Re: Fritz talks with other schools about jobs near NSD- did it hurt recruiting?

[wave97]

Coach Hall,
Please hire Lionel Washington as your DC.

[HoustonWave]

Willie not getting a lot of warm fuzzies from the Arkansas and Mizzou fan base.

[DfromCT]

If Fritz is truly trying to get out, fine. It would tell me he was doing so when he kept telling everyone that Tulane would compete for an AAC Title this year. Well we were far from that happening. He should be careful, as he's not really built a resume that would warrant a better job. I hope he stays, and finishes what he started, but if he's dying to get out of New Orleans and land the job that triples his salary, I cannot blame him.

Nobody is irreplaceable including the AD. If they want to leave, and get better job offers based on modestly mediocre results, that should help us attract better candidates to replace them.

[HoustonWave]

Willie has shown his hand. If he doesn't get hired away in the next month, it could be a pretty awkward twelve months coming up. Jewett redux.

[NOLABigSteve]

Steve- Please reverse the order of what appears here as the OP by me and then your post. I get that you created a new thread here by taking post from another thread and time stamp shows my post being first but it was made in response to your post that appears second here. It would help make better sense of the beginning here. Not sure how that time stamp thing happened. Thanks.

It's funky I know, but when threads are merged, the forum order posts by timestamp. Instead of breaking off both my and your posts, I merged your post into the new thread. I'll play around with it later tonight in the database and see if I can get the order reversed.

[sader24]

He’s done a “nice” job here so far, but he was supposed to take a big step forward this year and he took a small step back. That being said, he’d be crazy not to talk to SEC schools about a job opening. His salary would double at a minimum. If I were a fan at either school knowing what I know and seeing what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be upset if we hired him. He hasn’t done anything here yet to say big time. However, he may think we have less talent going forward than we’ve been sold and might be looking at 6-6 with back to back bowls as the best he can do in the near future. If he comes back and goes 4-8 next year not only will he not be gettting looks from bigger schools but he’ll be on the hot seat here. I for one am not upset that he’s interviewing though, I would do the same thing in his situation as would every single one of you if you were offered a job in your field that would double your salary and give you a ton of more resources to do your job. You would at the very least take the interview. That’s just common sense.

[winwave]

Steve- Please reverse the order of what appears here as the OP by me and then your post. I get that you created a new thread here by taking post from another thread and time stamp shows my post being first but it was made in response to your post that appears second here. It would help make better sense of the beginning here. Not sure how that time stamp thing happened. Thanks.

It's funky I know, but when threads are merged, the forum order posts by timestamp. Instead of breaking off both my and your posts, I merged your post into the new thread. I'll play around with it later tonight in the database and see if I can get the order reversed.

Thanks. What's confusing is the time stamp thing because your post was clearly made before mine. Maybe because you're a mod the time stamp on yours changed when you made the merge. Just a guess.

[Wave755]

If Fritz is truly trying to get out, fine. It would tell me he was doing so when he kept telling everyone that Tulane would compete for an AAC Title this year. Well we were far from that happening. He should be careful, as he's not really built a resume that would warrant a better job. I hope he stays, and finishes what he started, but if he's dying to get out of New Orleans and land the job that triples his salary, I cannot blame him.

Nobody is irreplaceable including the AD. If they want to leave, and get better job offers based on modestly mediocre results, that should help us attract better candidates to replace them.

If he leaves we will have no trouble find a quality replacement. We now pay a competitive salary for AAC coaches and play by the same rules as everyone else for Div. 1 football. The Eamon Kelly "Tulane Model" is no more. The days of hiring a Scelfo for 350k a year or "Buffet" Bob Toledo for 450k a year and under the restrictions of the "Tulane Model" are gone for good.

And, say what you will about Fritz, but he has been a vast improvement over "Buffet" Bob & CJ.

[oliveandblue]

Silently talking to the SEC tells me you're savvy.

Advertising it tells me you're fucking done.

Best wishes to Fritz. Let him go, and find a guy who can keep us bowl eligible.

[WavyHoops]

Something happened around that Memphis game. Neither Fritz nor the rest of the team were 100% thereafter.

He’s 60 and looking for an SEC job and a huge paycheck to cap his career. Can anyone blame him?

[Bigschtick]

He's been here 4 years, and hasn't achieved any W-L success comparable to any of his prior coaching stints. Any decent offer and he's gone.

I say good riddance. He is no big deal. We are probably losing some recruits anyway. Tulane should not pay a dime more.

[TURVS71]

Let’s face it...this coaching carousel
will continue until if and when we become P5....Period!

[wave97]

Silently talking to the SEC tells me you're savvy.

Advertising it tells me you're fucking done.

Best wishes to Fritz. Let him go, and find a guy who can keep us bowl eligible.

