Football Recruiting 2017

[Jaxwave]

Sorry, very proud of my Dickens collection.

[Jaxwave]

Fritz needs to be all over this. Kid wants an MBA. Has 2 years eligibility left. Somebody who knows how can forward this to him.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/college/tech- ... YEBVwZGRO/

[golfnut69]

The recruit's name is Ryan Dickens.

The best part of that article is in the Comments;

"Davy Jones
1/17/17 12:24pm
Reporter: Can you describe how you felt when you were offered the scholarship and then when they rescinded it just two weeks before signing day?

Dickens: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."

It's easy to understand young Mr. Dickens' disappointment. He had Great Expectations. Now he's experiencing Hard Times.

have zero expectations, great or not and U will never be disappointed...I did see the movie Hard Times, starring Charles Bronson and James Colburn and filmed in NOLA...wasn't great, but not too bad...but then again, I did not have any expectations

[winwave]

Everybody wants Grad transfers? Here's one for us. 6'5" 300lb OL grad from "the U". Immediately eligible for 2017
https://twitter.com/mattyports/status/8 ... 1922813952 https://twitter.com/FearTheWaveBlog/sta ... 3601577984

Thanks for the info.. Here's his bio:

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArti ... M_ID=28700

[RobertM320]

Fritz needs to be all over this. Kid wants an MBA. Has 2 years eligibility left. Somebody who knows how can forward this to him.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/college/tech- ... YEBVwZGRO/

I guess I don't quite understand the grad transfer guidelines. I thought you could only transfer to a school that offers an advanced degree your current school doesn't. I can't imagine Georgia Tech doesn't offer an MBA.

[RobertM320]

Thanks for the info.. Here's his bio:

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArti ... M_ID=28700

I think I saw somewhere that he's got two years of eligibility remaining. My guess would be he got a medical redshirt for 2014. So a regular redshirt in 2013, a medical RS in 2014, and played two years 2015/2016.

[wave97]

Everybody wants Grad transfers? Here's one for us. 6'5" 300lb OL grad from "the U". Immediately eligible for 2017
https://twitter.com/mattyports/status/8 ... 1922813952 https://twitter.com/FearTheWaveBlog/sta ... 3601577984

Thanks for the info.. Here's his bio:

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArti ... M_ID=28700

He's a PA Boy (Pottstown), attended the Hun School (private boarding in Princeton, NJ). When the program starts winning we can start cherry picking these guys out of high school from CA to the Mid-Atlantic.

[RobertM320]

According to Will Guillory, he only has one year eligibility. Wonder if he can go back and apply for a med RS for 3 yrs ago?

[mbawavefan12]

According to Will Guillory, he only has one year eligibility. Wonder if he can go back and apply for a med RS for 3 yrs ago?

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArti ... =206329593

2013 Redshirted
2014 Missed the season due to heat stroke complications
2015 played mostly special teams
2016 played limited role

So I think he has only one year left as I don't think you can redshirt then get a medical redshirt, IDK for sure though.

[Ruski]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

[golfnut69]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

[mbawavefan12]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

[golfnut69]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

I think there will be at least one more juco/grad transfer lineman on board and could be as many as three...

[Ruski]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

[Pepper]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

Fickell has been recruiting the state of Ohio for a long time. WF is on his way to building those relationships. Plus a lot more talent there than here to choose from. Not bad facilities either.

[golfnut69]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

as a recruit U have to ask yourself a question...do I play for a Frickell or a FRITZ..... bring on the Fritz

[RobertM320]

According to Will Guillory, he only has one year eligibility. Wonder if he can go back and apply for a med RS for 3 yrs ago?

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArti ... =206329593

2013 Redshirted
2014 Missed the season due to heat stroke complications
2015 played mostly special teams
2016 played limited role

So I think he has only one year left as I don't think you can redshirt then get a medical redshirt, IDK for sure though.

Then why do they always talk about a medical redshirt giving a sixth year? This would perfect example. Six years to play four.

EDIT: seems a bit inconclusive to me. But it looks like he only gets one.

From the NCAA:

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/201 ... dshirt.htm

Medical Hardship Requirements

To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.
The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.
The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.

Medical Red-shirts and the Five-Year Clock

Athletes must keep in mind both the five-year clock and their four seasons of competition. Even if an athlete gets a medical hardship waiver, he or she needs to have time left on their five-year clock (10-semester/15-quarter clock in Divisions II and III) to use that season.

This is problematic for athletes took a normal redshirt season or sat out due to a transfer. An athlete can generally not use a medical redshirt in those cases unless they get a clock extension or sixth year waiver. To do that the athlete show they lost two seasons outside of his or her control. The medical redshirt would be one, but the athlete would still need to show another.

