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'Like wildfire': B.1.1.7 may soon dominate across the US
American public health officials will be watching what Johnson says closely, not least because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) believes that by as early as the end of next month B.1.1.7, the more transmissible COVID-19 variant originally identified in Britain in September, is likely to be the dominant one circulating within U.S. borders.
It's like we're trying our best to help the virus': A fourth coronavirus wave is looming if the US fails to contain COVID-19 variants, experts say


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'Like wildfire': B.1.1.7 may soon dominate across the US
American public health officials will be watching what Johnson says closely, not least because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) believes that by as early as the end of next month B.1.1.7, the more transmissible COVID-19 variant originally identified in Britain in September, is likely to be the dominant one circulating within U.S. borders.
It's like we're trying our best to help the virus': A fourth coronavirus wave is looming if the US fails to contain COVID-19 variants, experts say
Quoting yourself in repetitive posts seems a little redundant and grandiose to me. You do it multiple times in a row! gbg did you read the WSJ op-ed written by the doctor from Johns Hopkins that you said was lying yesterday? I would bet not since it doesn't jive with your agenda.

edit: he has 7 consecutive posts, a new record!
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Cases are down over 70% recently. Herd immunity definitely coming

https://www.courant.com/coronavirus/hc- ... story.html


https://www.newsweek.com/john-hopkins-d ... ty-1570615
https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6232476 ... show-clips
Fourth coronavirus surge a potential with new variants: NYC health director
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Cases are down over 70% recently. Herd immunity definitely coming

https://www.courant.com/coronavirus/hc- ... story.html


https://www.newsweek.com/john-hopkins-d ... ty-1570615
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COVID-19 variant found in UK spreads 'like wildfire.' British experts fear what will happen if US won't lock down
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson made yet another somber coronavirus-related address to the nation: A COVID-19 variant first identified in Kent, England, was thought to be between 50%-70% more infectious. In a little over a week, hospital admissions had increased by nearly a third. Deaths had risen by 20%. Johnson ordered the country's third full national lockdown since the start of the pandemic
Old news gb. That was 6 weeks ago. And after the "wildfire", cases in the U.S. are dropping like a rock. UK is almost 50% vaccinated and have it under control. Before hitting your panic button, read some of the latest updates and trends--many are positive.
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'Like wildfire': B.1.1.7 may soon dominate across the US
American public health officials will be watching what Johnson says closely, not least because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) believes that by as early as the end of next month B.1.1.7, the more transmissible COVID-19 variant originally identified in Britain in September, is likely to be the dominant one circulating within U.S. borders.
It's like we're trying our best to help the virus': A fourth coronavirus wave is looming if the US fails to contain COVID-19 variants, experts say
Mankind has never controlled viral mutations and variants--the virus will always do what it wants to do. At best, we respond to them and modify our vaccines, and hopefully they work. Even with annual flu strains, it's a hit or miss proposition. The mRNA technology provides great hope that going forward we will be able to rapidly develop effective vaccines to any viral strain--and we'll desperately need that capability if any of the bad ass Avian Flu strains (ie Asian H5N1) ever become easily transmissible.
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Herd immunity expected by April.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have- ... 1613669731
The Herd Immunity is somewhat painless...but the Branding, is a pain in the azz...Rowdy Yates...Gill Favor...Rollin...Rolllin..Rollin....rawhide !!!!
Totally false, spreading of false information is so damaging, some seem to get their rocks off by spreading unsubstantiated news. Facts by experts earliest will be late summer or Fall, Normalcy by the end of the year. Variants have not taken over yet, vaccine not as effective and may need a third booster if variants continue changing. Worse could be coming to some. We will all see, but don't jump the gun on speculation.
http://www.christianitydaily.com/articl ... giving.htm
President Joe Biden's coronavirus advisory team Chief Medical Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci changes his prediction again by saying that the United States may not reach herd immunity "by Thanksgiving," which comes later than previously stated.
The Beast explained that Fauci is "cautiously optimistic" of achieving the target come Fall this year and "still think that it is possible" because of the new variants of COVID-19 that have now been detected in the country.

