Potential FB coaching candidates

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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby JerseyWave » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Did Dannen interview Lincoln Riley for the Tulane job two years ago?



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Postby DfromCT » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:32 pm

wave97 wrote:This staff won in Statesboro with Jeff Monken's talent. The entire staff seem like decent people incapable of persuading talented players at primary positions sign.
This thing can get ugly fast Troy. Got Butch Davis on speed dial?


Butch Davis is not leaving FIU after one season to come to Tulane. It's a lateral move, despite an uptick in conference affiliation. He'll stay a couple of years and get a MUCH better gig.

I thought I posted this, but couldn't find it in my posts: We're stuck, for better or worse, with Fritz AT LEAST through 2018. We fire Fritz before the end of his 2nd season and we'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel because nobody will want to come here. How long did it take Cutcliff to turn Duke around? How long did it take Monken at Army? I hate the Fritz offensive offense. I wish it were so easy as many seem to think, just pull the plug and wave the wand and we'll hire the next Nick Saban and be a top 25 team in two years. It just isn't that simple. We pull the plug on Fritz and we'll either have to hire someone that has a similar philosophy or suffer for another few years getting the program aligned with the next coaches philosophy.

With all that being said, I don't think anyone has mentioned Mike Houston, JMU coach, as a possible replacement. If we're going to wax poetic about the next hire, he'd be way ahead of Rich Rodriguez on my list (mostly because that ship sailed LONG ago.) But even if we fired Fritz this year, it would be difficult to get Houston. He's going to have all sorts of offers, and could stay at JMU another year and have an offer from a powerhouse that has a coach retire (think SEC) He's that good. I could easily see Saban retiring, Dabo Sweeney making the move, and Houston getting the Clemson job.


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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby oliveandblue » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:56 pm

We aren't a football school. We're not firing a guy just 1.5 years in (even though the buyout won't be that high). Besides, I don't see Tulane recruiting guys from sketchy backgrounds - and we regularly play teams that are winning by doing so. Most of the AAC (besides Navy/UConn/Cincy? - notice how we can compete against them) are taking huge risks on a regular basis so that they can win now.



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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby Show Me » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:11 pm

Sad thing is WF will get fired at the end of next season. So Tulane is going to waste a year waiting. The 2018 schedule will guarantee his third straight losing season. Something he has never experienced. He’s recruiting like he’s still in the Sunbelt. I guess no one will want this job with the HS facilities. You’re right we’re not a football school and will never be one. We were at least a baseball school but thats over. Perhaps we can tear down Devlin and become a basketball school.



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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby golfnut69 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:31 pm

The 2018 OOC Schedule....at the bottom are the home and away games, they have not been "set" yet

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... qoaaDnjKVa


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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby winwave » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:35 pm

RobertM320 wrote:
winwave wrote:Don't know that we are recruiting GPA's. I haven't seen those listed when we get commitments. I know academics was the issue for a long time. It's not at this point. It is the long term losing and the pathetic excuse for D-1 facilities.


All you have to do is look at the Twitter profiles of the guys we offer, or that commit. Almost every one of them is listing their GPAs and ACT scores in their Twitter profile. And they're always in the mid 3.5-4.0 GPA range and 25+ on the ACT. That's way above NCAA minimums.


We're not doing it because we have to. It's because we are reduced to doing that.
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It's the facilities stupid!

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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby greenphantom » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:40 pm

galvezwave wrote:He was deplorable and set Tulane back 10 years. What are we talking about here anyway? Arguing which pig had the nicest hat ! It's all bad! Mods may delete this thread .


Toledo inherited a mess and at least upgraded the program slightly with summer workouts and he did recruit some NFL quality players. He wasn't good for Tulane but again, he at least had success as a HC at a different program, something Scelfo never did.



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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby HoustonWave » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:52 pm

golfnut69 wrote:
RobertM320 wrote:
winwave wrote:Don't know that we are recruiting GPA's. I haven't seen those listed when we get commitments. I know academics was the issue for a long time. It's not at this point. It is the long term losing and the pathetic excuse for D-1 facilities.


All you have to do is look at the Twitter profiles of the guys we offer, or that commit. Almost every one of them is listing their GPAs and ACT scores in their Twitter profile. And they're always in the mid 3.5-4.0 GPA range and 25+ on the ACT. That's way above NCAA minimums.


Stanford..Northwestern...USC...Notre Dame...SMU.....Vandy....Miami....Syracuse....TCU....the Military Acadamies...and other "Private" Universities all seem to do pretty damn well in College Athletics...the difference...Senior Management commitment to excellence...something lacking @ Tulane University, New Orleans, LA....


It will take time to instill excellence throughout Tulane, including athletics, after 18 years of Cowen's "mediocrity by design".


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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby wave97 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:10 pm

HoustonWave wrote:
golfnut69 wrote:
RobertM320 wrote:
winwave wrote:Don't know that we are recruiting GPA's. I haven't seen those listed when we get commitments. I know academics was the issue for a long time. It's not at this point. It is the long term losing and the pathetic excuse for D-1 facilities.


All you have to do is look at the Twitter profiles of the guys we offer, or that commit. Almost every one of them is listing their GPAs and ACT scores in their Twitter profile. And they're always in the mid 3.5-4.0 GPA range and 25+ on the ACT. That's way above NCAA minimums.


Stanford..Northwestern...USC...Notre Dame...SMU.....Vandy....Miami....Syracuse....TCU....the Military Acadamies...and other "Private" Universities all seem to do pretty damn well in College Athletics...the difference...Senior Management commitment to excellence...something lacking @ Tulane University, New Orleans, LA....


It will take time to instill excellence throughout Tulane, including athletics, after 18 years of Cowen's "mediocrity by design".

It goes back as far as Harry Truman's administration.



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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby Wave QB » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:19 pm

Terry Bowden would leave Akron to come to New Orleans in a heartbeat.



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Re: Potential FB coaching candidates

Postby Bigschtick » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:02 am

Show Me wrote:Sad thing is WF will get fired at the end of next season. So Tulane is going to waste a year waiting. The 2018 schedule will guarantee his third straight losing season. Something he has never experienced. He’s recruiting like he’s still in the Sunbelt. I guess no one will want this job with the HS facilities. You’re right we’re not a football school and will never be one. We were at least a baseball school but thats over. Perhaps we can tear down Devlin and become a basketball school.



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Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018

Postby IM42lane » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:51 am

tpstulane wrote:
galvezwave wrote:
tpstulane wrote:
galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.

You know in two years or less if it’s going to work. Waiting 4-5 years like Tulane always does is insane. You go broke on Wall St holding a loser 4-5 years. No different here. Ask yourself how many years did Bowden and RR need?


Bowden was an anomaly. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I do believe times have changed even since 98. Tulane sat on its ass too long and I'm not convinced it can be saved , much less find somebody worth a sh*t and stupid enough to try it out. If you're winning at fiu or utsa, you would have to be an absolute idiot to make a lateral move (to be kind) to come here, fail then you're coaching defensive backs at country day.

No. Bowden was a great hire. You know you said that to yourself when we got him. Now I agree things today are much different.



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