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Postby winwave » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:00 pm

Glad others are recognizing his talents. Can't believe some said all he gets is garbage baskets. With good coaching he can become a real force.


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He is by far the MVP of this season!


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I don't know about MVP but he's bee a real pleasant surprise



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Need to keep signing guys like him.


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winwave wrote:Glad others are recognizing his talents. Can't believe some said all he gets is garbage baskets. With good coaching he can become a real force.

He had a monster jam that tied the Cincy game at 47.



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Postby MicMan » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:14 am

winwave wrote:Glad others are recognizing his talents. Can't believe some said all he gets is garbage baskets. With good coaching he can become a real force.


Where, at TU? Because Conroy has been turning out All-American big men.



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Postby TXWave88 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:00 am

He needs to get more minutes than the starters. He may be getting more minutes actually, but I am not sure why he comes off the bench. Is it a foul trouble issue or is it to create a spark? At our current state, we don't have the ability to hold guys on the bench to come in and create a spark. We are not the San Antonio Spurs with a Manu Giniobili.

He has impressed me. He is the only big guy we have on the roster that has good feet and a soft touch. The most obvious difference between Tulane and the top teams in the AAC is the athleticism of the big guys. Our big guys are not athletic whatsoever. We have some statues out there. None of our bigs can get off the ground or move their feet fast enough so they have to work twice as hard on defense and rebounds. It has been real obvious against the top conference opponents. That is what we need and hopefully that's what we get with this class. Of course that is like the golden unicorn to ncaa recruiting, but we definitely need improvement there.



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TXWave88 wrote:He needs to get more minutes than the starters. He may be getting more minutes actually, but I am not sure why he comes off the bench. Is it a foul trouble issue or is it to create a spark? At our current state, we don't have the ability to hold guys on the bench to come in and create a spark. We are not the San Antonio Spurs with a Manu Giniobili.

He has impressed me. He is the only big guy we have on the roster that has good feet and a soft touch. The most obvious difference between Tulane and the top teams in the AAC is the athleticism of the big guys. Our big guys are not athletic whatsoever. We have some statues out there. None of our bigs can get off the ground or move their feet fast enough so they have to work twice as hard on defense and rebounds. It has been real obvious against the top conference opponents. That is what we need and hopefully that's what we get with this class. Of course that is like the golden unicorn to ncaa recruiting, but we definitely need improvement there.


He started a few games and didn't respond well so EC gave up on the idea. We need someone to help once we take out a few starters.

BTW, Henson can move but he is more of a stretch 4. I respect the sacrifices that student athletes have to make, but Smith is not an AAC caliber player, he might not even be a D1 athlete.



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Postby winwave » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:25 am

TXWave88 wrote:He needs to get more minutes than the starters. He may be getting more minutes actually, but I am not sure why he comes off the bench. Is it a foul trouble issue or is it to create a spark? At our current state, we don't have the ability to hold guys on the bench to come in and create a spark. We are not the San Antonio Spurs with a Manu Giniobili.

He has impressed me. He is the only big guy we have on the roster that has good feet and a soft touch. The most obvious difference between Tulane and the top teams in the AAC is the athleticism of the big guys. Our big guys are not athletic whatsoever. We have some statues out there. None of our bigs can get off the ground or move their feet fast enough so they have to work twice as hard on defense and rebounds. It has been real obvious against the top conference opponents. That is what we need and hopefully that's what we get with this class. Of course that is like the golden unicorn to ncaa recruiting, but we definitely need improvement there.


He will start tonight for the second game in a row so that issue has finally been dealt with.


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He gets the most mins. at his position. He's started in the past but didn't do as well as coming off the bench. Smith is just too slow and can't score around the basket when guarded. O does tend to get in foul trouble though.


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winwave wrote:
TXWave88 wrote:He needs to get more minutes than the starters. He may be getting more minutes actually, but I am not sure why he comes off the bench. Is it a foul trouble issue or is it to create a spark? At our current state, we don't have the ability to hold guys on the bench to come in and create a spark. We are not the San Antonio Spurs with a Manu Giniobili.

He has impressed me. He is the only big guy we have on the roster that has good feet and a soft touch. The most obvious difference between Tulane and the top teams in the AAC is the athleticism of the big guys. Our big guys are not athletic whatsoever. We have some statues out there. None of our bigs can get off the ground or move their feet fast enough so they have to work twice as hard on defense and rebounds. It has been real obvious against the top conference opponents. That is what we need and hopefully that's what we get with this class. Of course that is like the golden unicorn to ncaa recruiting, but we definitely need improvement there.


He will start tonight for the second game in a row so that issue has finally been dealt with.


Yeah, but it's not great that it took us until almost March to figure out who should start at center, especially when most of us armchair types were able to see it from a mile away.



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jonathanjoseph wrote:
winwave wrote:
TXWave88 wrote:He needs to get more minutes than the starters. He may be getting more minutes actually, but I am not sure why he comes off the bench. Is it a foul trouble issue or is it to create a spark? At our current state, we don't have the ability to hold guys on the bench to come in and create a spark. We are not the San Antonio Spurs with a Manu Giniobili.

