Tulane Sweeps FGCU Series

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Not only did they throw 90 or more pitches but they only got through the 6th and 5th innings. Most coaches use a 75 pitch limit at this point. There's clearly still not a lot of faith in our bullpen. Hopefully they take advantage of the opportunities they get early on and we don't have to over work our starters.
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golfnut69 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:00 am
DfromCT wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:08 am Yes, on February 15th, 97 pitches is a lot. Friday's starter threw 90, which I thought was a lot as well. It's not about today, it's about April and May.
Years ago....90+ pitches early in the season seemed too much..in this day of indoor pitching facilites, "off season" strenght and conditioning programs, 10 month baseball seasons, 90= should be expected.... when U have 'pitching depth" is when "pitch counts" come into consideration....
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Mason Studstill for FGCU threw 99 pitches on Friday night for them. 4.1 innings.
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tpstulane wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:07 am Mason Studstill for FGCU threw 99 pitches on Friday night for them. 4.1 innings.
Mid season form already !!!
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mbawavefan12 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:00 am
Jaxwave wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:05 am This is what happens when a coach feels the pressure to keep his job. In first start of year his Saturday starter throws 97 pitches. No way he’ll be there at the tail end of season. Now before anybody thinks I’m anti Hewitt, I have pointed this out every year under every coach. The pitchers need to be on a pitch count early in the season or they will be toast later. We’ll check back later to see if I am right. Takes a lot of intestinal fortitude for coaches to pull guys early in year but they should understand by now the ramifications of too many pitches this early.
97 pitches is overload?
We’ll see won’t we? If staff starts to break down late in season, Jewitt might regret these extra pitches early.
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Jaxwave wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:50 am
mbawavefan12 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:00 am
Jaxwave wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:05 am This is what happens when a coach feels the pressure to keep his job. In first start of year his Saturday starter throws 97 pitches. No way he’ll be there at the tail end of season. Now before anybody thinks I’m anti Hewitt, I have pointed this out every year under every coach. The pitchers need to be on a pitch count early in the season or they will be toast later. We’ll check back later to see if I am right. Takes a lot of intestinal fortitude for coaches to pull guys early in year but they should understand by now the ramifications of too many pitches this early.
97 pitches is overload?
We’ll see won’t we? If staff starts to break down late in season, Jewitt might regret these extra pitches early.
Ahhh...the good ole days...throw nine innings and then get 3 days rest...no pitch count...no releivers, well relevers were asprin and ice, and if old enuff a Dixie Beer or 12
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Halfway to a sweep of FGCU. Need to close this out and continue to build.

I think we sneak into a regional if the bullpen holds up.
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oliveandblue wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:02 pm Halfway to a sweep of FGCU. Need to close this out and continue to build.

I think we sneak into a regional if the bullpen holds up.
And we do! Wave sweeps the series 6-1 in 8 innings due to FGCU’s travel plans.
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Nice start to the season opening with the sweep!
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OK Jewett, time for you to get to a regional and earn your check. The team is good enough to do it.
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It's a nice start, for sure. And we have to tip our caps to the team and coaching staff. Well done.

Let's put up good numbers throughout the season and host a regional. That's what Tulane's investment in baseball has been about since the turn of this century. Yes we were interrupted by Katrina in a big way, but Tulane has invested a lot into the baseball program and making a regional elsewhere should be the lowest of the low bars for this program.
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Well said D. Long way to go but let’s get back to winning baseball. We deserve it-and there were a group of students at the game that seemed to enjoy it🥃⚾️
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Dave breslin wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:17 pm Well said D. Long way to go but let’s get back to winning baseball. We deserve it-and there were a group of students at the game that seemed to enjoy it🥃⚾️
The students seemed to enjoy it a little too much Friday. After throwing beer on the FGCU relief pitchers, they were unceremoniously escorted out of the stadium
Not the image we want to present
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chain gang x man wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:45 am
Dave breslin wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:17 pm Well said D. Long way to go but let’s get back to winning baseball. We deserve it-and there were a group of students at the game that seemed to enjoy it🥃⚾️
The students seemed to enjoy it a little too much Friday. After throwing beer on the FGCU relief pitchers, they were unceremoniously escorted out of the stadium
Not the image we want to present
wanna 'send a message"....get their ID's and charge them with assault....this krap will stop
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6pm Ch 4 Sports show dedicated its entire time with a 3-4 minute feature on Tulane baseball.
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That is a lot of pitches early in the season, but not too many innings. Were they having control problems, running up the pitch count?

