QB Commit: Kaylan Wiggins, Sanford, FL

wave97 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:58 am

https://twitter.com/WigginsKaylan
Hudl link on his twitter

Aberzombie1892 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:10 am

We beat out Army, Navy, and Gardner-Webb for his services - remember that Army/Navy do not have athletic scholarships in the traditional sense. He is a 2* at Scout and appears to be unrated by the other 3.

jonathanjoseph · Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:14 am

Wow. I hope we did not recruit him as a QB because he does not appear to have D1A passing ability.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3183138/574 ... 247c78e643

waveclem · Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:30 am

Aberzombie1892 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:38 am

jonathanjoseph wrote:Wow. I hope we did not recruit him as a QB because he does not appear to have D1A passing ability.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3183138/574 ... 247c78e643

If he can't pass that well, he will fit in just fine with our current co-starting QBs.

EDIT: Maxpreps has his stats. During his Junior 15-16 season, his passing accuracy was 47.6% for a total of 777 yards for 5 touchdowns and 4 Interceptions, and, during the same season, he rushed for 728 yards for 10 touchdowns. He totaled 167.2 yards per game through both rushing and passing. Let's hope he significantly improves this fall.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/kaylan- ... -stats.htm

Pepper · Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:53 am

Welcome to the family.

51WaveBG · Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:33 pm

Wiggins plays for Seminole High School in Sanford, Florida (not Tallahassee.). It is in Class 8, which is the highest classification in
Florida High School sports, so he is playing in very good competition. Should be a good addition to this class.

wave97 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:11 pm

51WaveBG wrote:Wiggins plays for Seminole High School in Sanford, Florida (not Tallahassee.). It is in Class 8, which is the highest classification in
Florida High School sports, so he is playing in very good competition. Should be a good addition to this class.

Thank you for correcting my mistake, I cut & pasted the info from a recruiting board.

GreenPuddleSplash · Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:00 pm

Welcome Mr. Wiggins! Roll wave! I think we found one of our potential pitchman! WF's vision is slowly coming together...

GreenPuddleSplash · Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:03 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:Wow. I hope we did not recruit him as a QB because he does not appear to have D1A passing ability.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3183138/574 ... 247c78e643

I really doubt we recruited him as a pocket passer type of qb... If he has offers from Army and Navy, I think you can read between the lines on what type of QB he is

jonathanjoseph · Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:11 pm

GreenPuddleSplash wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:Wow. I hope we did not recruit him as a QB because he does not appear to have D1A passing ability.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3183138/574 ... 247c78e643
I really doubt we recruited him as a pocket passer type of qb... If he has offers from Army and Navy, I think you can read between the lines on what type of QB he is

There's a middle ground between a pocket passer and an option QB who isn't a threat to throw at all. Cuillette and Bradwell are having enough problems and they were passing threats in high school.

Aberzombie1892 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:22 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:There's a middle ground between a pocket passer and an option QB who isn't a threat to throw at all. Cuillette and Bradwell are having enough problems and they were passing threats in high school.

Some of this. It looks like their are two tiers of Dual Threat QBs - the first tier can both pass and run and the second tier can run but barely pass. Tulane seems to be stockpiling QBs in the second tier, while many P5s and even many of our conference mates are recruiting QBs from the first tier. I mean geez, Dane Ledford, our other QB signee is rated the 105th best Pro QB, and Kaylan will probably land within a stones throw from that rank. That's fine - I guess - as long as Fritz is our coach and he plans to rush over 2/3s of the time, but, if that philosophy ever changes or we get a new coach, we are in trouble on the QB front.

jonathanjoseph · Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:32 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:There's a middle ground between a pocket passer and an option QB who isn't a threat to throw at all. Cuillette and Bradwell are having enough problems and they were passing threats in high school.
Some of this. It looks like their are two tiers of Dual Threat QBs - the first tier can both pass and run and the second tier can run but barely pass. Tulane seems to be stockpiling QBs in the second tier, while many P5s and even many of our conference mates are recruiting QBs from the first tier. I mean geez, Dane Ledford, our other QB signee is rated the 105th best Pro QB, and Kaylan will probably land within a stones throw from that rank. That's fine - I guess - as long as Fritz is our coach and he plans to rush over 2/3s of the time, but, if that philosophy ever changes or we get a new coach, we are in trouble on the QB front.

A duel threat QB is, by it's very definition, a QB who can both run and pass. If a QB can barely pass, they are a running/option QB and not what we should be recruiting.

winwave · Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:49 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:There's a middle ground between a pocket passer and an option QB who isn't a threat to throw at all. Cuillette and Bradwell are having enough problems and they were passing threats in high school.
Some of this. It looks like their are two tiers of Dual Threat QBs - the first tier can both pass and run and the second tier can run but barely pass. Tulane seems to be stockpiling QBs in the second tier, while many P5s and even many of our conference mates are recruiting QBs from the first tier. I mean geez, Dane Ledford, our other QB signee is rated the 105th best Pro QB, and Kaylan will probably land within a stones throw from that rank. That's fine - I guess - as long as Fritz is our coach and he plans to rush over 2/3s of the time, but, if that philosophy ever changes or we get a new coach, we are in trouble on the QB front.

