“Tulane” Ave now on the list of name changes

[golfnut69]

Guys it is secede not succeed.

win...thanks...so much for spell check....have to admit, I did not re-read my post, so I am sure there are several where secede should have been used...

[golfnut69]

Guys it is secede not succeed.

It isn't even pronounced the same!

nothing like "herd" or "heard"....cue Marvin Gay...he herd / heard it thru the grapevine ... all in the name of immunity

[mbawavefan12]

10 reasons for the Civil War.
http://www.ushist.com/general-informati ... ates.shtml
Slavery is mentioned as #9 but indirectly. Tariffs top reason.

TARIFF
Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to them. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 eras (between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.

Ah go fuck off. I freakin love the folks who say it wasn’t ultimately about the right to protect their economic value to enslave human beings. It’s so cute.
Keep up the fight!!

FWI, the internet article you referenced is an assault on human intelligence.

Indirectly slavery was a cause of the war. Most Southerners did not own slaves and would not have fought for the protection of slavery. However they believed that the North had no Constitutional right to free slaves held by citizens of Sovereign Southern States. Prior to the war there were five times as many abolition societies in the South as in the North. Virtually all educated Southerners were in favor of gradual emancipation of slaves. Gradual emancipation would have allowed the economy and labor system of the South to gradually adjust to a free paid labor system without economic collapse. Furthermore, since the New England States were responsible for the development of slavery in America, Southerners saw the morality claims by the North as blatant hypocrisy.

Clearly it was about economic freedom.

Gradually free SLAVES? Didn’t have the right to free human beings from slavery? Your articles are a total embarrassment. Get fucked.

After their great war to protect economic freedom, this happened.

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

It’s history not my fault. No need to use that foul language with a personal attack thank you.

Right here in New Orleans...
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

Go fuck yourself.








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[ajcalhoun]

[swampnik]

10 reasons for the Civil War.
http://www.ushist.com/general-informati ... ates.shtml
Slavery is mentioned as #9 but indirectly. Tariffs top reason.

TARIFF
Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to them. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 eras (between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.

Ah go fuck off. I freakin love the folks who say it wasn’t ultimately about the right to protect their economic value to enslave human beings. It’s so cute.
Keep up the fight!!

FWI, the internet article you referenced is an assault on human intelligence.

Indirectly slavery was a cause of the war. Most Southerners did not own slaves and would not have fought for the protection of slavery. However they believed that the North had no Constitutional right to free slaves held by citizens of Sovereign Southern States. Prior to the war there were five times as many abolition societies in the South as in the North. Virtually all educated Southerners were in favor of gradual emancipation of slaves. Gradual emancipation would have allowed the economy and labor system of the South to gradually adjust to a free paid labor system without economic collapse. Furthermore, since the New England States were responsible for the development of slavery in America, Southerners saw the morality claims by the North as blatant hypocrisy.

Clearly it was about economic freedom.

Gradually free SLAVES? Didn’t have the right to free human beings from slavery? Your articles are a total embarrassment. Get fucked.

After their great war to protect economic freedom, this happened.

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

It’s history not my fault. No need to use that foul language with a personal attack thank you.

Right here in New Orleans...
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

The Italians being executed incident was displayed at the old Museé Conti Wax Museum in FQ. This historical,event almost brought the Italian Govt. to wage war against New Orleans.

[swampnik]

10 reasons for the Civil War.
http://www.ushist.com/general-informati ... ates.shtml
Slavery is mentioned as #9 but indirectly. Tariffs top reason.

TARIFF
Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to them. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 eras (between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.

We lost the conflict, the truth will never be known now.
-Robert E. Lee (paraphrased)

For me, that means slavery was the catalyst but not the cause in Lee's eyes and he lamented the fact that the North would write the account from their perspective.

[Wave755]

10 reasons for the Civil War.
http://www.ushist.com/general-informati ... ates.shtml
Slavery is mentioned as #9 but indirectly. Tariffs top reason.

