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Final call

Postby Jaxwave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:24 pm

There is a stop action picture taken of the last play showing Banks’s elbow down short of the goal line and he had shifted ball from right to left as he was going down so I guess the call wasn’t as clear cut as it appeared. No real way to tell where ball is in relation to goal line as elbow touched down.
I still think the ref has to call TD there instead of short. He called it short based on elbow but that isn’t the deciding factor. It’s where ball is when elbow touched down.



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Re: Final call

Postby dpm wave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:35 pm

Pretty clearly a touchdown to me

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/21556791



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Re: Final call

Postby Jaxwave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:36 pm

I expect the conference to be completely transparent after reviewing this overnight and issue the following statement: “After a thorough review of the last call in the Tulane SMU game on Saturday, we have concluded that the game official had no idea of whether the Tulane player scored or not, and neither do we, but c’mon does anybody in the world of college football really care if Tulane gets screwed. Because they probably have the least interest of any team in the country, those kind of close calls against them should by now be expected by their fans.”

Now wouldn’t that be refreshing to see that kind of honesty.



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Re: Final call

Postby NOLABigSteve » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:41 pm

Jaxwave wrote:There is a stop action picture taken of the last play showing Banks’s elbow down short of the goal line and he had shifted ball from right to left as he was going down so I guess the call wasn’t as clear cut as it appeared. No real way to tell where ball is in relation to goal line as elbow touched down.
I still think the ref has to call TD there instead of short. He called it short based on elbow but that isn’t the deciding factor. It’s where ball is when elbow touched down.

Show me the pic.


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Re: Final call

Postby msdos » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:43 pm

dpm wave wrote:Pretty clearly a touchdown to me

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/21556791


The first slow-mo he looks down, the second slow-mo he looks in



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Re: Final call

Postby Houma de Wave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:54 pm

There's no "elbow issue." He scored. The ball broke the plain. The review official needs to be terminated. The linesman (assuming he made the initial call) also needs to be terminated. Go back to your real jobs!



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Re: Final call

Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:16 pm

Jaxwave wrote:There is a stop action picture taken of the last play showing Banks’s elbow down short of the goal line and he had shifted ball from right to left as he was going down so I guess the call wasn’t as clear cut as it appeared. No real way to tell where ball is in relation to goal line as elbow touched down.
I still think the ref has to call TD there instead of short. He called it short based on elbow but that isn’t the deciding factor. It’s where ball is when elbow touched down.

Here’s the elbow but you can’t see if it’s down or not and the ball is still in his left hand. And you can’t see if it broke the plane from that angle.
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I would like to see a better picture.


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Re: Final call

Postby winwave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:41 pm

His elbow is not down there. His elbow is up by his knee. That's right when their player flips him over. You can see on the video clearly that his elbow was not down.


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Re: Final call

Postby Eaglewave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:02 pm

His elbow is not down at all.


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Re: Final call

Postby Jaxwave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:06 pm

It may not be down but that's what the ref was fooled by. Even if it is down and ball in left arm, the length of the football would mean it was breaking the plane. A camera from the opposite view would have proved conclusive. In my opinion that ref wanted to be the story rather than let the teams be the story.



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Re: Final call

Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:12 pm

Do you think LSU or Bama gets this call? No way in hell. It’s a TD. We won’t get the respect we deserve until we prove otherwise. The team and coaches got hosed and the entire school and it’s fans got shorted as well. Embarrassing for a league that is trying to claim P6 status. Really pathetic. How come they overturned our fumble run for a TD early in the game but they can’t overturn this?


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Re: Final call

Postby greenphantom » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:13 pm

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Re: Final call

Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:45 pm

For those too young to remember:
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Re: Final call

Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:48 pm

I really don't think there's any doubt he was in. When he fell, he fell on top of the other player and rolled over him into the end zone. I don't think his elbow touched.


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Re: Final call

Postby winwave » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:51 pm

His elbow did not touch. That's right when their player flipped him over the goal line.


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Re: Final call

Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:52 pm

winwave wrote:His elbow did not touch. That's right when their player flipped him over the goal line.


That's the way I see it as well. I wonder if Parker Waters or one of the other photogs at the game got a better shot?


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Re: Final call

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:22 pm

https://twitter.com/cjglasscock14/statu ... 6283195392

He STILL looks in from this angle. The ball breaks the plane, right? Or am I seeing what I want to see?

Also, his helmet is blocking what the goal line official would have been looking at, so there is NO WAY that call on the field should have been no TD.



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Re: Final call

Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:27 pm

He definitely touched the ground.
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Re: Final call

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:29 pm

tpstulane wrote:Image


The ball is across the plane there. Use his helmet as your reference point. Ball is level with the helmet, and his helmet his overlapping the goal line.

That’s a TD.
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Re: Final call

Postby 51WaveBG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:30 pm

:( :( :( What else can you expect from Daffy Duck football officials from a Mickey Mouse Conference? TU needs to make sure that NONE of these AAC officials ever be assigned to a TU game in the future, especially the replay official.



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Re: Final call

Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:31 pm

He's in.



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Re: Final call

Postby RobertM320 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:34 pm

Closer



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Re: Final call

Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:35 pm

OUG wrote:
tpstulane wrote:Image


The ball is across the plane there. Use his helmet as your reference point. Ball is level with the helmet, and his helmet his overlapping the goal line.

That’s a TD.

Could be but I can see them not being able to overturn the original call.


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Re: Final call

Postby OUG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:36 pm

RobertM320 wrote:He's in.



Agreed. Is you look at all the reference points in the photo, he is in. There is no way the ball doesn’t break the plane there. There is also NO WAY the linesman can even see the ball so as to call him out on the field! His helmet is in the way of the linseman’s view. Given the clock situation, you HAVE to call a TD on the field there, and then you can do a run-off if the review proves he wasn’t. (Which it did not, because he was in).



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