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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby RobertM320 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Took us only 950 posts on this thread to get a HC. If we'd held out just a bit longer, we'd have outdone the Tanner Lee thread. Hopefully we can move on to new threads soon!


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Postby HoustonWave » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:16 pm

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DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Yes. The Tulane community continues to pay for what dumb ass Wally English did over 30 years ago. As far as QBs, it looks like a couple good ones might be on the market--Trevor Knight leaving OU, and Kyle Allen leaving aTm. Allen would be just what WF would like.
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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby DfromCT » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:48 pm

posse wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Then how do you explain Nick Montana? Where did he come from?


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Postby HoustonWave » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:52 pm

DfromCT wrote:
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DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Then how do you explain Nick Montana? Where did he come from?


I thought Montana came from riding pine at the Univ. of Washington. Perhaps there was a Juco stop between UW and Tulane.


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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby DfromCT » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:00 pm

HoustonWave wrote:
DfromCT wrote:
posse wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Then how do you explain Nick Montana? Where did he come from?


I thought Montana came from riding pine at the Univ. of Washington. Perhaps there was a Juco stop between UW and Tulane.


You are right, he went to U-Dub, where he was going to play about as much as his brother Nate did did at Notre Dame. The "perhaps" is that he spent a year at Mount San Antonio Junior College. The point being, if you can accept Nick Montana, you can accept Junior College players. I think I remember a self imposed rule of a maximum per recruiting class and overall maximum on the roster.


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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby ajcalhoun » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:09 pm

D, I think that was addressed upthread. It's not that we don't accept JCs, it's that Tulane is particular about what credits we'll accept.


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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby DrBox » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:33 pm

HoustonWave wrote:
DfromCT wrote:
posse wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Then how do you explain Nick Montana? Where did he come from?


I thought Montana came from riding pine at the Univ. of Washington. Perhaps there was a Juco stop between UW and Tulane.

Montana qualified out of college. That has always been the TU rule on JCs...you can take them if they qualified.
To get those JCs, you have to go to California, which we should. Note that to my knowledge, California has limited FCS schools, compared to their population, so some players with grades go to JCs and hope to transfer.



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Postby golfnut69 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:30 pm

HoustonWave wrote:
posse wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Theres a misconception, or at least this thread includes posts that make the reader believe you cannot get into Tulane from a Junior College. What about Nick Montana? What about the dozens of others that have done so? We will allow it, just 20 of them in a year.



I'll believe it when the AD and Head Coach actually "SAYS IT'S TRUE". We had it back in the late 70's and early 80's, and Wally English abused it, and Tulane stopped it.


Yes. The Tulane community continues to pay for what dumb ass Wally English did over 30 years ago. As far as QBs, it looks like a couple good ones might be on the market--Trevor Knight leaving OU, and Kyle Allen leaving aTm. Allen would be just what WF would like.


I am not sure about the Allen kid...it is my understanding he was told to look at his transfer options, another spoiled, entitlement generation, all about "me" kinda player


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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby greenphantom » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:40 pm

Thank God Dannon did not listen to those who were pushing for Larry Coker. Roll Wave!



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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby anEngineer » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:14 pm

For the record, I am not in favor of Tulane allowing wholesale JCs to build a team. I am OK with a few to fill holes and improve weak spots but that should be adequate for a good recruiter at a good school. It's like building an NFL roster, you build the team through the draft, not free agency. When I first posted about JCs, my concern was that Fritz may have gotten somewhat comfortable with wide open free agency at his previous schools and forgotten the demands of recruiting 20 high school kids every year. I hope and imagine WF and TD discussed this issue and agree on the guidelines.



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Re: Potential head football coach candidates search

Postby greenphantom » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:23 pm

anEngineer wrote:For the record, I am not in favor of Tulane allowing wholesale JCs to build a team. I am OK with a few to fill holes and improve weak spots but that should be adequate for a good recruiter at a good school. It's like building an NFL roster, you build the team through the draft, not free agency. When I first posted about JCs, my concern was that Fritz may have gotten somewhat comfortable with wide open free agency at his previous schools and forgotten the demands of recruiting 20 high school kids every year. I hope and imagine WF and TD discussed this issue and agree on the guidelines.


