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Postby winwave » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:17 pm

The game is at 7 on Wednesday. it will be on ESPN3:

http://tulanegreenwave.com/news/2017/11 ... g-eve.aspx

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Postby RobertM320 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:47 pm

Looks like we're feeling positive. A game thread a day in advance for an OOC basketball game against a MAC school! Glad to see it.


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Postby Ruski » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:48 pm

Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L



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Postby GreenLantern » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:02 pm

Ruski wrote:Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L


Interesting that Miami lost to Hartford (who lost to LIU Brooklyn). We need to take care of business.

Keep in mind that when conference play started last year, our record was 3-9 with losses to Texas St. and McNeese. Of course, we had played NC, AZ St., OK, Missouri, GA Tech, and St. Johns. Tougher schedule last year but a much improved team this year.

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Postby lurker123 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:09 pm

Ruski wrote:Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L


Good analysis and while I'm on board with your expectations, it's hard for me to use "inexcusable" if the team is less than 10-2 OOC. It depends on the details. I'm in fact rooting for better but I sat through the home schedule last year with its handful of wins for the season. So let's improve on last year for the whole season and see if we can't triple that dismal six win total perhaps.



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Postby Ruski » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:15 pm

lurker123 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L


Good analysis and while I'm on board with your expectations, it's hard for me to use "inexcusable" if the team is less than 10-2 OOC. It depends on the details. I'm in fact rooting for better but I sat through the home schedule last year with its handful of wins for the season. So let's improve on last year for the whole season and see if we can't triple that dismal six win total perhaps.


Even realtimerpi says we should only lose to UNC, FSU, and @GA St (by 17). And it seems that all it uses is transitive property and heavily weighs home court advantage. Our OOC has 2 good games left. 10-2 would give me hope at 5-8 conference wins, at best 10.



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Postby RobertM320 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:16 pm

lurker123 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L


Good analysis and while I'm on board with your expectations, it's hard for me to use "inexcusable" if the team is less than 10-2 OOC. It depends on the details. I'm in fact rooting for better but I sat through the home schedule last year with its handful of wins for the season. So let's improve on last year for the whole season and see if we can't triple that dismal six win total perhaps.


I dont know, lurker. I mean, after this, every other OOC game except UNC and FSU are low end G5 conf schools or SWAC teams. Maybe inexcusable is a bit strong, but I'd be disappointed if we're not at bare minimum 9-3. The key in determining what the rest of the season holds will be how we play in the UNC and FSU games.


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Postby OUG » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:37 pm

RobertM320 wrote:
lurker123 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Gotta take care of business! Absolutely inexcusable if we don't finish 10-2 or higher OOC.

Our rpi is up to 84 right now. ESPN bpi currently at 189. Kenpom has us at 139.

Miami rpi is 215, bpi is 279, kenpom is 284.

Miami body of work:
@Fordham (150 rpi) 55-54 W
Wright St (310 rpi) 73-67 W
LIU-Brooklyn (190 rpi) 78-74 W
Hartford (162 rpi) 56-68 L


Good analysis and while I'm on board with your expectations, it's hard for me to use "inexcusable" if the team is less than 10-2 OOC. It depends on the details. I'm in fact rooting for better but I sat through the home schedule last year with its handful of wins for the season. So let's improve on last year for the whole season and see if we can't triple that dismal six win total perhaps.


I dont know, lurker. I mean, after this, every other OOC game except UNC and FSU are low end G5 conf schools or SWAC teams. Maybe inexcusable is a bit strong, but I'd be disappointed if we're not at bare minimum 9-3. The key in determining what the rest of the season holds will be how we play in the UNC and FSU games.


Georgia State is legit, and it is our first true road trip. I can definitely see us losing that one. GSU will be favored in Vegas, probably by 5-8 Points. LiveRPI gives them an expected future RPI of 78 (we are 129), which would put them in the top half of the AAC around where UCF is.

So no, anything other than 10-2 is not “inexcusable”. If we have 4 losses though, it will mean we have one away we should have had.



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Postby RobertM320 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:01 pm

Temple's #1 in RPI right now. LOL I know they're good, but are they THAT good?


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Postby RobertM320 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:05 pm

OUG wrote:Georgia State is legit, and it is our first true road trip. I can definitely see us losing that one. GSU will be favored in Vegas, probably by 5-8 Points. LiveRPI gives them an expected future RPI of 78 (we are 129), which would put them in the top half of the AAC around where UCF is.

So no, anything other than 10-2 is not “inexcusable”. If we have 4 losses though, it will mean we have one away we should have had.