Fauci reinforced this last Monday during a press conference stating that the B117 variant--the one spotted from the United Kingdom--as a "sobering news" since it ""could become dominant by the end of March."
That's right, our resident expert gbgreenie knows all. So of course, a WSJ article written by a John Hopkins Dr. is considered "spreading misinformation", but we're supposed to consider flip-flopping Dr Fauci and a site called christianitydaily as the absolute final word. Regardless, I'm not getting the vaccine. I've had Covid, I've got the antibodies, and they're saying immunity could be a year or much longer. I'll take my chances. If I die of Covid, I'll make sure my wife gives all my Tulane related stuff to gbgreenie as a forgiveness offering.
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COVID-19 variant found in UK spreads 'like wildfire.' British experts fear what will happen if US won't lock down
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson made yet another somber coronavirus-related address to the nation: A COVID-19 variant first identified in Kent, England, was thought to be between 50%-70% more infectious. In a little over a week, hospital admissions had increased by nearly a third. Deaths had risen by 20%. Johnson ordered the country's third full national lockdown since the start of the pandemic
Old news gb. That was 6 weeks ago. And after the "wildfire", cases in the U.S. are dropping like a rock. UK is almost 50% vaccinated and have it under control. Before hitting your panic button, read some of the latest updates and trends--many are positive.
Don't look now, Russians have found a case of transmission of an avian virus to human. Another virus. We better stay locked down forever. #fearporn
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GBG the most negative person here.
Sad. Doesn’t want optimism. Loves the pessimism. I guess he can blame Tulane for this outlook.
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GBG the most negative person here.
Sad. Doesn’t want optimism. Loves the pessimism. I guess he can blame Tulane for this outlook.
Optimism yes blindness no, this virus has peaked and plateaued several times bases on human behavior. Every time restrictions relaxed the virus exploded. Less than 20% of people are vaccinated, experts say we need 60-75% of population vaccinated. Getting the virus has proven short term but not long term immunity as people have already been reinfected after getting the virus once. So until vaccination reaches the 60-75% range any immunity is short lived. Covid is like the cold virus you will get it over and over.
Right now we may have a lot of short term immunity don't be blinded by that if we start easing up that short term immunity will wear off then the virus could explore beyond what we already have seen. We need to reach the targets for immunization and vaccine makers need to tweek for the variants!!!
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gbg....EVERY article or newscast I've read has a HUGE part of the equation that you ignore. Vaccinated plus those already infected (and they say the true number is 6 times what the tests have shown) together equal the percent of the population moving towards heard immunity. Your gloom and doom, repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again, doesn't equate to the fact that conditions are improving rapidly across the country. And you DO NOT KNOW that any immunity is short or long term. How do I know that you, gbg, do not know? Because MEDICAL EXPERTS DO NOT KNOW. So please stop telling us you know more than the rest of us and you know more than medical experts.

Again, I point out how you told us all that the doctor from Johns Hopkins, published in the Wall Street Journal, didn't know what he's talking about.
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Our cases and hospitalizations in Lake Charles have dropped quite a bit as well. However we were told in a hospital memo that cases are expected to uptick in March with the new variant, but we will wait and see. Too bad the vaccine doesn’t work against the common cold because I caught it from my kids this week LOL.
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gbg....EVERY article or newscast I've read has a HUGE part of the equation that you ignore. Vaccinated plus those already infected (and they say the true number is 6 times what the tests have shown) together equal the percent of the population moving towards heard immunity. Your gloom and doom, repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again, doesn't equate to the fact that conditions are improving rapidly across the country. And you DO NOT KNOW that any immunity is short or long term. How do I know that you, gbg, do not know? Because MEDICAL EXPERTS DO NOT KNOW. So please stop telling us you know more than the rest of us and you know more than medical experts.

