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watching the Shockers play ND...ND is two steps too slow


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Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:19 pm

Seems like there's been an overall talent upgrade, and the Conroy holdovers have all shown significant improvement under Dunleavy. All good signs.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:49 pm

Back from the game and I have to say while looking tired, shooting horribly from the free throw line and struggling along the way, it’s great to walk away with a 21-point victory over a decent MAC team.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:32 pm

We were favored by 11 and won by 21. Way to take care of business.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:39 pm

golfnut69 wrote:watching the Shockers play ND...ND is two steps too slow
Apparently not as Irish win 67=66.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:43 pm

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golfnut69 wrote:watching the Shockers play ND...ND is two steps too slow
Apparently not as Irish win 67=66.
Wow. That’s too bad for the AAC. Was hoping the Shockers would have won the Maui.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:52 pm

Great game to watch. They should all be like that.
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OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
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OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
It’s a road game. Looking at KenPom, we probably won’t be favored against GSU, and if we are it’s by less than 3. It’s a test. GSU will be very focused coming back from that upset loss against PVA&M.

UNC is not a test. All we will really find out in that game is that we don’t have the talent to hang within 15 of a national champ calibur team. And no shame in that, but it won’t tell us anything meaningful about where our ceiling might be.
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winwave wrote:
OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
It’s a road game. Looking at KenPom, we probably won’t be favored against GSU, and if we are it’s by less than 3. It’s a test. GSU will be very focused coming back from that upset loss against PVA&M.

UNC is not a test. All we will really find out in that game is that we don’t have the talent to hang within 15 of a national champ calibur team. And no shame in that, but it won’t tell us anything meaningful about where our ceiling might be.
Sorry but losing to Prairie View when it had no athletic scholarships was certainly the nadir of the Clark era and perhaps the worst loss ever in Tulane history (and there's alot of competition for that dubious honor.) Losing to Prairie View at home says alot more about GSU than PV. The test of Tulane is whether it can pile on. We'll see.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:42 am

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OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
I agree with winwave. UNC will be our first real test. We’ve beaten one team with a winning record (Miami O 3-2)
Brooklyn 1-4, SELA 1-3, Colorado St 2-3, and Fordham 1-3. All losing records. All teams we played so far we should have beaten and we have.
After we beat GSU they will have a losing record.
Then we face an 0-6 winless Alcorn St.
The team is better this year but the schedule is much weaker at this point than last year.
Our Strength of Schedule is around 200.
Anything less than 7-0 going into NC will be a disappointment IMO.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:55 am

JerseyWave wrote:Tulane Basketball is back! It’s been a long time, many coaching staffs ago. We have a competitive well coached team that’s fun to watch. We are going to make some noise in the AAC. Dunleavy knows what he is doing.



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Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:39 am

Great to see Hoops back from the dead. The game was played the day before a holiday which could cut down on crowd size but was hoping some of the locals will start taking notice. The box score advised 1500 in attendance, up from 1300 against SELA, and 1000 against LIU, so gradual improvement. Looking at the schedule, our next home games are Alcorn, Southern, Nichols, etc. The first potential draw opponent will be SMU on Jan 4th or UCONN on the 13th.
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Wavetrader wrote:Great to see Hoops back from the dead. The game was played the day before a holiday which could cut down on crowd size but was hoping some of the locals will start taking notice. The box score advised 1500 in attendance, up from 1300 against SELA, and 1000 against LIU, so gradual improvement. Looking at the schedule, our next home games are Alcorn, Southern, Nichols, etc. The first potential draw opponent will be SMU on Jan 4th or UCONN on the 13th.
Tulane's attendance underachieves but it has never drawn well during holidays for basketball. Falcons play at home at same time as GSU game Sunday. GSU arena is perhaps a mile and a half from Mercedes Benz dome in Atlanta. I guess there will be 200 folks in stands for Tulane game and bizarrely they will have trouble finding parking for a Sunday noon (local time) holiday game downtown. It's not just Tulane that has to compete with the top pro leagues.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:12 am

Pleasantly surprised at how well the team is playing, even if schedule is weak. This looks like a pretty solid team.
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lurker123 wrote:
Wavetrader wrote:Great to see Hoops back from the dead. The game was played the day before a holiday which could cut down on crowd size but was hoping some of the locals will start taking notice. The box score advised 1500 in attendance, up from 1300 against SELA, and 1000 against LIU, so gradual improvement. Looking at the schedule, our next home games are Alcorn, Southern, Nichols, etc. The first potential draw opponent will be SMU on Jan 4th or UCONN on the 13th.
Tulane's attendance underachieves but it has never drawn well during holidays for basketball. Falcons play at home at same time as GSU game Sunday. GSU arena is perhaps a mile and a half from Mercedes Benz dome in Atlanta. I guess there will be 200 folks in stands for Tulane game and bizarrely they will have trouble finding parking for a Sunday noon (local time) holiday game downtown. It's not just Tulane that has to compete with the top pro leagues.