Ledford was recruited by Tulane as an athlete. There are indications that is what Wiggins has been recruited as too. In a very recent interview with Guerry Smith WF indicated we are going to throw the ball a lot more like he did at SHSU. He feels good about the progress the QB's have made this summer.

Aberzombie1892 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:10 pm

Unless Wiggins was lied to in the recruiting process, it seems like he will be a QB for us. He had his heart set on being a QB and Tulane recruited him to play that position.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html

nawlinspete · Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:18 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:Unless Wiggins was lied to in the recruiting process, it seems like he will be a QB for us. He had his heart set on being a QB and Tulane recruited him to play that position.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html

Another happy talk misspeak from winwave who thinks he is the cat's meow since having his name drawn out of a hat.

Jaxwave · Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:20 pm

Family a class act. Good pedigree.

RobertM320 · Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:31 pm

I know there's no way to really know, but if you look at the type of players we're bringing in, it might be a matter of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. These are all smart, high character type of guys. If he can get them playing together, maybe even with a chip on their shoulder for not being highly rated, we could be pleasantly surprised.

winwave · Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:56 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:Unless Wiggins was lied to in the recruiting process, it seems like he will be a QB for us. He had his heart set on being a QB and Tulane recruited him to play that position.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html

I was referring to what was said in the 5th paragraph. Others that were looking at him talked to him about switching. He will most certainly get a shot at QB here but history shows how many have switched after getting their shot initially. He really has good moves and if he doesn't pan out at QB he could be moved to RB or WR.

winwave · Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:18 pm

Earlier article w/him talking of playing other positions in college:

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#secti ... -87072352/

Aberzombie1892 · Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:32 am

Even including Wiggins, we've just fallen to #11 in the AAC (#95 Nationally). I'm still uneasy about being the best offer (depending about how you feel about service academies) the vast majority of our commits have, including Wiggins.

http://tulane.247sports.com/Season/2017 ... ll/Commits

mbawavefan12 · Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:08 am

RobertM320 wrote:I know there's no way to really know, but if you look at the type of players we're bringing in, it might be a matter of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. These are all smart, high character type of guys. If he can get them playing together, maybe even with a chip on their shoulder for not being highly rated, we could be pleasantly surprised.

Clearly a smart kid. Good size 6'3 200#'s but I am really concerned that we are recruiting too much to academics and what appears to be QBs setup for the traditional option offense.

Maybe the staff hopes to catch a kid with tons of potential who they can move to another position if need be (seems like a perfect fit for a DB). Not the most comforting recruiting season so far.

Welcome aboard.

GreenPuddleSplash · Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:25 am

mbawavefan12 wrote:
RobertM320 wrote:I know there's no way to really know, but if you look at the type of players we're bringing in, it might be a matter of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. These are all smart, high character type of guys. If he can get them playing together, maybe even with a chip on their shoulder for not being highly rated, we could be pleasantly surprised.

Clearly a smart kid. Good size 6'3 200#'s but I am really concerned that we are recruiting too much to academics and what appears to be QBs setup for the traditional option offense.

Maybe the staff hopes to catch a kid with tons of potential who they can move to another position if need be (seems like a perfect fit for a DB). Not the most comforting recruiting season so far.

Welcome aboard.

I don't mind WF gobbling up quarterbacks even if they are low rated/ not rated. I'm not saying he's taking a page from Bill Walsh, but that was one of his methods when he recruited at the college level... If they didn't work out at QB, they could surely be taught to be successful at another position.

mbawavefan12 · Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:37 am

Just watched the tape, kid looks like a real athlete, especially for his size.

wave97 · Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:41 am

mbawavefan12 wrote:
RobertM320 wrote:I know there's no way to really know, but if you look at the type of players we're bringing in, it might be a matter of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. These are all smart, high character type of guys. If he can get them playing together, maybe even with a chip on their shoulder for not being highly rated, we could be pleasantly surprised.

Clearly a smart kid. Good size 6'3 200#'s but I am really concerned that we are recruiting too much to academics and what appears to be QBs setup for the traditional option offense.

Maybe the staff hopes to catch a kid with tons of potential who they can move to another position if need be (seems like a perfect fit for a DB). Not the most comforting recruiting season so far.

Welcome aboard.

Not one of our QB recruits has come from a veer/bone "traditional option" offense and as for academics; "Knowledge is Good." - Emil Faber