TARIFF
Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to them. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 eras (between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.

Ah go fuck off. I freakin love the folks who say it wasn’t ultimately about the right to protect their economic value to enslave human beings. It’s so cute.
Keep up the fight!!

FWI, the internet article you referenced is an assault on human intelligence.

Indirectly slavery was a cause of the war. Most Southerners did not own slaves and would not have fought for the protection of slavery. However they believed that the North had no Constitutional right to free slaves held by citizens of Sovereign Southern States. Prior to the war there were five times as many abolition societies in the South as in the North. Virtually all educated Southerners were in favor of gradual emancipation of slaves. Gradual emancipation would have allowed the economy and labor system of the South to gradually adjust to a free paid labor system without economic collapse. Furthermore, since the New England States were responsible for the development of slavery in America, Southerners saw the morality claims by the North as blatant hypocrisy.

Clearly it was about economic freedom.

Gradually free SLAVES? Didn’t have the right to free human beings from slavery? Your articles are a total embarrassment. Get fucked.

After their great war to protect economic freedom, this happened.

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

It’s history not my fault. No need to use that foul language with a personal attack thank you.

Right here in New Orleans...
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

Go fuck yourself.

, Wow, he hasn't been this upset since finding out I visited the monumental tomb of Columbus located inside of the Cathedral of Seville!






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[tpstulane]

10 reasons for the Civil War.
http://www.ushist.com/general-informati ... ates.shtml
Slavery is mentioned as #9 but indirectly. Tariffs top reason.

TARIFF
Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820 demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay for the industrialization of America at no expense to them. Revenue bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South. Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States. Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832 eras (between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern secession movement.

Ah go fuck off. I freakin love the folks who say it wasn’t ultimately about the right to protect their economic value to enslave human beings. It’s so cute.
Keep up the fight!!

FWI, the internet article you referenced is an assault on human intelligence.

Indirectly slavery was a cause of the war. Most Southerners did not own slaves and would not have fought for the protection of slavery. However they believed that the North had no Constitutional right to free slaves held by citizens of Sovereign Southern States. Prior to the war there were five times as many abolition societies in the South as in the North. Virtually all educated Southerners were in favor of gradual emancipation of slaves. Gradual emancipation would have allowed the economy and labor system of the South to gradually adjust to a free paid labor system without economic collapse. Furthermore, since the New England States were responsible for the development of slavery in America, Southerners saw the morality claims by the North as blatant hypocrisy.

Clearly it was about economic freedom.

Gradually free SLAVES? Didn’t have the right to free human beings from slavery? Your articles are a total embarrassment. Get fucked.

After their great war to protect economic freedom, this happened.

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

It’s history not my fault. No need to use that foul language with a personal attack thank you.

Right here in New Orleans...
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lync ... ostpopular

Go fuck yourself.

, Wow, he hasn't been this upset since finding out I visited the monumental tomb of Columbus located inside of the Cathedral of Seville!






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It’s ok to disagree and argue but to continuously drop F bombs in a personal attacks goes over the line the line.

[Dave breslin]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

[swampnik]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Exactly! It's a shame that during Covid-19, for lack of sports stories; this forum diverged into politics and religious territory and laid bare some ideas of individual Tulane brethren that should not have been on display perhaps in our sports forum. Back to Green Wave unity on wanting the best for our sports teams whenever the next time is that they'll see a field, pond, alley or court.

[NOLABigSteve]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Ahhhh. Nick's Original Big Train Bar. Be still my heart.

[golfnut69]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Ahhhh. Nick's Original Big Train Bar. Be still my heart.

across from that Dixie beer company...had some great nights and mornings at Nicks

[Wave755]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Nick’s bar on Tulane Avenue back on track to reopen by Endymion 2021
https://midcitymessenger.com/2020/02/17 ... mion-2021/
But remember, you can't say the word "Dixie" anymore, as in "across the street from Dixie," and the street name for Tulane Avenue just might be changed shortly to "Mitch Landrieu Memorial Parkway Drive."

