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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby DfromCT » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:58 pm

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RobertM320 wrote:Abraham has committed to Louisiana Tech. Guess even LSU was too run-centric for his liking.

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IF (and that's a big IF) we really think this is the young man that can run Fritz's offense, we should be on him like white on rice. We need a good QB, one that can, with this offense, make up for a lot of O-line deficiencies. With this offense, you only need to win a battle designed to be won at the point of attack. If run properly and with the right personnel, it's very, very difficult to stop. That's why I think NEXT year is the make or break year for Fritz. I still stand by my prediction of somehow winning 6 this year, but the turnover needed in the roster to run this offense isn't going to happen quickly.


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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby GreenLantern » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:03 pm

DfromCT wrote:IF (and that's a big IF) we really think this is the young man that can run Fritz's offense, we should be on him like white on rice. We need a good QB, one that can, with this offense, make up for a lot of O-line deficiencies. With this offense, you only need to win a battle designed to be won at the point of attack. If run properly and with the right personnel, it's very, very difficult to stop. That's why I think NEXT year is the make or break year for Fritz. I still stand by my prediction of somehow winning 6 this year, but the turnover needed in the roster to run this offense isn't going to happen quickly.


Abraham decommitted from Tulane immediately after Fritz was announced as head coach. There were rumors that he was encouraged to leave by the new staff. That train has left the station.



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Re: Three Star QB Jack Abraham

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:19 pm

It's highly unlikely that Tulane will land a strong passer like Abraham (CJs crown jewel commit) until Fritz shows that his offense can work with significantly more passing than it showed last year. No good high school passer wants to join a program that doesn't pass much.



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Re: Three Star QB Jack Abraham

Postby DrBox » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:00 am

Aberzombie1892 wrote:It's highly unlikely that Tulane will land a strong passer like Abraham (CJs crown jewel commit) until Fritz shows that his offense can work with significantly more passing than it showed last year. No good high school passer wants to join a program that doesn't pass much.

Tulane passes the ball. We need a QB who can also run.
That's why Tulane let him go.
La Tech is the perfect offense for him, and yet, he left there too..........maybe he can get to Rice or somewhere - he wanted to go to an academic school in the first place.



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Re: Three Star QB Jack Abraham

Postby HoustonWave » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:01 pm

DrBox wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:It's highly unlikely that Tulane will land a strong passer like Abraham (CJs crown jewel commit) until Fritz shows that his offense can work with significantly more passing than it showed last year. No good high school passer wants to join a program that doesn't pass much.

Tulane passes the ball. We need a QB who can also run.
That's why Tulane let him go.
La Tech is the perfect offense for him, and yet, he left there too..........maybe he can get to Rice or somewhere - he wanted to go to an academic school in the first place.


Abraham always struck me as a lesser version of Tanner Lee. And now that Abraham has bombed out at La Tech, I doubt he'll ever be a Tanner Lee. Neither Tanner, Abraham, or any immobile QB has any chance behind Tulane's leaky O line. I have more confidence that our O line might be able to run block, far more than they will ever be able to pass block. Abraham would have just been another CJ washout.


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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby DfromCT » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:15 pm

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DfromCT wrote:IF (and that's a big IF) we really think this is the young man that can run Fritz's offense, we should be on him like white on rice. We need a good QB, one that can, with this offense, make up for a lot of O-line deficiencies. With this offense, you only need to win a battle designed to be won at the point of attack. If run properly and with the right personnel, it's very, very difficult to stop. That's why I think NEXT year is the make or break year for Fritz. I still stand by my prediction of somehow winning 6 this year, but the turnover needed in the roster to run this offense isn't going to happen quickly.


Abraham decommitted from Tulane immediately after Fritz was announced as head coach. There were rumors that he was encouraged to leave by the new staff. That train has left the station.


I thought he was more of an athletic QB than a pocket passer, but I could be wrong. I also thought he didn't de-commit until he got an offer from LSU.


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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby DrBox » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:58 pm

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I thought he was more of an athletic QB than a pocket passer, but I could be wrong. I also thought he didn't de-commit until he got an offer from LSU.

He decommited due to an LSU offer, but then went to La Tech? He never got a LSU offer. He wanted to come to Tulane. He wasn't a fit.
I'm not so sure he bombed out at La Tech either. He was the backup.



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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby DfromCT » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:51 am

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I thought he was more of an athletic QB than a pocket passer, but I could be wrong. I also thought he didn't de-commit until he got an offer from LSU.

He decommited due to an LSU offer, but then went to La Tech? He never got a LSU offer. He wanted to come to Tulane. He wasn't a fit.
I'm not so sure he bombed out at La Tech either. He was the backup.


Somehow, I've mistaken him for a different recruit. His recruiting profiles list him as a pro-style QB, which would indicate a pocket-passer type, which is not a fit in this offense. Somebody ELSE said he bombed at La Tech, not me.


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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby HoustonWave » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:18 am

DfromCT wrote:
DrBox wrote:
DfromCT wrote:
I thought he was more of an athletic QB than a pocket passer, but I could be wrong. I also thought he didn't de-commit until he got an offer from LSU.

He decommited due to an LSU offer, but then went to La Tech? He never got a LSU offer. He wanted to come to Tulane. He wasn't a fit.
I'm not so sure he bombed out at La Tech either. He was the backup.


Somehow, I've mistaken him for a different recruit. His recruiting profiles list him as a pro-style QB, which would indicate a pocket-passer type, which is not a fit in this offense. Somebody ELSE said he bombed at La Tech, not me.


From the videos of his senior year, he was definitely a pocket passer. From watching his videos, one of the main reasons his team made it to the Mississippi state championship game was that there were a couple of outstanding WRs on that team. I wish we could have signed on of them.


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Re: Tulane Picks Up Three Star QB in Jack Abraham

Postby RobertM320 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:27 am

DfromCT wrote:
GreenLantern wrote:
DfromCT wrote:IF (and that's a big IF) we really think this is the young man that can run Fritz's offense, we should be on him like white on rice. We need a good QB, one that can, with this offense, make up for a lot of O-line deficiencies. With this offense, you only need to win a battle designed to be won at the point of attack. If run properly and with the right personnel, it's very, very difficult to stop. That's why I think NEXT year is the make or break year for Fritz. I still stand by my prediction of somehow winning 6 this year, but the turnover needed in the roster to run this offense isn't going to happen quickly.


Abraham decommitted from Tulane immediately after Fritz was announced as head coach. There were rumors that he was encouraged to leave by the new staff. That train has left the station.


I thought he was more of an athletic QB than a pocket passer, but I could be wrong. I also thought he didn't de-commit until he got an offer from LSU.



You might be thinking of Lindsey Scott. He never had actually committed to us, but as soon as the LSU offer came out, he jumped at it. He was a big target for Fritz year one, but it didn't happen. Abraham de committed after Fritz was hired, because the offense wasn't compatible with his style.


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Re: Three Star QB Jack Abraham

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:44 am

Yeah 6'0 Abraham was a strong passer that was overlooked by elite programs because of his height - not unlike 6'0 Devante Kincade and 5'11 Lindsay Scott. Jack would have been a great passer, but, as other posters have mentioned, he would not have fit into what Fritz appears to want to do since Fritz appears to care more about athletic ability than traditional passing ability and traditional measurements.

As a side note, Tulane should just target elite QBs under 6'2, as it would dramatically decrease the competition with elite P5s. One could argue that LSU still signed Lindsay Scott, but (1) he was never going to start under Miles and probably won't ever start under Orgeron and (2) he was only signed because LSU struck out on all of its QB targets and its fanbase would have revolted without a QB being signed.



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