UTEP Gameday Thread....

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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby JerseyWave » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:32 pm

I would pull Montana and Darkwa now. Take away their helmets. No need for them to play any more today.



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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby sader24 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:38 pm

UTSA 14 N. Texas 3



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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:39 pm

sader24 wrote:Are we sure if UTSA wins we are playing for the title next week?


UTSA would also need to lose their next game vs La Tech. If UNT wins, THEY would need to lose at Tulsa.

That's why that UTSA loss was such a backbreaker.



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Postby tgibson » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:45 pm

OUG wrote:
sader24 wrote:Are we sure if UTSA wins we are playing for the title next week?


UTSA would also need to lose their next game vs La Tech. If UNT wins, THEY would need to lose at Tulsa.

That's why that UTSA loss was such a backbreaker.


What if Tulane, UTSA, and Rice all finish 6-2, with Tulane beating Rice, Rice beating UTSA, and UTSA beating us?



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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:58 pm

tgibson wrote:
OUG wrote:
sader24 wrote:Are we sure if UTSA wins we are playing for the title next week?


UTSA would also need to lose their next game vs La Tech. If UNT wins, THEY would need to lose at Tulsa.

That's why that UTSA loss was such a backbreaker.


What if Tulane, UTSA, and Rice all finish 6-2, with Tulane beating Rice, Rice beating UTSA, and UTSA beating us?


In that scenario, presumably UNT loses next week as well to finish 5-3?

Well, the three teams at the top would each be 1-1 against one another. So you go to the next tie breaker.

I believe Rice would be eliminated on tie breaker #4, records against divisional opponents on descending order of finish, because they would have lost to UNT.

Then we have no common cross divisional opponents, so we move to tie breaker #6, where we likely win based on our win over ECU.

So, that is an additional scenario with a UTSA win.



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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby sader24 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:02 pm

What if all 4 teams finish 6-2?



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Postby NOLABigSteve » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:10 pm

Reminder to take it to the main forum at the end of the game. Thanks.


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Postby sader24 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:12 pm

It's now 21-6 UTSA



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Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:20 pm

How strange is that? A play you rarely see, a fumble into the endzone and out of bounds for a touchback, and it happens twice in 3 days in the same stadium?


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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:22 pm

sader24 wrote:What if all 4 teams finish 6-2?


First tie breaker would again be records against one another:

UNT beat Rice, would have lost to us and UTSA: 1-2
We would have beaten Rice and UNT, lost to UTSA: 2-1
UTSA would have lost to Rice and beaten us and UNT: 2-1
Rice would have lost to us and UNT, beaten UTSA: 1-2

So you go to highest winning percentage within division: Tulane 5-1, UTSA 5-1

Then the records against divisional opponents in descending order of finish: Tulane would take this based on beating both Rice and UNT.

I THINK this is how it works now. But I'm starting to confuse myself. Maybe the league will issue a press release tonight on scenarios. Wishful thinking



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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:51 pm

OUG wrote:
sader24 wrote:What if all 4 teams finish 6-2?


First tie breaker would again be records against one another:

UNT beat Rice, would have lost to us and UTSA: 1-2
We would have beaten Rice and UNT, lost to UTSA: 2-1
UTSA would have lost to Rice and beaten us and UNT: 2-1
Rice would have lost to us and UNT, beaten UTSA: 1-2

So you go to highest winning percentage within division: Tulane 5-1, UTSA 5-1

Then the records against divisional opponents in descending order of finish: Tulane would take this based on beating both Rice and UNT.

I THINK this is how it works now. But I'm starting to confuse myself. Maybe the league will issue a press release tonight on scenarios. Wishful thinking




Two-team or multiple team tie for divisional champion
1. Highest regular season winning percentage based on overall Conference USA play.
2. If tied, head to head between tied teams.
3. If still tied, highest winning percentage within division.
4. If still tied, compare records against divisional opponents in descending order of finish.
5. If still tied, compare records with common cross-divisional opponents.
6. If still tied, compare records against cross-divisional opponents in descending order of
finish.
7. If still tied, team with highest BCS ranking.
8. If still tied, the representative will be the team that has not participated in the championship
game most recently.
9. If at any point the tie is broken in a multiple team tie, the remaining teams will begin the
process again at #2.



Based on your scenario above, a four team tie at 6-2 in the division results in UTSA winning the division. We go back to #2, and UTSA will have beaten us. So, we lose out on a chance to play for the conference championship due to losing a game we only gave up 10 points in. Tulane luck continues to shine through.


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Re: UTEP Gameday Thread....

Postby winwave » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:05 pm

To win the division we need to beat Rice and UTSA must lose. That's the only way we win it.


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