I'd be happy with 2 JCs per year plus a graduate transfer or 2.



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Postby JTLiuzza » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:30 pm

anEngineer wrote:I hope and imagine WF and TD discussed this issue [JC's] and agree on the guidelines.


The policies and guidelines for admitting JUCOs are not determined between Coach and AD. That's a Fitz level thing. It wouldn't qualify as one of Goldring's "inherent challenges." JUCO admission policy is up to the prez if he's willing to deal with the backlash from the coneheads on the faculty.

I agree with you, though, in that it's a stopgap to plug holes here and there, not a strategy in lieu of sound HS recruiting. But to date we haven't even been able to do the stopgap thing.



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Postby ExileWave » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:52 pm

JTLiuzza wrote:
anEngineer wrote:I hope and imagine WF and TD discussed this issue [JC's] and agree on the guidelines.


The policies and guidelines for admitting JUCOs are not determined between Coach and AD. That's a Fitz level thing. It wouldn't qualify as one of Goldring's "inherent challenges." JUCO admission policy is up to the prez if he's willing to deal with the backlash from the coneheads on the faculty.

I agree with you, though, in that it's a stopgap to plug holes here and there, not a strategy in lieu of sound HS recruiting. But to date we haven't even been able to do the stopgap thing.


TCU has 9 JC players and several transfers from Nebraska, Florida and others. Texas JC credits are accepted by all schools in the state including Rice, TCU, and SMU. Probably Baylor also. The core classes are set up to transfer to 4 year colleges. Lone Star College in Houston has 4-5 campuses and over 90,000 students. And they go on to UT, A&M, TCU etc. The JC issue is Tulane being Tulane- the stubborn belief that we are "better" than everyone else. That has to change also.



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Postby Ruski » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:19 am

5 years later Mike Leach is 21-31 at WSU, now in the headlines calling his team a bunch of JC softball players haha. I'm very happy with Fritz but still wonder what might have been with a Leach led team being promoted into AAC, could've been crazy for the media hype train.

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Postby HoustonWave » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:36 pm

Ruski wrote:5 years later Mike Leach is 21-31 at WSU, now in the headlines calling his team a bunch of JC softball players haha. I'm very happy with Fritz but still wonder what might have been with a Leach led team being promoted into AAC, could've been crazy for the media hype train.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... te-cougars


It would have been very entertaining to have Leach, and far better than nit wit CJ. But I suspect that Leach and Cowen would have co-existed for about an hour and a half before the fireworks would have started. I'm just glad we got Fritz now--I'm trying to erase my Tulane memory of the last 18 years.


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Postby Aberzombie1892 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:44 pm

Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.

Edit: Jon Heacock and Chad Glasgow
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Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.

Lane would be interesting.


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tpstulane wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.

Lane would be interesting.


Me too. I edited the initial post to add Iowa State‘s and TCU’s defensive coordinators since they have more than earned consideration.



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Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018

Postby Show Me » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:50 pm

Dannen would be a legend if he cut bait this weekend. Show Me Troy you got what it takes!



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Postby tpstulane » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:52 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
tpstulane wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.

Lane would be interesting.


Me too. I edited the initial post to add Iowa State‘s and TCU’s defensive coordinators since they have more than earned consideration.

Great.
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Postby cajunfanatico » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:53 pm

Hud should be available by the end of the season.


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Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018

Postby galvezwave » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:09 pm

Lol. Willie ain't goin no where for a while.



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Postby Pepper » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:13 pm

galvezwave wrote:Lol. Willie ain't goin no where for a while.



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Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018

Postby DaveBrownStreak » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:15 pm

From the looks of things, my recommendations would b:

-Spanky as head coach and Our Gang as the staff

- Captain Kangaroo

-Mr. Green Jeans

You get my drift. All kidding aside, WHO would want the job.....



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Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018

Postby Bigschtick » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:15 pm

Why would anybody want to come here!


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