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Show Me wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:35 pm Pierce recruited Spoon and Zubia and both will be drafted. Zubia just decided to follow him to Texas. No way in hell does Pierce start last year 3-12.

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:44 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:12 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:04 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:35 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:40 am

winwave wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:23 am

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:09 am

winwave wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:59 am My point was he knew his streak was coming to an end here . I didn't say it was the only reason.

Yes he was the 12th choice.

He is a good coach. He can also recruit there. He had never dealt with the tuition issue as a HC and he did a poor job of recruiting here.

bullsh*t he knew it was coming to an end. That 2017 team was better than the 2015 team he brought to a regional. Plus, you don’t become as good of a coach as Pierce is by running away because you think things might get tough.
No chance that played any part in his decision.

Completely delusional.

I would say you’re delusional but it’s worse. You’re just dumb

How good or bad the 2017 Tulane team was going to be played exactly zero part in Pierce’s decision. To suggest otherwise is going full retard.
The 2017 team could have been a lock for Omaha and it would have made no difference. Pierce wasn’t turning down the Texas job.

I never said otherwise . What’s ignorant is you saying the 2017 team was better than 2015. We had nothing at catcher and SS. NOTHING. It’s also ignorant to say Pierce recruited well while he was here. He didn’t which has helped put us in the game hole we are in.

In 2015 we had a bunch of holes. We may have had a good SS and a good defensive Catcher, but offensively we were not a very talented group. We lacked ability on offense at almost every position.

You did say otherwise. You literally said the lack of talent is why Pierce was willing to be the 12th choice at Texas. These are your words: "clearly lacking in talent. It's why Pierce was willing to be the 12th choice by Texas. He knew his streak would be coming to an end here. One is delusional to think otherwise."

Please go ahead and tell us what you've heard about the recruiting class

What I was getting at is that it is delusional to say that he didn't think about his streak was going to end and it would have. That team had no one drafted. Make up all the excuses and stories you want but they just weren't that good. To say that Pierce and his staff don't bare some of the blame for our current situation is asinine.

The team had 2 players drafted.
It's delusional to think that he did think his streak was going to end. Guys like Pierce don't ever expect to lose.

winwave wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 10:15 pm

Show Me wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:35 pm Pierce recruited Spoon and Zubia and both will be drafted. Zubia just decided to follow him to Texas. No way in hell does Pierce start last year 3-12.

One player that came here. Not a team.

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am No one was drafted last year. Zubia never came here. So no it wasn't a talented team.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:19 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am No one was drafted last year. Zubia never came here. So no it wasn't a talented team.

You’re wrong. Ted Andrews and Corey Merrill were both drafted.
Andrews went to the White Sox and Merrill the Dodgers.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:19 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am No one was drafted last year. Zubia never came here. So no it wasn't a talented team.

You’re wrong. Ted Andrews and Corey Merrill were both drafted.
Andrews went to the White Sox and Merrill the Dodgers.

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

THEY WERE MISSING THE TWO PLAYERS THAT CARRIED THE TEAM. THOSE TWO PLAYERS ALSO PLAYED TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN BASEBALL. THIS IS COLLEGE. PLAYERS GRADUATE AND MOVE ON. THE GOOD ONE'S GET DRAFTED BEFORE THEY'RE SENIORS AND MOVE ON. SO DESPITE YOUR CLAIM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSTING A REGIONAL THEY WERE NOT THAT TALENTED A TEAM. THEY JUST WEREN'T. AS I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE HAD WINNING SEASONS THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REGIONAL WORTHY TEAMS.

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:38 am

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:19 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am No one was drafted last year. Zubia never came here. So no it wasn't a talented team.

You’re wrong. Ted Andrews and Corey Merrill were both drafted.
Andrews went to the White Sox and Merrill the Dodgers.

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OK. Andrews did what for us? Still not a talented team and doesn't change the fact that Pierce didn't recruit well while he was here.

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

THEY WERE MISSING THE TWO PLAYERS THAT CARRIED THE TEAM. THOSE TWO PLAYERS ALSO PLAYED TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN BASEBALL. THIS IS COLLEGE. PLAYERS GRADUATE AND MOVE ON. THE GOOD ONE'S GET DRAFTED BEFORE THEY'RE SENIORS AND MOVE ON. SO DESPITE YOUR CLAIM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSTING A REGIONAL THEY WERE NOT THAT TALENTED A TEAM. THEY JUST WEREN'T. AS I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE HAD WINNING SEASONS THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REGIONAL WORTHY TEAMS.

A huge stretch to say that Alemais and Rogers carried the team. They were the best pro prospects on the team but it’s not even clear that they were the best/most productive college baseball players on the team.
Your claim that all the good players get drafted before their senior season is ridiculous.
Corey Merrill was a very good college baseball player.
Hunter Williams was the best player in this conference a year ago. Never drafted.
The list goes on. There were a bunch of senior all conference performers in big time conferences last year.

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:16 am And, regardless of how many were or were not drafted, with that many upperclassmen on a team that went to a regional the year before, they should have been much better, with a chance to host, in 2017. Jewett even stated, multiple times, before the 2017 season started that he couldn't believe he inherited a team with that much veteran, upper class talent. Then they went out and $hit the bed. It's all about the coaching. PERIOD.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 10:38 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:38 am

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:19 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:16 am No one was drafted last year. Zubia never came here. So no it wasn't a talented team.

You’re wrong. Ted Andrews and Corey Merrill were both drafted.
Andrews went to the White Sox and Merrill the Dodgers.