Again, I point out how you told us all that the doctor from Johns Hopkins, published in the Wall Street Journal, didn't know what he's talking about.
+1 regarding those with the vaccine + those who still have antibodies. Distribution is finally ramping up and another vaccine will be administered in the next two weeks.

The only real number to worry about is % of those over 55 years old who have been vaccinated. Data shows between 93-99% of all deaths are in that age group.
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gbg....EVERY article or newscast I've read has a HUGE part of the equation that you ignore. Vaccinated plus those already infected (and they say the true number is 6 times what the tests have shown) together equal the percent of the population moving towards heard immunity. Your gloom and doom, repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again, doesn't equate to the fact that conditions are improving rapidly across the country. And you DO NOT KNOW that any immunity is short or long term. How do I know that you, gbg, do not know? Because MEDICAL EXPERTS DO NOT KNOW. So please stop telling us you know more than the rest of us and you know more than medical experts.

Again, I point out how you told us all that the doctor from Johns Hopkins, published in the Wall Street Journal, didn't know what he's talking about.
+1 regarding those with the vaccine + those who still have antibodies. Distribution is finally ramping up and another vaccine will be administered in the next two weeks.

The only real number to worry about is % of those over 55 years old who have been vaccinated. Data shows between 93-99% of all deaths are in that age group.
This is the biggest number everyone ignores, not the death or recovery numbers alone does not tell the story of covid19. Hospitalizations, ventilation, and 30% have long term problems that will lead to premature deaths. That should be the top concern. Even those that have minor symptoms later on much more damage is found that they must face long term.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... scientists
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DfromCT wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:36 am
gbg....EVERY article or newscast I've read has a HUGE part of the equation that you ignore. Vaccinated plus those already infected (and they say the true number is 6 times what the tests have shown) together equal the percent of the population moving towards heard immunity. Your gloom and doom, repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again, doesn't equate to the fact that conditions are improving rapidly across the country. And you DO NOT KNOW that any immunity is short or long term. How do I know that you, gbg, do not know? Because MEDICAL EXPERTS DO NOT KNOW. So please stop telling us you know more than the rest of us and you know more than medical experts.

Again, I point out how you told us all that the doctor from Johns Hopkins, published in the Wall Street Journal, didn't know what he's talking about.
+1 regarding those with the vaccine + those who still have antibodies. Distribution is finally ramping up and another vaccine will be administered in the next two weeks.

The only real number to worry about is % of those over 55 years old who have been vaccinated. Data shows between 93-99% of all deaths are in that age group.
This is the biggest number everyone ignores, not the death or recovery numbers alone does not tell the story of covid19. Hospitalizations, ventilation, and 30% have long term problems that will lead to premature deaths. That should be the top concern. Even those that have minor symptoms later on much more damage is found that they must face long term.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... scientists
Neuroscientist Athena Akrami has had debilitating symptoms since her coronavirus infection more than 4 months ago. RYAN LOW
From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists
By Jennifer Couzin-FrankelJul. 31, 2020 , 1:30 PM

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.
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+1 regarding those with the vaccine + those who still have antibodies. Distribution is finally ramping up and another vaccine will be administered in the next two weeks.

The only real number to worry about is % of those over 55 years old who have been vaccinated. Data shows between 93-99% of all deaths are in that age group.
This is the biggest number everyone ignores, not the death or recovery numbers alone does not tell the story of covid19. Hospitalizations, ventilation, and 30% have long term problems that will lead to premature deaths. That should be the top concern. Even those that have minor symptoms later on much more damage is found that they must face long term.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... scientists
Neuroscientist Athena Akrami has had debilitating symptoms since her coronavirus infection more than 4 months ago. RYAN LOW
From ‘brain fog’ to heart damage, COVID-19’s lingering problems alarm scientists

By Jennifer Couzin-FrankelJul. 31, 2020 , 1:30 PM

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.

