Re: Superdome / Benson Revenue
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:50 am
I could care less on where we play. It was fun when we were competitive and miserable when we were crappy. Hopefully, I can emphasize “when” we were crappy after this season
Mista' Dave...Amen to thatDave breslin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:50 am I could care less on where we play. It was fun when we were competitive and miserable when we were crappy. Hopefully, I can emphasize “when” we were crappy after this season
who the hell gives the Eagles the right to ask for anything...The City of Brotherly Love, owns the dumpwave97 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:18 pm The Dome was never the problem for Tulane Football.
FYI, here is what Temple pays to rent Lincoln Financial Field.
Currently, the school pays $1 million a year to use the stadium (166,666 per game 6 home games). For a new 30-year lease, the Eagles are asking for $2 million a year plus $12 million up front(333,333.00 per game 6 home games).
http://www.phillyvoice.com/temple-footb ... ough-2018/
Jeffrey Lurie and the Eagles were given the right to sublet the stadium as they see fit. The City of Philadelphia & State of Pennsylvania hack politicians in plain sight caved to the Eagles extortion (and got re-elected!).golfnut69 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:10 pmwho the hell gives the Eagles the right to ask for anything...The City of Brotherly Love, owns the dumpwave97 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:18 pm The Dome was never the problem for Tulane Football.
FYI, here is what Temple pays to rent Lincoln Financial Field.
Currently, the school pays $1 million a year to use the stadium (166,666 per game 6 home games). For a new 30-year lease, the Eagles are asking for $2 million a year plus $12 million up front(333,333.00 per game 6 home games).
http://www.phillyvoice.com/temple-footb ... ough-2018/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Financial_Field
What the hell !!!!... A stadium built with public funds is being held hostage by a private company ?.. A public university wants to use the stadium for their games and this POS dictates terms...are the people of Pennsylvania that f#@king stupid ?...i can see if there was a convention or some type of private event...but for a public school to use a publicly funded facility and the eagles get to dictate terms, the elected officials from Louisiana must have been consulted prior to the agreement being signed !!!!...I don't watch the NFL, nor do I buy any NFL merchandise, but this is crazy...I mean where are the Eagles going to relocate to, ..Albuqrerque ?wave97 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:14 pmJeffrey Lurie and the Eagles were given the right to sublet the stadium as they see fit. The City of Philadelphia & State of Pennsylvania hack politicians in plain sight caved to the Eagles extortion (and got re-elected!).golfnut69 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:10 pmwho the hell gives the Eagles the right to ask for anything...The City of Brotherly Love, owns the dumpwave97 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:18 pm The Dome was never the problem for Tulane Football.
FYI, here is what Temple pays to rent Lincoln Financial Field.
Currently, the school pays $1 million a year to use the stadium (166,666 per game 6 home games). For a new 30-year lease, the Eagles are asking for $2 million a year plus $12 million up front(333,333.00 per game 6 home games).
http://www.phillyvoice.com/temple-footb ... ough-2018/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Financial_Field
The only franchise owner who I know of, who never received a public nickel for any of his sports venues was Ed Snider, owner Philadelphia Flyers. He founded the Flyers and Spectacor and merged with Comcast and they ultimately purchased NBC Universal. I could tell you stories about the behind the scenes generosity of Ed Snider that would bring tears to your eyes. His former players to a man would do everything but kill for him.
He was the definition of the word Mensch, sadly he died two years ago.
I thought there were more state funded concessions more recently than when Benson purchased the Saints. Again, I could be wrong, but I thought he got some sweat heart deal around the aftermath of Katrina?golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:48 pm The concessions are what they are...but back in the day when ole Tom was buying the Saints, he did no thave enuff cash, or the ability to get the $$$...guess who gave him almost 30 million to complete the sale, the State of Louisiana ..when Mecom was selling the team, there were buyers, who were going to relocate the team to JaxVille or Phoenix...the State made a proposal to the NFL that they would buy the Saints and it would be run like the Green Bay Packers, the only other NFL team that is citizen/taxpayer owned..the NFL, seeing the political "football" this could become told them Hell no..upstepped exNOLA Citizen by way of San Antonio Tom Benson ..the rest is Katrina history
I may be mistaken, but I think all of the incentives/concessions that were made after the Katrina threat of moving to San Antonio are all that is left of any agreement. However, the intital $$$'s given to actually buy the Saints, as I understand, has not been repaid...but then again, it's only money, and tax payer money at that, no body is asking for it back. .besides, what's 30 million between friends ...DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:31 pmI thought there were more state funded concessions more recently than when Benson purchased the Saints. Again, I could be wrong, but I thought he got some sweat heart deal around the aftermath of Katrina?golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:48 pm The concessions are what they are...but back in the day when ole Tom was buying the Saints, he did no thave enuff cash, or the ability to get the $$$...guess who gave him almost 30 million to complete the sale, the State of Louisiana ..when Mecom was selling the team, there were buyers, who were going to relocate the team to JaxVille or Phoenix...the State made a proposal to the NFL that they would buy the Saints and it would be run like the Green Bay Packers, the only other NFL team that is citizen/taxpayer owned..the NFL, seeing the political "football" this could become told them Hell no..upstepped exNOLA Citizen by way of San Antonio Tom Benson ..the rest is Katrina history
That was what my memory had, but then again, I'm viewing from afar, and it's not my tax dollars. I thought there was one agreement when he bought the team that was never repaid, and another when they threatened to move to San Antonio. Now they're getting 2/3 of the refurbishment costs funded by taxpayers. Meanwhile the public schools of Louisiana are horrible and desperately need better funding. And most other NFL teams are building their own stadiums without public tax dollar assistance.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:06 pm I may be mistaken, but I think all of the incentives/concessions that were made after the Katrina threat of moving to San Antonio are all that is left of any agreement. However, the intital $$$'s given to actually buy the Saints, as I understand, has not been repaid...but then again, it's only money, and tax payer money at that, no body is asking for it back. .besides, what's 30 million between friends ...
