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Coaches who may make a move to a different zip code in 2020
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We definitely want our coach on that list. If he’s not it means we still suck.
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Hahah, galvez that’s a good point.

We did give fritz an extension last year. Also when the Kansas jobs were filled that helped avert the most obvious choices. This will become a major talking point as soon as we beat Memphis/army/auburn/UCF or win 7 games.
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Winning 7 games won't get Fritz hired away. 9 would make him a target.
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DfromCT wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:37 pm Winning 7 games won't get Fritz hired away. 9 would make him a target.
I agree, but at 7 (+) wins (or any of those wins I mentioned) it will become a talking point and hot topic of conversation.
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Didn't someone do a write up recently how all the low to mid tier Big12/SEC jobs will be filled until at least 2021.....meaning unless we go undefeated Willie aint going nowhere! :mrgreen:
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Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life? If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.
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HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life? If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.
I think the answer to that question will come with our wins and losses this year. Win 8 games and maybe Tulane steps up to the plate and makes him a $2 million offer with a HUGE buyout should he get recruited to go to a P5. Most of us think the program is taking a step forward, but he needs to show that is the case. If they get off to a magical start, Dannen may be forced to lock him in with a mid-season raise/extension. But the key would be to make the buyout ridiculous.

We'd love to have Willie be Tulane's version of K-State's Bill Snyder. But we're not there yet. We all THINK we're headed there, but lets wait for results to prove us out.
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HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life? If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.
That is exactly what he did with us ....
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HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life
"At this point in life," if he loves his family at all, he needs to bank as much money as possible. He's got a very limited window to earn and he spent the first thirty-or-so years of his career working for chicken feed.
HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.

Indeed it will.
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HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life? If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.
The moment of truth will be how Dannen responds should we lose the coach. Does he do what Wall, Eamon Kelly, and Barbour/Cowen did and hire the next Gibson, Davis or Scelfo (or in another sport Danforth or Finney)? Or does he break the trend and finally get it right?
Because hiring the successor to a successful head coach is where Tulane has a 100% screw-up rate.
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DrBox wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:32 pm
HoustonWave wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm Would Willie really want to go to a “disadvantaged” P5 program at this point in his life? If some P5s come sniffing around, after we’ve had a superb 2019 season, it will be the moment of truth for Tulane athletics. Fitts, Hertz, Dannen, and many Tulane alums and fans—do we write the check or not? Are we really in, or not? It will tell the tale.
The moment of truth will be how Dannen responds should we lose the coach. Does he do what Wall, Eamon Kelly, and Barbour/Cowen did and hire the next Gibson, Davis or Scelfo (or in another sport Danforth or Finney)? Or does he break the trend and finally get it right?
Because hiring the successor to a successful head coach is where Tulane has a 100% screw-up rate.
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Ruski wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:21 pm Didn't someone do a write up recently how all the low to mid tier Big12/SEC jobs will be filled until at least 2021.....meaning unless we go undefeated Willie aint going nowhere! :mrgreen:
The only jobs that may open in the Big 12 (?) will be Baylor and Iowa State...The Baylor Coach may be headed to the NFL or the Big10 and the Iowa State coach is in line for a much better gig...
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Can’t we just be excited and look forward to another season without worrying or even discussing Fritz leaving Tulane!
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Bigschtick wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:37 pm Can’t we just be excited and look forward to another season without worrying or even discussing Fritz leaving Tulane!
ABSOLUTELY! Great post!

Last year we had threads that discussed firing Fritz and losing him to a P5 team within the same season!

If Fritz is getting recruited to a P5 job, it means we've had a great season. Let's have a great season and worry about keeping our coach after enjoying a great season. I'd love to see us win 9 or 10 or more and have to deal with that problem at that time.
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Get off the computer and get a life .
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Bigschtick wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:37 pm Can’t we just be excited and look forward to another season without worrying or even discussing Fritz leaving Tulane!
Not on this site. There are the 4-5 regular doom and gloomers who can make a loss out of any win.
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I believe Fritz is very happy at Tulane and it would take an incredible offer for him to leave. I do not want to lose him but if at some point he decides to leave we could easily poach successful head coaches in conferences like C-USA or the Sun Belt. With the new AAC tv contract there is a clear seperation between the AAC and the rest of the G5 conferences in prestige and what we can afford to pay our coaches. Obviously we cannot pay our coaches P5 money because we do not receive a P5 conference paycheck or have a Tillman Fertitta as our sugar daddy like Houston. Plus with the the success of Fritz and the increased support that Tulane has put into the football program this becomes a much more attractive job than in the past.
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There are plenty of sugardaddy candidates but we have been so bad they stay away from getting too involved. Glazers being a great example. They help out at a high level, but there’s no ego attached (what you need for a sports sugar daddy).
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The new ESPN contract looks great on paper. But it also forces the home team to absorb all costs of production for every home game. That could significantly reduce any profit margin for not only football, but basketball and baseball as well. The numbers look nice until you take into account the cost of production for EVERY home game.
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Yeah Aresco and all the members of our conference are so stupid they missed that in the negotiations. Oh the horror. Every school is going to go broke and have to give up sports. The rest of us idiots here are going to enjoy our clear separation from the rest of the G's. Carry on.
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winwave wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:36 pm Yeah Aresco and all the members of our conference are so stupid they missed that in the negotiations. Oh the horror. Every school is going to go broke and have to give up sports. The rest of us idiots here are going to enjoy our clear separation from the rest of the G's. Carry on.
Aresco has a thousand times more experience than all of us combined. That wasn't my point. My point was that we're getting less after production costs than simply dividing the number of years and organizations to split the revenue. Which makes it even further from anything the P5 conference members are receiving.

In other words, our net revenue from the deal will be WAY below $5 million/year.
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It won't be way below because of this. You're way overstating it. Our contract sets us apart. It's ok to be happy about how it turned out. It really is. Relax and enjoy.
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winwave wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:20 am It won't be way below because of this. You're way overstating it. Our contract sets us apart. It's ok to be happy about how it turned out. It really is. Relax and enjoy.
So, how much do you KNOW it costs to produce 6-7 football games, 15 or so basketball games (30 if we include women's basketball) and 30 baseball games? All production expenses are on the home team.

I'm not saying we didn't significantly improve the revenue from TV. I'm simply pointing out that the contract calls on the home team to absorb all production costs with ESPN having little to zero costs. Read the contract. Relax and learn a thing or two.
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The start up cost will be a one time thing. After that it won't be much. We already do our production for all-access. So sit back and enjoy the season we are all so looking forward to.
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