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Postby jonathanjoseph » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:48 pm

Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game
He's turned heads and was the talk of the game this week. Spoke to an draft analyst yesterday who said this week might get Griffin drafted.

A sober reminder that a 2 win team must replace a potential NFL QB.



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Postby tnelly15 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:00 pm

Griffin may have Nfl potential, but he was wildly inconsistent his whole career. For every Uab/ SMU type performance he gave us we got a couple of Memphis or Houston games.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby AugWave » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:08 pm

tnelly15 wrote:Griffin may have Nfl potential, but he was wildly inconsistent his whole career. For every Uab/ SMU type performance he gave us we got a couple of Memphis or Houston games.


Pretty much, but good for him. I hope he does get a chance. We saw what decent coaching can do to his career. He broke records this past year. Imagine if we actually had an OL last year...

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Postby Krewe of Ham & Eggs » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:21 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:He's turned heads and was the talk of the game this week. Spoke to an draft analyst yesterday who said this week might get Griffin drafted.

A sober reminder that a 2 win team must replace a potential NFL QB.

Yeah his name is Nick Montana, who knows the final outcome but I feel better about our QB situation than I did before


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Postby tnelly15 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:29 pm

Hopefully we see a much improved OL and running game which should really help Montana.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby Ray » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:32 pm

Nice game Ryan ..... Congrats!!



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby jonathanjoseph » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:35 pm

tnelly15 wrote:Griffin may have Nfl potential, but he was wildly inconsistent his whole career. For every Uab/ SMU type performance he gave us we got a couple of Memphis or Houston games.


You aren't getting the connection. It speaks poorly of our program that:

1) an NFL caliber QB could only get the team to 2 wins when an NFL caliber QB should be able to get any CUSA team to .500

2) This would be the 2nd straight year where the program had been so poor as to make NFL talent disappear off the radar screen (see: Moses, Dezman).



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby jonathanjoseph » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:37 pm

Krewe of Ham & Eggs wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:He's turned heads and was the talk of the game this week. Spoke to an draft analyst yesterday who said this week might get Griffin drafted.

A sober reminder that a 2 win team must replace a potential NFL QB.

Yeah his name is Nick Montana, who knows the final outcome but I feel better about our QB situation than I did before


Very true but let's be honest. Without Montana we'd be staring at another 2-3 win season. We'll have to see how good he is.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby Krewe of Ham & Eggs » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:45 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:
Krewe of Ham & Eggs wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:He's turned heads and was the talk of the game this week. Spoke to an draft analyst yesterday who said this week might get Griffin drafted.

A sober reminder that a 2 win team must replace a potential NFL QB.

Yeah his name is Nick Montana, who knows the final outcome but I feel better about our QB situation than I did before


Very true but let's be honest. Without Montana we'd be staring at another 2-3 win season. We'll have to see how good he is.

Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with you, while we don't know what he can do yet we definitely I feel we have the potential for a season that has more than 2 wins


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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby tnelly15 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:07 pm

You aren't getting the connection. It speaks poorly of our program that:
1) an NFL caliber QB could only get the team to 2 wins when an NFL caliber QB should be able to get any CUSA team to .500

2) This would be the 2nd straight year where the program had been so poor as to make NFL talent disappear off the radar screen (see: Moses, Dezman).


1) Yes, our program has sucked for quite some time now. Who's arguing against that? Did we really need to make this thread about that and not about Griffin? 2) How have they disappeared off the radar screen? Griffin was invited to an all-star game and won the MVP. This new coaching staff actually put Griffin on the radar.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby winwave » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:51 pm

Congrats Ryan. I posted a few weeks back that Mike Detillier was on 4th Down on 4 and thought he could be alate round pick to the Saints.


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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby AugWave » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:31 pm

tnelly15 wrote:
You aren't getting the connection. It speaks poorly of our program that:
1) an NFL caliber QB could only get the team to 2 wins when an NFL caliber QB should be able to get any CUSA team to .500

2) This would be the 2nd straight year where the program had been so poor as to make NFL talent disappear off the radar screen (see: Moses, Dezman).


1) Yes, our program has sucked for quite some time now. Who's arguing against that? Did we really need to make this thread about that and not about Griffin? 2) How have they disappeared off the radar screen? Griffin was invited to an all-star game and won the MVP. This new coaching staff actually put Griffin on the radar.


Thank you sir.


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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby OUG » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:23 pm

tnelly15 wrote:
You aren't getting the connection. It speaks poorly of our program that:
1) an NFL caliber QB could only get the team to 2 wins when an NFL caliber QB should be able to get any CUSA team to .500

2) This would be the 2nd straight year where the program had been so poor as to make NFL talent disappear off the radar screen (see: Moses, Dezman).


1) Yes, our program has sucked for quite some time now. Who's arguing against that? Did we really need to make this thread about that and not about Griffin? 2) How have they disappeared off the radar screen? Griffin was invited to an all-star game and won the MVP. This new coaching staff actually put Griffin on the radar.


I feel confident that not only would JJ be a better athletic director than RD, he'd be a better FB coach than CJ and probably have Ryan in the first round. Everyone associated with Tulane are idiots. /thread



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Postby Green Wave » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:56 pm

Gratz Ryan.