Athena Akrami’s neuroscience lab reopened last month without her. Life for the 38-year-old is a pale shadow of what it was before 17 March, the day she first experienced symptoms of the novel coronavirus. At University College London (UCL), Akrami’s students probe how the brain organizes memories to support learning, but at home, she struggles to think clearly and battles joint and muscle pain. “I used to go to the gym three times a week,” Akrami says. Now, “My physical activity is bed to couch, maybe couch to kitchen.”

Her early symptoms were textbook for COVID-19: a fever and cough, followed by shortness of breath, chest pain, and extreme fatigue. For weeks, she struggled to heal at home. But rather than ebb with time, Akrami’s symptoms waxed and waned without ever going away. She’s had just 3 weeks since March when her body temperature was normal.

Everybody talks about a binary situation, you either get it mild and recover quickly, or you get really sick and wind up in the ICU,” says Akrami, who falls into neither category. Thousands echo her story in online COVID-19 support groups. Outpatient clinics for survivors are springing up, and some are already overburdened. Akrami has been waiting more than 4 weeks to be seen at one of them, despite a referral from her general practitioner.

The list of lingering maladies from COVID-19 is longer and more varied than most doctors could have imagined. Ongoing problems include fatigue, a racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, achy joints, foggy thinking, a persistent loss of sense of smell, and damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys, and brain.

The likelihood of a patient developing persistent symptoms is hard to pin down because different studies track different outcomes and follow survivors for different lengths of time. One group in Italy found that 87% of a patient cohort hospitalized for acute COVID-19 was still struggling 2 months later. Data from the COVID Symptom Study, which uses an app into which millions of people in the United States, United Kingdom, and Sweden have tapped their symptoms, suggest 10% to 15% of people—including some “mild” cases—don’t quickly recover. But with the crisis just months old, no one knows how far into the future symptoms will endure, and whether COVID-19 will prompt the onset of chronic diseases.

I used to go to the gym three times a week. [Now,] my physical activity is bed to couch, maybe couch to kitchen.

Athena Akrami, University College London
Researchers are now facing a familiar COVID-19 narrative: trying to make sense of a mystifying illness. Distinct features of the virus, including its propensity to cause widespread inflammation and blood clotting, could play a role in the assortment of concerns now surfacing. “We’re seeing a really complex group of ongoing symptoms,” says Rachael Evans, a pulmonologist at the University of Leicester.

Survivor studies are starting to probe them. This month, researchers across the United Kingdom including Evans launched a study that will follow 10,000 survivors for 1 year to start, and up to 25 years. Ultimately, researchers hope not just to understand the disease’s long shadow, but also to predict who’s at highest risk of lingering symptoms and learn whether treatments in the acute phase of illness can head them off.

For Götz Martin Richter, a radiologist at the Klinikum Stuttgart in Germany, what’s especially striking is that just as the illness’ acute symptoms vary unpredictably, so, too, do those that linger. Richter thinks of two patients he has treated: a middle-aged man who experienced mild pneumonia from COVID-19, and an elderly woman already suffering from chronic leukemia and arterial disease, who almost died from the virus and had to be resuscitated. Three months later, the man with the mild case “falls asleep all day long and cannot work,” Richter says. The woman has minimal lung damage and feels fine.

EARLY IN the pandemic, doctors learned that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, can disrupt a breathtaking array of tissues in the body. Like a key fitting neatly into a lock, SARS-CoV-2 uses a spike protein on its surface to latch onto cells’ ACE2 receptors. The lungs, heart, gut, kidneys, blood vessels, and nervous system, among other tissues, carry ACE2 on their cells’ surfaces—and thus, are vulnerable to COVID-19. The virus can also induce a dramatic inflammatory reaction, including in the brain. Often, “The danger comes when the body responds out of proportion to the infection,” says Adrija Hajra, a physician at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City. She continues to care for those who were infected in the spring and are still recovering.

