekends. I’m monitoring the situation I have a friend that teaches there. Seems to be working pretty well so far.
Hopefully Tulane students have similar success.
Hopefully Tulane students have similar success.
Be proactive, being reactive is for losers..
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Just like to say that I am impressed with Coach WF and his Approach to Covid 19 protocols all in same time of working the pre seasons drills. Has to be a huge balancing act. well done. WF, TD and PMF.
Fan since 1965 and was at the 14-0 Victory over LSU. It can be done.
Is the SEC region healthy enough for college football? NCAA's coronavirus guidelines, data say no
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Very interesting article. An inhaler with the potential to protect against covid-19
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/08/41824 ... t-covid-19
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/08/41824 ... t-covid-19
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Very interesting article, Robert. By the time it gets through testing and into mass production, it will be well into 2021, but at least it's out there.RobertM320 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:00 pm Very interesting article. An inhaler with the potential to protect against covid-19
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/08/41824 ... t-covid-19
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Houston Wave no reason to check history, I am a Reaganite, that follows Conservative Politics closer than most. Fake News is a narrative brought on by Trump from get go so that his followers would ignore anything that he did not say. Identical to Hitler when he took office. Trump if you did follow history, hyjacked the Republican Party by giving Republican Chairman Priebus a job as Chief of Staff to call off the dogs Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio so he could easily win with only 39% of the Republican Primary vote. The party turned its back on the Conservatives and embraced Trump's Alt Right Democrats who would not vote for Hillary. That is fact an history I know as a Republican Party insider. We have a broad group of Conservatives that will bring Trump down along with Independents and Moderate Democrat. Most of Trump's speeches are bs and lies that his mini cult worship's. Guess you like his now interfering with the Post Office and Mail to fix the election in his favor. Well we Conservative Republican Party operatives working with Biden will bring Trump down, Kasich is speaking at the Democratic Convention for us Conservative Republicans and Biden has pledged to have Republicans represented in his Administration. Democrats chose Biden as a Moderate and told their liberals to take a back seat. It is now time to bring the nation back together just like President Reagan, "One Nation under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All" Go believe your Fake News coming from this White House!!!HoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
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So your a pathetic admitted loser like Romney and you didn’t vote for the last Republican winner Trump.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:08 pmHouston Wave no reason to check history, I am a Reaganite, that follows Conservative Politics closer than most. Fake News is a narrative brought on by Trump from get go so that his followers would ignore anything that he did not say. Identical to Hitler when he took office. Trump if you did follow history, hyjacked the Republican Party by giving Republican Chairman Priebus a job as Chief of Staff to call off the dogs Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio so he could easily win with only 39% of the Republican Primary vote. The party turned its back on the Conservatives and embraced Trump's Alt Right Democrats who would not vote for Hillary. That is fact an history I know as a Republican Party insider. We have a broad group of Conservatives that will bring Trump down along with Independents and Moderate Democrat. Most of Trump's speeches are bs and lies that his mini cult worship's. Guess you like his now interfering with the Post Office and Mail to fix the election in his favor. Well we Conservative Republican Party operatives working with Biden will bring Trump down, Kasich is speaking at the Democratic Convention for us Conservative Republicans and Biden has pledged to have Republicans represented in his Administration. Democrats chose Biden as a Moderate and told their liberals to take a back seat. It is now time to bring the nation back together just like President Reagan, "One Nation under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All" Go believe your Fake News coming from this White House!!!HoustonWave wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:42 pmYou check history gb. Bias and unobjective media creates Fake News. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of CNN, MSNBC and the major networks. They spit the bit with the Obama/Biden administration--you can ignore it but they did--completely failed to call out the numerous failings. Trump had no trouble labeling Fake News on these organizations, because they set the table in prostrating themselves to the Obama/Biden circus. As far as Fauci, he's as confused as Biden is. Fauci has been a faithful bureaucrat, I don't think he favors any political party but he's way beyond his best days. As great as you think Fauci is, I don't think he led us through the Spanish Flu--if so, he's discovered the Fountain of Youth. Ebola has never been a wide spread threat to the U.S., Aids was limited to a specific segment of the population and was not a pandemic, and the Swine Flu was a bust in 1976, and largely non-existent in 2009--largely because Trump wasn't president, so it wasn't politicized. You're overreaching in trying to legitimize Fauci.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:31 pm Really Houston Wave!!! Fake News!!! That is a dangerous narrative put forward by this Administration. Check your history books that narrative put Hitler into power!!! He was the founder of the term "Fake News" Trump was smart by getting people to believe anything against him is Fake News, it was his political strategy so people believed everything he said. If you believe the Supreme Liar in Chief over Dr. Fauci who has served every President since President Reagan appointed him as the official Health spokesperson for our nation you are brainwashed period. Dr. Fauci is non political both parties have recognized his knowledge leading the nation thru Ebola, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu and Aids. He has never steered America wrong!!! So for this Administration to attack him further sheds light. Every move this Administration makes is political for self benefit no matter who gets hurt. 160,000 that did not have to die if the experts were listened to early on.