He has impressed me. He is the only big guy we have on the roster that has good feet and a soft touch. The most obvious difference between Tulane and the top teams in the AAC is the athleticism of the big guys. Our big guys are not athletic whatsoever. We have some statues out there. None of our bigs can get off the ground or move their feet fast enough so they have to work twice as hard on defense and rebounds. It has been real obvious against the top conference opponents. That is what we need and hopefully that's what we get with this class. Of course that is like the golden unicorn to ncaa recruiting, but we definitely need improvement there.


He will start tonight for the second game in a row so that issue has finally been dealt with.


Yeah, but it's not great that it took us until almost March to figure out who should start at center, especially when most of us armchair types were able to see it from a mile away.


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Osetkowski has the 4th highest mins on the team. 21.3 per game. That's all that matters. Smith has 11 mins a game. If you're in the top 5 in minutes you are no different than a starter in basketball. He gets in foul trouble that's why he usually doesn't start. We need him in the game more at the end. He has done better coming off the bench than starting so far.


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Postby jonathanjoseph » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:33 pm

tpstulane wrote:Osetkowski has the 4th highest mins on the team. 21.3 per game. That's all that matters. Smith has 11 mins a game. If you're in the top 5 in minutes you are no different than a starter in basketball. He gets in foul trouble that's why he usually doesn't start. We need him in the game more at the end. He has done better coming off the bench than starting so far.


He's been substituted out a number of times in crunch time in games that I've seen. Managing the lineup and player rotations seem to be a clear weak spot for Conroy.



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Postby DrBox » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:57 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:
tpstulane wrote:Osetkowski has the 4th highest mins on the team. 21.3 per game. That's all that matters. Smith has 11 mins a game. If you're in the top 5 in minutes you are no different than a starter in basketball. He gets in foul trouble that's why he usually doesn't start. We need him in the game more at the end. He has done better coming off the bench than starting so far.


He's been substituted out a number of times in crunch time in games that I've seen. Managing the lineup and player rotations seem to be a clear weak spot for Conroy.

Only for defense; they sub Hearlihy or Henson in on D in the last 2 minutes.
In the Cincy game, O was pulled after Cincy's last Timeout; Henson slipped the screen then inexplicably left his man who then grabbed a pass for an easy layup; drye came over for weakside help but it was too late.
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It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.


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winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.



Also, someone has to fill minutes at center when DO is not in, rather have smith playing with the starters and taking up space but not having to perform offensively. Him playing with non starters will make his deficiencies look worse, just a thought.



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jonathanjoseph wrote:
tpstulane wrote:Osetkowski has the 4th highest mins on the team. 21.3 per game. That's all that matters. Smith has 11 mins a game. If you're in the top 5 in minutes you are no different than a starter in basketball. He gets in foul trouble that's why he usually doesn't start. We need him in the game more at the end. He has done better coming off the bench than starting so far.


He's been substituted out a number of times in crunch time in games that I've seen. Managing the lineup and player rotations seem to be a clear weak spot for Conroy.

That's the offense/defense substitution that all coaches do in the last two min. Some guys are brought in just to commit fouls.


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mbawavefan12 wrote:
winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.



Also, someone has to fill minutes at center when DO is not in, rather have smith playing with the starters and taking up space but not having to perform offensively. Him playing with non starters will make his deficiencies look worse, just a thought.


Good point.


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winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.

Drye has more fouls because he's played more mins. Osetkowski leads the team in games fouled out at 2 and he only plays half the game. He avgs 4.31 fouls per 40 mins. And that leads the team.
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tpstulane wrote:
winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.

Drye has more fouls because he's played more mins. Osetkowski leads the team in games fouled out at 2 and he only plays half the game.


Drye plays 3 minutes more a game. He's only fouled out twice. We have several others who fouled out once. He averages less than 2.5 fouls per game. It's not part of the equation as to why he wasn't a starter sooner.


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tpstulane wrote:
winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.

Drye has more fouls because he's played more mins. Osetkowski leads the team in games fouled out at 2 and he only plays half the game.


Drye plays 3 minutes more a game. He's only fouled out twice. We have several others who fouled out once. It's not part of the equation as to why he wasn't a starter sooner.

It's part of the reason. He avgs 4.31 fouls per 40 mins. That's the highest on the team. That's why EC has to be careful with when he plays. Needs him more at the end of games.


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I don't mind him coming off the bench because as tps said he's getting the most minutes. That's what matters, and we need him out there with the second unit because there's not enough scoring without him.



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tpstulane wrote:
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tpstulane wrote:
winwave wrote:It probably was done initially b/c Smith had been here a year and had some experience. I'm not agreeing w/that rationale but just saying what was probably going through EC's mind. It also allowed him to watch and learn before going in. It doesn't have anything to do w/foul trouble. Drye has more fouls than him. He commits less than 3 fouls per game. He should have been inserted long before now. Hopefully it pays off at the end here.

Drye has more fouls because he's played more mins. Osetkowski leads the team in games fouled out at 2 and he only plays half the game.


Drye plays 3 minutes more a game. He's only fouled out twice. We have several others who fouled out once. It's not part of the equation as to why he wasn't a starter sooner.

It's part of the reason. He avgs 4.31 fouls per 40 mins. That's the highest on the team. That's why EC has to be careful with when he plays. Needs him more at the end of games.


Drye would be averaging almost as many and he has started all year.


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