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OK. Andrews did what for us? Still not a talented team and doesn't change the fact that Pierce didn't recruit well while he was here.

Another note:
Although not drafted out of high school JP France turned down 300k plus from Boston Red Sox and decided to enroll in school.
Jake Rogers turned down 250K from Tampa and decided to come to Tulane also.

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:23 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

THEY WERE MISSING THE TWO PLAYERS THAT CARRIED THE TEAM. THOSE TWO PLAYERS ALSO PLAYED TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN BASEBALL. THIS IS COLLEGE. PLAYERS GRADUATE AND MOVE ON. THE GOOD ONE'S GET DRAFTED BEFORE THEY'RE SENIORS AND MOVE ON. SO DESPITE YOUR CLAIM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSTING A REGIONAL THEY WERE NOT THAT TALENTED A TEAM. THEY JUST WEREN'T. AS I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE HAD WINNING SEASONS THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REGIONAL WORTHY TEAMS.

A huge stretch to say that Alemais and Rogers carried the team. They were the best pro prospects on the team but it’s not even clear that they were the best/most productive college baseball players on the team.
Your claim that all the good players get drafted before their senior season is ridiculous.
Corey Merrill was a very good college baseball player.
Hunter Williams was the best player in this conference a year ago. Never drafted.
The list goes on. There were a bunch of senior all conference performers in big time conferences last year.

They were clearly the best two players and most productive. They also played key positions. It’s always been known in college baseball that you don’t want a team of seniors. It’s not a good sign.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:28 pm Tulane signee under Pierce now throwing 105mph for St Louis Cards. Unfortunately he got drafted and never made it on campus. https://twitter.com/tulanerecruits/stat ... 6418029571 http://tulanegreenwave.com/news/2014/11 ... Class.aspx

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:44 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:23 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

THEY WERE MISSING THE TWO PLAYERS THAT CARRIED THE TEAM. THOSE TWO PLAYERS ALSO PLAYED TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN BASEBALL. THIS IS COLLEGE. PLAYERS GRADUATE AND MOVE ON. THE GOOD ONE'S GET DRAFTED BEFORE THEY'RE SENIORS AND MOVE ON. SO DESPITE YOUR CLAIM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSTING A REGIONAL THEY WERE NOT THAT TALENTED A TEAM. THEY JUST WEREN'T. AS I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE HAD WINNING SEASONS THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REGIONAL WORTHY TEAMS.

A huge stretch to say that Alemais and Rogers carried the team. They were the best pro prospects on the team but it’s not even clear that they were the best/most productive college baseball players on the team.
Your claim that all the good players get drafted before their senior season is ridiculous.
Corey Merrill was a very good college baseball player.
Hunter Williams was the best player in this conference a year ago. Never drafted.
The list goes on. There were a bunch of senior all conference performers in big time conferences last year.

They were clearly the best two players and most productive. They also played key positions. It’s always been known in college baseball that you don’t want a team of seniors. It’s not a good sign.

Not clearly the most productive. Neither were nearly the best offensive player on the team and it’s not really possible to measure what they were worth on defense. The stats necessary to measure defense don’t exist in college baseball.

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:28 pm Tulane signee under Pierce now throwing 105mph for St Louis Cards. Unfortunately he got drafted and never made it on campus. https://twitter.com/tulanerecruits/stat ... 6418029571 http://tulanegreenwave.com/news/2014/11 ... Class.aspx

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:41 pm

tpstulane wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:28 pm Tulane signee under Pierce now throwing 105mph for St Louis Cards. Unfortunately he got drafted and never made it on campus. https://twitter.com/tulanerecruits/stat ... 6418029571 http://tulanegreenwave.com/news/2014/11 ... Class.aspx

Never made it here. That happens in college baseball. Bottom line is do you think we have a talented team, one that has Regional talent on it?

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:40 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:44 pm

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 12:23 pm

Profoundwizard wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am

winwave wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am

DfromCT wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 am The 2017 team was a VETERAN, UPPERCLASSMAN DOMINATED team that had been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row. To suggest it was a lousy team that lacked talent belies the facts that you went to the games the two years prior and all of 2017. This coaching staff managed to get about as little out of that group of players as they could. But at least their pant legs were about the same height.

THEY WERE MISSING THE TWO PLAYERS THAT CARRIED THE TEAM. THOSE TWO PLAYERS ALSO PLAYED TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN BASEBALL. THIS IS COLLEGE. PLAYERS GRADUATE AND MOVE ON. THE GOOD ONE'S GET DRAFTED BEFORE THEY'RE SENIORS AND MOVE ON. SO DESPITE YOUR CLAIM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOSTING A REGIONAL THEY WERE NOT THAT TALENTED A TEAM. THEY JUST WEREN'T. AS I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE HAD WINNING SEASONS THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REGIONAL WORTHY TEAMS.

A huge stretch to say that Alemais and Rogers carried the team. They were the best pro prospects on the team but it’s not even clear that they were the best/most productive college baseball players on the team.
Your claim that all the good players get drafted before their senior season is ridiculous.
Corey Merrill was a very good college baseball player.
Hunter Williams was the best player in this conference a year ago. Never drafted.
The list goes on. There were a bunch of senior all conference performers in big time conferences last year.

They were clearly the best two players and most productive. They also played key positions. It’s always been known in college baseball that you don’t want a team of seniors. It’s not a good sign.

Not clearly the most productive. Neither were nearly the best offensive player on the team and it’s not really possible to measure what they were worth on defense. The stats necessary to measure defense don’t exist in college baseball.

Seeing is believing and anyone that watched them on defense saw how superior they were.