Despite the novelty of SARS-CoV-2, its long-term effects have precedents: Infections with other pathogens are associated with lasting impacts ranging from heart problems to chronic fatigue. “Medicine has been used to dealing with this problem” of acute viral illness followed by ongoing symptoms, says Michael Zandi, a neurologist at UCL. Even common illnesses such as pneumonia can mean a months long recovery. “I see a lot of people who had [the brain inflammation] encephalitis 3, 4 years ago, and still can’t think, or are tired,” Zandi says. Infections with certain bacteria and Zika virus, among others, are linked to Guillain-Barre syndrome, in which the immune system attacks nerve tissue, causing tingling, weakness, and paralysis. (Some cases of Guillain-Barre after COVID-19 have been reported, but “it’s not definite [there’s] a spike,” says Rachel Brown, a UCL neurologist who works with Zandi.)

Pain that lingers A subset of COVID-19 patients experiences ongoing symptoms and complications such as organ damage, and researchers are proposing reasons for some of them (bottom). Scientists are trying to identify such symptoms, how common they are, how long they last, who’s at risk, and how to treat and prevent them.
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1. Brain fog Difficulty thinking can occur after acute COVID-19infection. The virus may damage brain cells, and inflammation in the brain or body may also cause neurologic complications. Other viral infections can also lead to brain fog.

2. Shortness of breath Doctors are eyeing lung and heart complications including scarring. Patients who become critically ill with COVID-19seem more likely to have lingering shortness of breath, but those with mild cases are also at risk.

3. Heart arrhythmia The virus can harm the heart, and doctor are concerned about long-term damage. How the heart heals after COVID-19 could help determine whether a patient develops an irregular heartbeat.

4. Hypertension Some patients have high blood pressure after an acute infection, even when cases were relatively mild and people were previously healthy, possibly because the virus targets blood vessels and heart cells.
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+1 regarding those with the vaccine + those who still have antibodies. Distribution is finally ramping up and another vaccine will be administered in the next two weeks.

The only real number to worry about is % of those over 55 years old who have been vaccinated. Data shows between 93-99% of all deaths are in that age group.
This is the biggest number everyone ignores, not the death or recovery numbers alone does not tell the story of covid19. Hospitalizations, ventilation, and 30% have long term problems that will lead to premature deaths. That should be the top concern. Even those that have minor symptoms later on much more damage is found that they must face long term.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... scientists
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gbg,

That article was from SEVEN MONTHS ago, when the virus had only been in the US for FOUR MONTHS. There's no way in 3 months of spread that they could determine if ANYONE, much less what percentage of people would actually have long term problems from the virus. You're just grasping at straws.

As for those that "have minor symptoms, later on much more damage is found", again, enough time hasn't even elapsed to determine that. And if you notice, you hear very little now about long-Covid, because its such a small percentage of cases.

The thing is, for every ONE PERSON that's written about in these articles, there's 100,000 people out there that had mild or no symptoms and DONT have long term issues.
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Sixty pages and counting.

I'm betting the final COVID pagecount over/under at 85. (Which speaks volumes to Tanner Lee's resiliency that he is a more enduring topic than COVID).
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gbg,

That article was from SEVEN MONTHS ago, when the virus had only been in the US for FOUR MONTHS. There's no way in 3 months of spread that they could determine if ANYONE, much less what percentage of people would actually have long term problems from the virus. You're just grasping at straws.

As for those that "have minor symptoms, later on much more damage is found", again, enough time hasn't even elapsed to determine that. And if you notice, you hear very little now about long-Covid, because its such a small percentage of cases.

The thing is, for every ONE PERSON that's written about in these articles, there's 100,000 people out there that had mild or no symptoms and DONT have long term issues.
Ok, this is the latest on Long Term Symptoms and its still 1/3 of covid19 cases all ages!!!
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021021 ... symptoms#1
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