[tpstulane]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Nicks was a regular stop for our group on weekends and every bachelor party back in the day. We’d stay until closing when the bartenders would take a hose out and just hose down the entire place.
For MBA my favorite drink was called F__k Me Up!
Fun stuff!

[golfnut69]

Back to important stuff. Is Nicks on Tulane Ave opening again?

Nick’s bar on Tulane Avenue back on track to reopen by Endymion 2021
https://midcitymessenger.com/2020/02/17 ... mion-2021/
But remember, you can't say the word "Dixie" anymore, as in "across the street from Dixie," and the street name for Tulane Avenue just might be changed shortly to "Mitch Landrieu Memorial Parkway Drive."

Mitch Landrieu "MEMORIAL" drive...I am sure there was a Jazz funeral in his honor

[GreenLantern]

It’s ok to disagree and argue but to continuously drop F bombs in a personal attacks goes over the line the line.

I agree 1000%. We should be able to disagree respectfully without becoming anatomical.

Hats off to tps for not responding in similar fashion.

[tpstulane]

It’s ok to disagree and argue but to continuously drop F bombs in a personal attacks goes over the line the line.

I agree 1000%. We should be able to disagree respectfully without becoming anatomical.

Hats off to tps for not responding in similar fashion.

Appreciate that. I try to treat others like I would want to be treated. I think it’s good to have differences of opinion because you can always learn new things if your open minded. F bombs aimed at any poster is just not right on this platform.

[RollWaveRoll]

Yes good job TPS for not responding, that poster is clearly emotionally unstable. It's not like you are making this stuff up or choosing a side, its history.

[tpstulane]

Yes good job TPS for not responding, that poster is clearly emotionally unstable. It's not like you are making this stuff up or choosing a side, its history.

Thanks for the support!

[Bicoastalwave]

I don’t understand how I have never been to or heard of nicks ? Unless it’s just been blacked out in my mind (a real possibility).
I’m pretty sure I have been to and frequented just about every dive In New Orleans, with special attention to anything Tulane related. Tell me more of this Nicks big train bar

[Wave755]

I don’t understand how I have never been to or heard of nicks ? Unless it’s just been blacked out in my mind (a real possibility).
I’m pretty sure I have been to and frequented just about every dive In New Orleans, with special attention to anything Tulane related. Tell me more of this Nicks big train bar

It floated away about 15 years ago during Katrina. And, I wonder if Covid-19 will delay or kill Nick's plans for a re-opening? The article I posted was from February, 2020.

[NOLABigSteve]

It's ok to disagree with a fellow Greenie. But cut it out with the personal attacks. Any point you try and make is immediately invalidated when anyone acts in that manner.

Also, Roll Wave.

[mbawavefan12]

Look, I used vulgar language cause there was nothing else to change your mind, waste of time frankly.
I will be civil, but my point remains. This was a war fought to protect slavery. To insinuate otherwise is disingenuous. Citing economic interests is absurd. Again after the war IT DID NOT STOP. I just don’t understand why folks would want to be on the south’s side. It was brutal, the treatment of human beings with dark skin is absurd. Then we have reconstruction. How is this christian or decent? Move on and accept it was wrong or argue. I Will be there to stand up.

[mbawavefan12]

It’s ok to disagree and argue but to continuously drop F bombs in a personal attacks goes over the line the line.

I agree 1000%. We should be able to disagree respectfully without becoming anatomical.

Hats off to tps for not responding in similar fashion.

Appreciate that. I try to treat others like I would want to be treated. I think it’s good to have differences of opinion because you can always learn new things if your open minded. F bombs aimed at any poster is just not right on this platform.

To be clear, the south was justified to start a civil war?
If folks on this site had the choice, who would you have preferred to win this conflict? Make yourself heard loud and clear!!
This is a crazy time, citing “i am just presenting history” is cheap IMO. So give your thoughts, right here.

[mbawavefan12]

How is wearing that mask working? Keeping the peace?