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Tulane72 wrote:Mack Brown related the story about when he was at Tulane Darryl Royal and several others were there as advisers to evaluate the Tulane's program. Everyone but Darryl Royal said he would be fine at Tulane but Royal told him "Boy, get the hell out of here as fast as you can." Now I was never a Mack Brown fan. Every time he can on televison and told the news media how the opposing team was going to kick their ass I wanted to throw something at the television. And he continues to beat on the almost dead Tulane. He truely was an a**hole. But let me tell you why I think this. When he was coaching why didn't he have the courage to challenge the adminstration on improving the department. He was an athletic director. If they fired him for fighting for his team then the administration would have to explain why they fired him. This could have have exposed the administration for who they are. But no he didn't care for Tulane while he was there and now he uses them for ridicule. The trouble is that this put down doesn't go towards the president or the athletic director or the board. It goes straight to the former players that actually won while they were there. I hate to put it crudely but many of the coaches, athelic directors and even former players lack the balls to stand up for what they know what is needed. I'm no hero but I'm willing to let people take shots at me to try and help the school I played for and won for. As an inspector for the space program I was threatened many times for standing up for what was right. I was told by managers that I was costing the program lots of money for holding them up. And this certainly was difficult to stand firm but in the end I was right and they couldn't say anything. I had engineers tell me I didn't know what I was talking about when I told them that their drawing or their procedure was faulty yet I got them to change their drawing and their procedure. I was even threatened physically by some drug head worker when I told him his work wasn't right. But it didn't matter I was going to do the right thing even if it meant I would get fired or possibly harmed. If I would have been weak and allowed things to get pass me how to you think I would have felt when I watched the first shuttle blew up. You never regret having the balls to stand up and fight what you believe. It's when you don't.

Tulane72 wrote:Mack Brown related the story about when he was at Tulane Darryl Royal and several others were there as advisers to evaluate the Tulane's program. Everyone but Darryl Royal said he would be fine at Tulane but Royal told him "Boy, get the hell out of here as fast as you can." Now I was never a Mack Brown fan. Every time he can on televison and told the news media how the opposing team was going to kick their ass I wanted to throw something at the television. And he continues to beat on the almost dead Tulane. He truely was an a**hole. But let me tell you why I think this. When he was coaching why didn't he have the courage to challenge the adminstration on improving the department. He was an athletic director. If they fired him for fighting for his team then the administration would have to explain why they fired him. This could have have exposed the administration for who they are. But no he didn't care for Tulane while he was there and now he uses them for ridicule. The trouble is that this put down doesn't go towards the president or the athletic director or the board. It goes straight to the former players that actually won while they were there. I hate to put it crudely but many of the coaches, athelic directors and even former players lack the balls to stand up for what they know what is needed. I'm no hero but I'm willing to let people take shots at me to try and help the school I played for and won for. As an inspector for the space program I was threatened many times for standing up for what was right. I was told by managers that I was costing the program lots of money for holding them up. And this certainly was difficult to stand firm but in the end I was right and they couldn't say anything. I had engineers tell me I didn't know what I was talking about when I told them that their drawing or their procedure was faulty yet I got them to change their drawing and their procedure. I was even threatened physically by some drug head worker when I told him his work wasn't right. But it didn't matter I was going to do the right thing even if it meant I would get fired or possibly harmed. If I would have been weak and allowed things to get pass me how to you think I would have felt when I watched the first shuttle blew up. You never regret having the balls to stand up and fight what you believe. It's when you don't.

winwave wrote: Great post. Our current coaches need to do the same. Instead of Conroy begging people to fill the gym just b/c he should be delivering the fans message to the administration that we want much better scheduling. Just one example. We just have too many among us who are fine w/stepping down.

tpstulane wrote:

winwave wrote: Great post. Our current coaches need to do the same. Instead of Conroy begging people to fill the gym just b/c he should be delivering the fans message to the administration that we want much better scheduling. Just one example. We just have too many among us who are fine w/stepping down.

You know, many people didn't like Chris Scelfo I guess because of the RR fiasco. But I was present in 2003 when he told Scott Cowen F_ck You to his face.
I still treasure that memory.

Charlie Dunn wrote:What caused scelfo to say that to cowen ans what's as cowens reaction?

sader24 wrote:Chris Scelfo just moved up a notch in my book.

sader24 wrote:Chris Scelfo just moved up a notch in my book.

tpstulane wrote:

winwave wrote: Great post. Our current coaches need to do the same. Instead of Conroy begging people to fill the gym just b/c he should be delivering the fans message to the administration that we want much better scheduling. Just one example. We just have too many among us who are fine w/stepping down.