[Ruski]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

Fickell has been recruiting the state of Ohio for a long time. WF is on his way to building those relationships. Plus a lot more talent there than here to choose from. Not bad facilities either.

I get all that. In a few weeks we'll know a lot more. All I'm saying is thus far WF recruiting has been lacking. I'd love to see Shaun King brought in as a co-OC or something. All the USF guys have been raving about his recruiting prowess.

[RobertM320]

But then you have this regarding sixth year eligibility.

On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season. Former Oklahoma Sooners quarterback Jason White is perhaps the best known example of this, as he had redshirted his freshman year, then subsequently tore the ACL in both knees, causing him to miss nearly two years of eligible playing time. A more recent example is former Houston Cougars quarterback Case Keenum. His story is similar to that of White; Keenum redshirted his freshman year of 2006, and then tore an ACL three games into the 2010 season, which would have otherwise been his final year of eligibility.

How does the Case Keenum situation meet the criteria of being kept from playing for more than one season? He redshirted in 2006, played 07,08,09, and 2010 would have been his 5th year. He only missed 2010, so why did he qualify for a sixth year?

[Pepper]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

Fickell has been recruiting the state of Ohio for a long time. WF is on his way to building those relationships. Plus a lot more talent there than here to choose from. Not bad facilities either.

I get all that. In a few weeks we'll know a lot more. All I'm saying is thus far WF recruiting has been lacking. I'd love to see Shaun King brought in as a co-OC or something. All the USF guys have been raving about his recruiting prowess.

Agree. We need a local guy on staff to beat the bushes.

[RobertM320]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

Fickell has been recruiting the state of Ohio for a long time. WF is on his way to building those relationships. Plus a lot more talent there than here to choose from. Not bad facilities either.

I get all that. In a few weeks we'll know a lot more. All I'm saying is thus far WF recruiting has been lacking. I'd love to see Shaun King brought in as a co-OC or something. All the USF guys have been raving about his recruiting prowess.

That's not going to happen, Ruski. King is a hometown boy. Grew up in the Tampa area, played his pro ball there, and has a family there. His only tie to NOLA is four years at Tulane, including one special season. That's why I never thought he'd follow Willie Taggart to Oregon. It was going to be either stay at USF, or go back to what he was doing before.

[RobertM320]

Agree. We need a local guy on staff to beat the bushes.

Yes, but King is not the guy. He's not local. There needs to be someone else.

[Ruski]

There are 2 weeks left. WF is coming on strong of late with Khalil McClain, Sam Crawford, Paul Gainer, Brian Roberts, Ellison Hubbard, Aaron Donald, Shannon Forman, Issac Buell, and Kierston Johnson. If WF can get 2 of the McClain, Crawford, and Gainer that'd be huge for the offense. Getting more firepower on D would be gravy too.

If we get 4 out of those 8 I'll happily eat crow.

[Ruski]

He's pretty much only ever seen the field on Special Teams, how much of an impact do you all expect from him? Is he getting here early?

his impact....300 lbs...and experience at the FBS / BSC level

That LSU DL a few years ago never saw the field and made a huge impact. This Miami kid may still have been recovering from his coma complications. Either way, it's worththe risk and good at least to push the younger guys.

When you add in the transfers/JUCO guys, this class is middle of the road in the AAC IMHO.

If we end up middle of the road I'll be happy and surprised. WF recruiting seems to be his biggest weakness thus far. We're currently 9th in the league according to 247 and Cincy has been killing it with Fickell on board, the gap to 8th is widening.

Fickell has been recruiting the state of Ohio for a long time. WF is on his way to building those relationships. Plus a lot more talent there than here to choose from. Not bad facilities either.

I get all that. In a few weeks we'll know a lot more. All I'm saying is thus far WF recruiting has been lacking. I'd love to see Shaun King brought in as a co-OC or something. All the USF guys have been raving about his recruiting prowess.

That's not going to happen, Ruski. King is a hometown boy. Grew up in the Tampa area, played his pro ball there, and has a family there. His only tie to NOLA is four years at Tulane, including one special season. That's why I never thought he'd follow Willie Taggart to Oregon. It was going to be either stay at USF, or go back to what he was doing before.

A promotion and salary increase would be great motivation. And I remember seeing Tulane tweets from him at some point.

[Ruski]

Agree. We need a local guy on staff to beat the bushes.

Yes, but King is not the guy. He's not local. There needs to be someone else.

He might not be local but he did lead Tulane to an undefeated season, that could be even better. The problem with local kids, I imagine, is they are told/think you can never win at Tulane. Also being a successful black QB/coach would go a long way. See how well CJ/Frank Wilson have done in the area.