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Postby DrBox » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:51 am

tnelly15 wrote:
You aren't getting the connection. It speaks poorly of our program that:
1) an NFL caliber QB could only get the team to 2 wins when an NFL caliber QB should be able to get any CUSA team to .500

2) This would be the 2nd straight year where the program had been so poor as to make NFL talent disappear off the radar screen (see: Moses, Dezman).


1) Yes, our program has sucked for quite some time now. Who's arguing against that? Did we really need to make this thread about that and not about Griffin? 2) How have they disappeared off the radar screen? Griffin was invited to an all-star game and won the MVP. This new coaching staff actually put Griffin on the radar.

Well said.
Heck our last bowl season was immediately preceded by a 3-8 team that suffered numerous blowout losses behind a QB that would be drafted in the first round the April following the 3 win season.



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Postby Eaglewave » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:30 am

OUG doesn't think much of CJ.


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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby Green Wave » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:04 pm

Tulane QBs getting a shot at the pros:

Shaun King (1995-98)
Patrick Ramsey (1998-2001)
J P Loosman (1999-2003)
Lester Ricard (2004-2006) (went to Training camp played preseason as a free agent but never made the team in the end.)

and now possibly Ryan Griffin. (2008-2012)

I do not think this is a bad thing. Recruiting wise it wont be in the future if Griffin makes it to the pros. It will say hey QBs we run a pro style offense that will get you noticed. Look at all of our QBs that got to take a shot at the big time. This might have been brought up when we recruited Montana.
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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby DrBox » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:59 pm

Eaglewave wrote:OUG doesn't think much of CJ.

Sarcasm, my man.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby jonathanjoseph » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:59 pm

Well, super. Here's a great scouting report on Ryan Griffin with more than a few jabs taken at the quality of Tulane's program. I hope we start changing the perception soon.

http://bit.ly/XbQ03E



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby OUG » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:25 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:Well, super. Here's a great scouting report on Ryan Griffin with more than a few jabs taken at the quality of Tulane's program. I hope we start changing the perception soon.

http://bit.ly/XbQ03E


It's a good article. If you say it's taking jabs at our program to say we were a losing team with little talent, I will disagree. That's just a fact, not a jab. We just fired our coach a year ago.

This is a frustration I have with you and a few others here who turn everything into something that supports your agenda. The scouting report you link is a rave review of our QB's NFL potential. It does not mention Rick Dickson, Yulman stadium, Scott Cowen, or even Bob Toledo or CJ. And yet you spin the article as a negative for Tulane. The article says Griffin played on a bad team. Guess what? Griffin played on a bad team. We all want Tulane to get better, not just you; we just don't need to have a flippin' existential crisis every time an article states the fact that we were 2-10 the last two years.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby jonathanjoseph » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:33 pm

OUG wrote:
jonathanjoseph wrote:Well, super. Here's a great scouting report on Ryan Griffin with more than a few jabs taken at the quality of Tulane's program. I hope we start changing the perception soon.

http://bit.ly/XbQ03E


It's a good article. If you say it's taking jabs at our program to say we were a losing team with little talent, I will disagree. That's just a fact, not a jab. We just fired our coach a year ago.

This is a frustration I have with you and a few others here who turn everything into something that supports your agenda. The scouting report you link is a rave review of our QB's NFL potential. It does not mention Rick Dickson, Yulman stadium, Scott Cowen, or even Bob Toledo or CJ. And yet you spin the article as a negative for Tulane. The article says Griffin played on a bad team. Guess what? Griffin played on a bad team. We all want Tulane to get better, not just you; we just don't need to have a flippin' existential crisis every time an article states the fact that we were 2-10 the last two years.


You are confusing an agenda with a frustration associated with reality.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby OUG » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:59 pm

We're all frustrated, not just you. But the article was not about Tulane being some kind of football embarrassment. It was merely that not coming from a winning, NC caliber program, a kid like Griffin has to overcome a lot because of the way NFL management approaches drafting QBs in particular. This is great for Griffin and great for Tulane that he is getting props. Everything that mentions our record doesn't have to be something we flagellate ourselves over for another bite at the "woe is us"/"lets hang Cowen" apple



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Postby Ruski » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:09 pm

jonathanjoseph wrote:Well, super. Here's a great scouting report on Ryan Griffin with more than a few jabs taken at the quality of Tulane's program. I hope we start changing the perception soon.

http://bit.ly/XbQ03E


Awesome, I recommend spending the time to read this all the way through



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby jonathanjoseph » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:17 pm

OUG wrote:We're all frustrated, not just you. But the article was not about Tulane being some kind of football embarrassment. It was merely that not coming from a winning, NC caliber program, a kid like Griffin has to overcome a lot because of the way NFL management approaches drafting QBs in particular. This is great for Griffin and great for Tulane that he is getting props. Everything that mentions our record doesn't have to be something we flagellate ourselves over for another bite at the "woe is us"/"lets hang Cowen" apple


Um, it did not refer to our record as a matter or fact or in passing. The gist of the article is to discuss the affects of a losing program, like Tulane, on scouting. We're almost 3 years from the Playbook and we're still being referred to as "routinely overmatched" and we have to replace a NFL caliber QB, so 2013 doesn't look like a bowl season either.



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Re: Ryan Griffin MVP of Texas vs Nation Game

Postby tnelly15 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:31 pm

I honestly don't think the drop off from Griffin to Montana will be too significant.



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