Basketball in the Deep South. Even the big schools have to do something special for people to hop the bandwagon. It's sort of indifferent with no success. Of course you get a few Yahoos like us raising hell, but most just find other stuff to do.
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Wavetrader wrote:Great to see Hoops back from the dead. The game was played the day before a holiday which could cut down on crowd size but was hoping some of the locals will start taking notice. The box score advised 1500 in attendance, up from 1300 against SELA, and 1000 against LIU, so gradual improvement. Looking at the schedule, our next home games are Alcorn, Southern, Nichols, etc. The first potential draw opponent will be SMU on Jan 4th or UCONN on the 13th.
Yes. The Pelicans are playing well also and their tickets are reasonable. I believe as conference starts we’ll start to draw better. But only if we continue to win. Students will come back bigger first before the paying fan IMO.
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OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
It’s a road game. Looking at KenPom, we probably won’t be favored against GSU, and if we are it’s by less than 3. It’s a test. GSU will be very focused coming back from that upset loss against PVA&M.

UNC is not a test. All we will really find out in that game is that we don’t have the talent to hang within 15 of a national champ calibur team. And no shame in that, but it won’t tell us anything meaningful about where our ceiling might be.
Sorry but that's just low bar syndrome thinking. I'm not conceding the UNC game. Long shot for the win sure but how we play against them will give us a good indication of what we can expect this year.
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winwave wrote:
OUG wrote:
winwave wrote:
OUG wrote:Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.
They lost to Prairie View. They are picked middle of the pack in in the Sunbelt. Ole Miss is picked to finish near the bottom of the SEC . The first test is UNC.
It’s a road game. Looking at KenPom, we probably won’t be favored against GSU, and if we are it’s by less than 3. It’s a test. GSU will be very focused coming back from that upset loss against PVA&M.

UNC is not a test. All we will really find out in that game is that we don’t have the talent to hang within 15 of a national champ calibur team. And no shame in that, but it won’t tell us anything meaningful about where our ceiling might be.
Sorry but that's just low bar syndrome thinking. I'm not conceding the UNC game. Long shot for the win sure but how we play against them will give us a good indication of what we can expect this year.
Amen. Team isn't conceding the game. Would it take an awful lot to beat UNC on the road? Sure. Here is one potential longshot scenario. Tulane plays real well for 32 minutes and is leading and then starts to think about it. Ideally with this staff, it will think it can win. Then we'll see. As I said, it's a longshot but until I see this team play really poorly, why not consider it?
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greenphantom wrote:Pleasantly surprised at how well the team is playing, even if schedule is weak. This looks like a pretty solid team.
True. And after what we saw last year, I just want to see a bunch of wins on our record. I don't care if they come from North Carolina or North Carolina Central.
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Sorry but that's just low bar syndrome thinking. I'm not conceding the UNC game. Long shot for the win sure but how we play against them will give us a good indication of what we can expect this year.
Amen. Team isn't conceding the game. Would it take an awful lot to beat UNC on the road? Sure. Here is one potential longshot scenario. Tulane plays real well for 32 minutes and is leading and then starts to think about it. Ideally with this staff, it will think it can win. Then we'll see. As I said, it's a longshot but until I see this team play really poorly, why not consider it?
I agree with both Lurker and winwave (2x in one day, win!) UNC will be a test. Yes, asking for a win in Chapel Hill is a tough task to call for. But I'm sure the team and the coaching staff isn't writing the game off. How well we compete against a legitimate top 10 team will tell us a whole lot.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:21 pm

This sounds like a good headline for The Onion. Fans Decide On Message Board Whether Or Not Their College Team Should Concede Game Against Favored Opponent
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golfnut69 wrote:watching the Shockers play ND...ND is two steps too slow
Apparently not as Irish win 67=66.
I was watching midway thru the first half...I found out the organizers changed the Ref's to converted Catholics for the second half...U could tell, because the whistles were attached to Rosaries ..and they had Touch Down Jesus Tattoos ....
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:02 pm

We lost to McNeese State and Texas State at home last year. We're obviously massively better.

Florida State will be a better test than UNC; but I'm interested to see how our better players- Frazier and Embo and a couple of others- match up with UNC and how the team deals with a negative talent differential as a whole.
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