Says it all. We get it. Thank you.
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I'm going to resist my urge to get into a political argument, but this post says it all about Show Me and his politics and respect for others.
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This thread is evidence of how violently polarized American politics has become. I remember gentler times when there was respect for differing opinions. Now there seems to be a thinly veiled, underlying threat of potential violence toward anyone who dares to disagree. I'll leave it to you critical thinkers as to what has brought us to this sorry state.
Respect is earned by truth not lies, when lies form opinion, that is where fighting starts. Opinions on facts is respected because it should be. But when someone makes a whole life of lying and diverts his lies by accusing the other side of lying, respect goes down hill and it started with the last election, That is why other countries wonder where is the old America, Not the one that mishandled the Pandemic, not the one laughed out of Europe by NATO, Not the one that has Iran once again building an Nuclear arsenal because of negating a treaty, Not the one that cozies with Putin and ignores its allies. We are not respected anymore by our allies, we are not respected at home anymore we are more divided than anytime in our history. Some of us want this to end and show we can unite once again as President Reagan united us not by hatred.GreenLantern wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:03 amThis thread is evidence of how violently polarized American politics has become. I remember gentler times when there was respect for differing opinions. Now there seems to be a thinly veiled, underlying threat of potential violence toward anyone who dares to disagree. I'll leave it to you critical thinkers as to what has brought us to this sorry state.
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I'm not sure why you're wasting your time with Show Me. This is a guy who can barely read and doesn't know the difference between your and you're. *IF* he went to TU, TU has certainly failed him.gbgreenie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:35 pmRespect is earned by truth not lies, when lies form opinion, that is where fighting starts. Opinions on facts is respected because it should be. But when someone makes a whole life of lying and diverts his lies by accusing the other side of lying, respect goes down hill and it started with the last election, That is why other countries wonder where is the old America, Not the one that mishandled the Pandemic, not the one laughed out of Europe by NATO, Not the one that has Iran once again building an Nuclear arsenal because of negating a treaty, Not the one that cozies with Putin and ignores its allies. We are not respected anymore by our allies, we are not respected at home anymore we are more divided than anytime in our history. Some of us want this to end and show we can unite once again as President Reagan united us not by hatred.GreenLantern wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:03 amThis thread is evidence of how violently polarized American politics has become. I remember gentler times when there was respect for differing opinions. Now there seems to be a thinly veiled, underlying threat of potential violence toward anyone who dares to disagree. I'll leave it to you critical thinkers as to what has brought us to this sorry state.
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This is the best synopsis of how I, once a proud card carrying Republican, am so alienated from the GOP. While I'm trying to avoid political discussions here, I have to say "thank you."gbgreenie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:35 pm Respect is earned by truth not lies, when lies form opinion, that is where fighting starts. Opinions on facts is respected because it should be. But when someone makes a whole life of lying and diverts his lies by accusing the other side of lying, respect goes down hill and it started with the last election, That is why other countries wonder where is the old America, Not the one that mishandled the Pandemic, not the one laughed out of Europe by NATO, Not the one that has Iran once again building an Nuclear arsenal because of negating a treaty, Not the one that cozies with Putin and ignores its allies. We are not respected anymore by our allies, we are not respected at home anymore we are more divided than anytime in our history. Some of us want this to end and show we can unite once again as President Reagan united us not by hatred.
Now let's try to get away from politics and divisiveness. I know ShowMe (and probably others) will want to have their say, but let's let them do so respectfully and not respond, but, rather move on.
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