Just took a look at live-rpi's projections for us. I'd be happy if they just end the season now and go with the projections. I'd take a 17-13 season with an 8-10 conf record in a heartbeat:

Tulane

Conference: Amer
Expected RPI: 129.0
Current RPI: 89
Expected SOS: 108
Current SOS: 242
Current Record: 4-0
Expected Record: 17-13
Current Conf Record: 0-0
Expected Conf Record: 8-10
Expected Record vs RPI 1-25: 0-4
Expected Record vs RPI 26-50: 1-3
Expected Record vs RPI 51-100: 1-3
Expected Record vs RPI 101-200: 3-2
Expected Record vs RPI 200+: 11-2
Current OOC Record: 4-0
Expected OOC Record: 9-3
Expected OOC RPI: 90
Expected OOC SOS: 224


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Postby lurker123 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:35 pm

RobertM320 wrote:Temple's #1 in RPI right now. LOL I know they're good, but are they THAT good?


I hope so when Tulane beats them! :D

Folks everyone including the team and its coaches is raising expectations. I'm more than happy to have a discussion about how few games we lose versus the norm around here of how many we win which has been the case since Dickson hired Finney.

I truly don't have an insight here other than for the past three weeks or so (including the exhibitions) this has been the best shooting Tulane team I've ever seen. If they keep that up, it can cover alot of defensive and rim play deficiencies and bring many victories. Meanwhile we can all enjoy the ride.

So I welcome tuning out the Saints/NFL to watch Tulane play UNC and FSU before arriving at Temple to open AAC play with an awesome record.



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Postby Houma de Wave » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:12 pm

RobertM320 wrote:Temple's #1 in RPI right now. LOL I know they're good, but are they THAT good?


I think Temple is the team to watch in the AAC. Cincinnati, Wichita State and SMU got most of the preseason hype. But Fran Dunphy is a heckuva coach with good talent.



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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:34 pm

5:40 left, Tulane leads 29-17. I love Sehic's game. Can hit the 3, rebound, pass. Solid addition for this team.


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:39 pm

3:34 left, 32-22 Tulane. And we're only 5-12 from the FT line.


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Postby DfromCT » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:50 pm

RobertM320 wrote:3:34 left, 32-22 Tulane. And we're only 5-12 from the FT line.


Tight rims? Both teams struggling at the line.

We're up 7 at the half against a pesky Miami team.


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:52 pm

Not enough running our offense. Only 4 assists on 14 made shots.

14-28 FG 50%
5-13 FT38.5%
21-14 rebound advantage
9 TOs.


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:53 pm

DfromCT wrote:
RobertM320 wrote:3:34 left, 32-22 Tulane. And we're only 5-12 from the FT line.


Tight rims? Both teams struggling at the line.

We're up 7 at the half against a pesky Miami team.


They're only 37.5% from the field, but we're making way too many turnovers, and a lot of them were unforced.
Lets see if Dunleavy gets that cleaned up for the second half.


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Postby tpstulane » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:53 pm

We look tired to me.


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Postby DfromCT » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:15 pm

We're playing sloppy ball, maybe we are tired. But at the same time, we're a deep team. And the ball movement is there. Need to play better D and tighten up the turnovers. Frasier walks regularly, or so it seems tonight.

I'm thinking Coach Dunleavy can really teach. The shooting is so much better than a year ago, and that has always been his point of pride. As much as I'd like to see a more college oriented offense, the players must love to play in this system, and I can see it being a recruiting advantage. We'll get beat and take some lumps some nights, but this team will also surprise some on a hot shooting night as well.

We're up 19 with just under 5 minutes left. Funny the announcers were talking about the trip to Spain as a bonding experience for the team, and I was ridiculed for suggesting that on this board!


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:38 pm

Over 50% from the field, and up 71-51 with 4:00 left. But the FTs.... 7-16.

Only two turnovers so far this half.


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:42 pm

Dunleavy clearing the bench with 2:28 left. Koka and Slater in, Conroy and Ajang as well. 76-54 Wave.


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Postby RobertM320 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:47 pm

Final score, 80-59. Wave moves to 5-0, one win away from matching last seasons total.


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Postby OUG » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:01 pm

Only saw the second half. Miami is the type of team we will match up really well with. They don’t have a lot of length or size, they aren’t that physical. At the same time, we also had a pretty big athleticism advantage over them. I would think they finish middle of the pack in the MAC at best. But I think they’re more of a top 200 RPI than the 300+ we saw too much of in years past.

Generally a pretty good performance. The next game on the road at GA State is our first test. Although they lost to Prarie View tonight in the Vegas tournament, they also only lost to Ole Miss by 5. If we beat GSU, we should be 7-0 heading into UNC game.



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Re: Wave over Miami(OH.) 80-59 go to 5-0

Postby JerseyWave » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:04 pm

Tulane Basketball is back! It’s been a long time, many coaching staffs ago. We have a competitive well coached team that’s fun to watch. We are going to make some noise in the AAC. Dunleavy knows what he is doing.



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