You know, many people didn't like Chris Scelfo I guess because of the RR fiasco. But I was present in 2003 when he told Scott Cowen F_ck You to his face.
I still treasure that memory.

greenie78 wrote:That 2003 review sabotaged the solid work Scelfo was starting to do after the 2002 season, especially with wins and recruiting.

winwave wrote:

Tulane72 wrote:Mack Brown related the story about when he was at Tulane Darryl Royal and several others were there as advisers to evaluate the Tulane's program. Everyone but Darryl Royal said he would be fine at Tulane but Royal told him "Boy, get the hell out of here as fast as you can." Now I was never a Mack Brown fan. Every time he can on televison and told the news media how the opposing team was going to kick their ass I wanted to throw something at the television. And he continues to beat on the almost dead Tulane. He truely was an a**hole. But let me tell you why I think this. When he was coaching why didn't he have the courage to challenge the adminstration on improving the department. He was an athletic director. If they fired him for fighting for his team then the administration would have to explain why they fired him. This could have have exposed the administration for who they are. But no he didn't care for Tulane while he was there and now he uses them for ridicule. The trouble is that this put down doesn't go towards the president or the athletic director or the board. It goes straight to the former players that actually won while they were there. I hate to put it crudely but many of the coaches, athelic directors and even former players lack the balls to stand up for what they know what is needed. I'm no hero but I'm willing to let people take shots at me to try and help the school I played for and won for. As an inspector for the space program I was threatened many times for standing up for what was right. I was told by managers that I was costing the program lots of money for holding them up. And this certainly was difficult to stand firm but in the end I was right and they couldn't say anything. I had engineers tell me I didn't know what I was talking about when I told them that their drawing or their procedure was faulty yet I got them to change their drawing and their procedure. I was even threatened physically by some drug head worker when I told him his work wasn't right. But it didn't matter I was going to do the right thing even if it meant I would get fired or possibly harmed. If I would have been weak and allowed things to get pass me how to you think I would have felt when I watched the first shuttle blew up. You never regret having the balls to stand up and fight what you believe. It's when you don't.

Great post. Our current coaches need to do the same. Instead of Conroy begging people to fill the gym just b/c he should be delivering the fans message to the administration that we want much better scheduling. Just one example. We just have too many among us who are fine w/stepping down.

sader24 wrote:Chris Scelfo just moved up a notch in my book.

Bigschtick wrote:

sader24 wrote:Chris Scelfo just moved up a notch in my book.

big plus 1

golfnut69 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:23 am there were at least three "advisers" on the trip, two that I remember were.Royal, and the AD from ND...Royal told Mack he needed to go somepalce with "THE" in front of a "State"....

HoustonWave wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:17 am

golfnut69 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:23 am there were at least three "advisers" on the trip, two that I remember were.Royal, and the AD from ND...Royal told Mack he needed to go somepalce with "THE" in front of a "State"....

I don’t know what the contract between Tulane and the “advisors” said, but I have to believe that Daryl Royal violated it by telling Mack Brown to bail out to a “The” school. And remember, at that time, Mack Brown had been a journeyman coach. Even though he was AD and head coach and Tulane, he could care less about Tulane—we were just one more of his many stepping stones.

DfromCT wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:49 am This thread definitely gives me a better appreciation for Chris Scelfo, and drops Mack another notch. He took shots at Tulane long after leaving, and as outlined above, did nothing to fight "The Model".

Personally, I think UNC made a bad hire, much along the lines of Tulane hiring Toledo. That being said, Mack's assistants might bail him out.

Tulane72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:28 pm Mack Brown related the story about when he was at Tulane Darryl Royal and several others were there as advisers to evaluate the Tulane's program. Everyone but Darryl Royal said he would be fine at Tulane but Royal told him "Boy, get the hell out of here as fast as you can." Now I was never a Mack Brown fan. Every time he can on televison and told the news media how the opposing team was going to kick their ass I wanted to throw something at the television. And he continues to beat on the almost dead Tulane. He truely was an asshole. But let me tell you why I think this. When he was coaching why didn't he have the courage to challenge the adminstration on improving the department. He was an athletic director. If they fired him for fighting for his team then the administration would have to explain why they fired him. This could have have exposed the administration for who they are. But no he didn't care for Tulane while he was there and now he uses them for ridicule. The trouble is that this put down doesn't go towards the president or the athletic director or the board. It goes straight to the former players that actually won while they were there. I hate to put it crudely but many of the coaches, athelic directors and even former players lack the balls to stand up for what they know what is needed. I'm no hero but I'm willing to let people take shots at me to try and help the school I played for and won for. As an inspector for the space program I was threatened many times for standing up for what was right. I was told by managers that I was costing the program lots of money for holding them up. And this certainly was difficult to stand firm but in the end I was right and they couldn't say anything. I had engineers tell me I didn't know what I was talking about when I told them that their drawing or their procedure was faulty yet I got them to change their drawing and their procedure. I was even threatened physically by some drug head worker when I told him his work wasn't right. But it didn't matter I was going to do the right thing even if it meant I would get fired or possibly harmed. If I would have been weak and allowed things to get pass me how to you think I would have felt when I watched the first shuttle blew up. You never regret having the balls to stand up and fight what you believe. It's when you don't.
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I have known Mack Brown since his first assistant coaching position in the mid 70's.
He was my Brother's position coach for from 1975 to 1977. His time at Tulane was nothing more than a turnstile.