+1000

[golfnut69]

from Arkansas... I have run out of "free looks"...so give a recap
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2019/dec ... ch-201912/

[golfnut69]

from Mizzou
https://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/ ... ing-search

[Wave755]

If a Mizzou fan were to ask me, "what kind of offense does Fritz run?, "after 4 years of watching this team I would reply, "damned if I know?"

And, if Fritz were to take the MIzzou job, how ironic, he would be going in the same year Lindsey Scott went out. Damn, if that Lindsey Scott were only as elusive on the field!

[MicMan]

Can Tulane f-cking fire him now? Please?

[Pepper]

He’s done a “nice” job here so far, but he was supposed to take a big step forward this year and he took a small step back. That being said, he’d be crazy not to talk to SEC schools about a job opening. His salary would double at a minimum. If I were a fan at either school knowing what I know and seeing what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be upset if we hired him. He hasn’t done anything here yet to say big time. However, he may think we have less talent going forward than we’ve been sold and might be looking at 6-6 with back to back bowls as the best he can do in the near future. If he comes back and goes 4-8 next year not only will he not be gettting looks from bigger schools but he’ll be on the hot seat here. I for one am not upset that he’s interviewing though, I would do the same thing in his situation as would every single one of you if you were offered a job in your field that would double your salary and give you a ton of more resources to do your job. You would at the very least take the interview. That’s just common sense.

I agree with Sader. I am happy our coaches are being considered for bigger programs. It tells me he was a solid choice when we hired him and I like the direction the program is going. If he does go, Will Hall has shown enough for me to promote him. Give the guy a decent OL & QB and I think we can be even better.

[winwave]

Silently talking to the SEC tells me you're savvy.

Advertising it tells me you're fucking done.

Best wishes to Fritz. Let him go, and find a guy who can keep us bowl eligible.

+1000

Find us a guy who can win conference championships and NY6 Bowls.

[winwave]

He’s done a “nice” job here so far, but he was supposed to take a big step forward this year and he took a small step back. That being said, he’d be crazy not to talk to SEC schools about a job opening. His salary would double at a minimum. If I were a fan at either school knowing what I know and seeing what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be upset if we hired him. He hasn’t done anything here yet to say big time. However, he may think we have less talent going forward than we’ve been sold and might be looking at 6-6 with back to back bowls as the best he can do in the near future. If he comes back and goes 4-8 next year not only will he not be gettting looks from bigger schools but he’ll be on the hot seat here. I for one am not upset that he’s interviewing though, I would do the same thing in his situation as would every single one of you if you were offered a job in your field that would double your salary and give you a ton of more resources to do your job. You would at the very least take the interview. That’s just common sense.

No one is saying he shouldn't be looking . The only thing being questioned is the leaking of it. Sure he and his agent don't have total control of that but most suspect that's where it's coming from.

[WavyHoops]

It’s a funny dynamic - If Tulane had beaten Temple and Navy and gone 8-4 Fritz would definitely be out the door and folks here would be much more upset.

Instead he may or may not go and folks are concerned about transition and recruiting but not all that broken up about it.

It’s all very luke warm.

[wave97]

He’s done a “nice” job here so far, but he was supposed to take a big step forward this year and he took a small step back. That being said, he’d be crazy not to talk to SEC schools about a job opening. His salary would double at a minimum. If I were a fan at either school knowing what I know and seeing what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be upset if we hired him. He hasn’t done anything here yet to say big time. However, he may think we have less talent going forward than we’ve been sold and might be looking at 6-6 with back to back bowls as the best he can do in the near future. If he comes back and goes 4-8 next year not only will he not be gettting looks from bigger schools but he’ll be on the hot seat here. I for one am not upset that he’s interviewing though, I would do the same thing in his situation as would every single one of you if you were offered a job in your field that would double your salary and give you a ton of more resources to do your job. You would at the very least take the interview. That’s just common sense.

I agree with Sader. I am happy our coaches are being considered for bigger programs. It tells me he was a solid choice when we hired him and I like the direction the program is going. If he does go, Will Hall has shown enough for me to promote him. Give the guy a decent OL & QB and I think we can be even better.

Would love to see Hall get the job. Hire a defensive coordinator who can hire assistants that can recruit & develop players. Not a whole lot of that going on with Willie's staff.

[MicMan]

When will the Yulman expansion be announced?! Can't wait!

[DrBox]

No one is saying he shouldn't be looking . The only thing being questioned is the leaking of it. Sure he and his agent don't have total control of that but most suspect that's where it's coming from.

Why would he do that though? Not saying you're wrong, but once you start affirmatively looking, you've made your play and you're tainted at your original school, especially if it gets out publicly.
Heck if he really is looking, I don't hold it against him as it's a reasonable decision. But if he has, he's made his play and I don't want him back.

[TURVS71]

It’s kind of like a recruit “committing” then still visiting other schools....