Any talented high school pitcher is crazy not to sign a decent pro contract , if offered. The minor league organizations do a far better job of developing future pitchers.
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HoustonWave wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:47 am That is a lot of pitches early in the season, but not too many innings. Were they having control problems, running up the pitch count?

Any talented high school pitcher is crazy not to sign a decent pro contract , if offered. The minor league organizations do a far better job of developing future pitchers.
Friday night our starter had 10 Ks in 6 innings. 16 of their 27 total outs came on strikeouts. That’s why the count was high. Not much you can do when they can’t hit it.
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tpstulane wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:10 am
HoustonWave wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:47 am That is a lot of pitches early in the season, but not too many innings. Were they having control problems, running up the pitch count?

Any talented high school pitcher is crazy not to sign a decent pro contract , if offered. The minor league organizations do a far better job of developing future pitchers.
Friday night our starter had 10 Ks in 6 innings. 16 of their 27 total outs came on strikeouts. That’s why the count was high. Not much you can do when they can’t hit it.
But they must have been fouling many pitches off, or those that did hit the ball into play must have gone deep into the pitch count. Either way, too many pitches were thrown, by the starter, for this early in the season.
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MLB pitchers, typically after 6 weeks of Spring training, are limited to 80-90 pitches in April. They learned a lesson when Billy Martin ruined an extremely talented young Oakland A's starting rotation.
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HoustonWave wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:47 am That is a lot of pitches early in the season, but not too many innings. Were they having control problems, running up the pitch count?

Any talented high school pitcher is crazy not to sign a decent pro contract , if offered. The minor league organizations do a far better job of developing future pitchers.
Depends which organizations drafts you and what college you’re going to. Some pro teams do a terrible job, like the Pirates who squandered Gerrit Cole, Charlie Morton and many others. Some colleges like Arkansas do a great job developing pitchers, which is why the Yankees interviewed their pitching coach for the same role with the Yankees Big league club and the Twins hired their previous pitching coach.

You also have to factor in the lifestyle. Minor league lifestyle is brutal. The studs like Gerrit Cole pass up 1st round money out of HS because college is just more fun and spending 1.5 years in the minors is much better than spending 4.5 years.
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Profoundwizard wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:03 pm
HoustonWave wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:47 am That is a lot of pitches early in the season, but not too many innings. Were they having control problems, running up the pitch count?

Any talented high school pitcher is crazy not to sign a decent pro contract , if offered. The minor league organizations do a far better job of developing future pitchers.
Depends which organizations drafts you and what college you’re going to. Some pro teams do a terrible job, like the Pirates who squandered Gerrit Cole, Charlie Morton and many others. Some colleges like Arkansas do a great job developing pitchers, which is why the Yankees interviewed their pitching coach for the same role with the Yankees Big league club and the Twins hired their previous pitching coach.

You also have to factor in the lifestyle. Minor league lifestyle is brutal. The studs like Gerrit Cole pass up 1st round money out of HS because college is just more fun and spending 1.5 years in the minors is much better than spending 4.5 years.
There are always exceptions to the rule, but generally it’s no contest between which path does a better job developing pitchers—not so clear when it comes to position players. It’s too bad that the Pirates squandered Cole and Morton, cuz they are both having outstanding careers, and certainly weren't permanently damaged by whatever the Pirates did wrong.
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Do you turn down a $500k to multi million dollar bonus to go to a college program, where, at best, you'll play against low single A minor league level competition??????? Especially if you don't have a FULL scholarship and your family isn't wealthy?
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DfromCT wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:49 pm Do you turn down a $500k to multi million dollar bonus to go to a college program, where, at best, you'll play against low single A minor league level competition??????? Especially if you don't have a FULL scholarship and your family isn't wealthy?
And many pro contracts now include clauses giving the player full tuition, to any college, up to ten years after their pro playing days are over. It's extremely hard for the college programs to compete with that.
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