I'm not defending any of this; however, while the Louisiana public schools are generally poor, more funding would not necessarily make them much better. The bar has to be set low or too many could never get through.DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:56 pmThat was what my memory had, but then again, I'm viewing from afar, and it's not my tax dollars. I thought there was one agreement when he bought the team that was never repaid, and another when they threatened to move to San Antonio. Now they're getting 2/3 of the refurbishment costs funded by taxpayers. Meanwhile the public schools of Louisiana are horrible and desperately need better funding. And most other NFL teams are building their own stadiums without public tax dollar assistance.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:06 pm I may be mistaken, but I think all of the incentives/concessions that were made after the Katrina threat of moving to San Antonio are all that is left of any agreement. However, the intital $$$'s given to actually buy the Saints, as I understand, has not been repaid...but then again, it's only money, and tax payer money at that, no body is asking for it back. .besides, what's 30 million between friends ...
got it..have zero expectations, and U will never be disappointed.....anEngineer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:55 pmI'm not defending any of this; however, while the Louisiana public schools are generally poor, more funding would not necessarily make them much better. The bar has to be set low or too many could never get through.DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:56 pmThat was what my memory had, but then again, I'm viewing from afar, and it's not my tax dollars. I thought there was one agreement when he bought the team that was never repaid, and another when they threatened to move to San Antonio. Now they're getting 2/3 of the refurbishment costs funded by taxpayers. Meanwhile the public schools of Louisiana are horrible and desperately need better funding. And most other NFL teams are building their own stadiums without public tax dollar assistance.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:06 pm I may be mistaken, but I think all of the incentives/concessions that were made after the Katrina threat of moving to San Antonio are all that is left of any agreement. However, the intital $$$'s given to actually buy the Saints, as I understand, has not been repaid...but then again, it's only money, and tax payer money at that, no body is asking for it back. .besides, what's 30 million between friends ...
anEngineer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:55 pmI'm not defending any of this; however, while the Louisiana public schools are generally poor, more funding would not necessarily make them much better. The bar has to be set low or too many could never get through.DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:56 pmThat was what my memory had, but then again, I'm viewing from afar, and it's not my tax dollars. I thought there was one agreement when he bought the team that was never repaid, and another when they threatened to move to San Antonio. Now they're getting 2/3 of the refurbishment costs funded by taxpayers. Meanwhile the public schools of Louisiana are horrible and desperately need better funding. And most other NFL teams are building their own stadiums without public tax dollar assistance.golfnut69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:06 pm I may be mistaken, but I think all of the incentives/concessions that were made after the Katrina threat of moving to San Antonio are all that is left of any agreement. However, the intital $$$'s given to actually buy the Saints, as I understand, has not been repaid...but then again, it's only money, and tax payer money at that, no body is asking for it back. .besides, what's 30 million between friends ...
How about Dallas, or MetLife Stadium in NJ etc? Not a penny of public funding went into those state of the art stadiums.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:06 am 1) Most nfl teams are not self funding their stadium, the Rams are an outlier
2) More funding, even wasteful, would not make LA schools better? What type of statement is that? Legit one of the most absurd comments.
Outside these ridiculous comments, Lurie (Eagles owner) is scum. Pitt, Tampa and Miami have all made it work, understanding that the local university is integral to the given city’s health. We had they same relationship with the dome.
Glad u asked. Let’s go:DfromCT wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:37 amHow about Dallas, or MetLife Stadium in NJ etc? Not a penny of public funding went into those state of the art stadiums.mbawavefan12 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:06 am 1) Most nfl teams are not self funding their stadium, the Rams are an outlier
2) More funding, even wasteful, would not make LA schools better? What type of statement is that? Legit one of the most absurd comments.
Outside these ridiculous comments, Lurie (Eagles owner) is scum. Pitt, Tampa and Miami have all made it work, understanding that the local university is integral to the given city’s health. We had they same relationship with the dome.
Are u forgetting about Benson Tower? Taxpayers were once again screwed to the needs of a billionaire.winwave wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:17 pm The Benson's do not practically own the Dome. They get all revenue on Saints game days. That's it. They also don't have anything to do with us practicing in the Dome. The Dome wants us to practice there because part of the last deal with the Saints is that a new turf gets put down every season. Those fields need to be played on to smooth things out. There was a good deal of slipping and sliding at the game Friday.. They also don't owe anything due to the deal you referenced. Those things were done to keep the team here and keep it in the mix for NC games in football and basketball.
one thing for sure...after the next Hurricane, I am going to check the State's web site and see if they are giving away buildings, that I can lease back to the State for twice the normal rent
The Benson Tower deal is intertwined with the Saints deal with the publicly owned Dome. It’s just shifting the money from one similarly owned entity to another for PR purposes.