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I think the announcers made some reference to the fact that Tulane has opened the playbook more since Banks got healthy. Not sure if it was something Banks said, or Fritz told them, I just seem to remember hearing it somewhere.


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Just talking heads talking out their ass. Fritz said during the week last week that we are adding things as he can handle them.
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winwave wrote:Just talking heads talking out their ass. Fritz said during the week last week that we are adding things as he can handle them.
That's probably what they were talking about.
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Gotcha.
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Ok, now I can finally say, it feels good to not have to wait till mid-November for our first conference win.
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winwave wrote:
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anEngineer wrote:On the long runs today, the down field blocking by the WRs was outstanding. They absolutely had their guys locked up, without holding.
This is something that use to drive me crazy in the CJ era. It's great to see this!



Today was a very good day for Tulane football in the Fritz era. All of our wins have been pretty exciting games to watch. Say what you want about Grambling, but they are ranked in the FCS poll and haven't lost a game since. Army is coming off a bowl season and can win 7-8 games this year as they are already 4-2. Tulsa could easily have a winning record this year as the ball just hasn't bounced in their corner with 3 close losses. We put up more numbers on them than #15 Oklahoma State!

I think the Fritz era is going in the right direction now. We are taking care of business. I am starting to feel like USF could be in for an upset.
As for Army their wins are over Fordham, Buffalo, UTEP and Rice. Saying they are 4-2 is meaningless. They are not a good football team. Saying a team was a Bowl team also doesn't have the same meaning it did years ago. There are 80 teams that make Bowl games. Tulsa lost a ton of talent and their D is the absolute worst. The good news is we made a last minute drive and Banks had his coming out party against Army. We trounced a horrid Tulsa team the way you should. We are making progress and still have a lot to improve on. We don't need to overplay things. We are finally getting better.
Saying they are 4-2 isn't meaningless. I know being a bowl qualifying team doesn't carry the weight it use to by far, but being a bowl program is better than what we have been. Army, (who beat Navy last year), went to a bowl game and will go to another one this year. Mark it down. Nobody is putting them on a Michigan or Notre Dame list, but they aren't a "bad" football team. The win over Army is a notable win.


To dismiss a blowout over a program that has owned us is ridiculous as well. So what if Tulsa lost players! Nobody else beat them the way that we did this season. We did what so called good teams are supposed to do vs struggling non P5 teams. How many times have you seen that in Yulman?

Come on Winwave! We have something to be optimistic about. Nobody is overplaying anything. We have plenty of room to improve, but it's safe to say we are actually moving in the right direction. I can't overplay our 3-2 record, but I refuse to underplay it as well. For the first time since 2013, we have a chance to go to a bowl game. Even if it's the Bud Broiler Bowl, it's better than sitting at home going 3-9 after horrible QB play and poor coaching. See Tanner Lee/Price/McDonnell/CJ for more details.


Hey people, we just racked up 62 points against Tulsa! I am happy this week!
Please work on your reading comprehension. I didn't say Army was a bad team. However it clearly wasn't a notable win. They have improved under Monken but they have a long way to go. They beat Navy after worth got hurt in the previous game. The notable thing that happened was the WAY we won it and I posted that very clearly in the Army GameDay thread. It was absolutely a confidence builder in many ways.

As for the victory over Tulsa I haven't dismissed it at all. I said in multiple post that we beat them the way we have longed hope we would. We clearly built off that momentum from the thrilling ending to the Army game and I think we will continue to.

I am optimistic and clearly stated that when someone else indicated they thought I wasn't. Just b/c one is honest and realistic in their postings doesn't mean they aren't positive. I hope Banks stays healthy. If he does I think we will start to see us use the passing game more. He's catching onto the offense and we are therefore adding to it. He hasn't played at this level. As he gets more experience he will continue to get even better. As far as I'm concerned he's now worth the price of admission all by himself.

Relax and enjoy.
If Army isn't a good team, then what are they? I do understand your other points. I agree on Banks as well.
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You have been beat down by the Tulane low bar syndrome. Army is not GOOD. That doesn't mean they are bad . They play a weak schedule every year. Getting 6 wins and getting Bowl eligible in this day and age absolutely does not make a team GOOD.
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RobertM320 wrote:By the way, did you notice just how deep we went on the bench? PJ Hurst got QB time, Miles Strickland, Andrew Zuckerman and even Jared Bertrand got rushing carries. If we had stuck with our starters the whole game, we would have been in the 70's easy.
It was great that WF played them. Most of us know what a grind practice is and many know how humbling it is to ride the bench game after game. For those folks riding the far end of the pine, it is exhilarating to see the field even if it's only for a few plays a season. There is a reason these folks are way down the depth chart so stats show when they play especially when other team still has starters in.

BTW why didn't McClain play? Is he hurt?
Is Mclain still eligible for a redshirt? If so, then this shows that Coach Fritz has an interest in the long-term development of the program.
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winwave wrote:You have been beat down by the Tulane low bar syndrome. Army is not GOOD. That doesn't mean they are bad . They play a weak schedule every year. Getting 6 wins and getting Bowl eligible in this day and age absolutely does not make a team GOOD.
win, put this in perspective for me. In your opinion, how many GOOD teams are there in college football. Ten? Twenty? Forty? Just trying to figure out how narrow your interpretation is. And what is your scale? Is there only GOOD and BAD? I think in most of our minds, there's a few VERY GOOD teams, then a bunch of GOOD teams, some AVERAGE teams, some BAD teams, and some VERY BAD teams. How many do you put in each category. Lets pin this down.
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RobertM320 wrote:
winwave wrote:You have been beat down by the Tulane low bar syndrome. Army is not GOOD. That doesn't mean they are bad . They play a weak schedule every year. Getting 6 wins and getting Bowl eligible in this day and age absolutely does not make a team GOOD.
win, put this in perspective for me. In your opinion, how many GOOD teams are there in college football. Ten? Twenty? Forty? Just trying to figure out how narrow your interpretation is. And what is your scale? Is there only GOOD and BAD? I think in most of our minds, there's a few VERY GOOD teams, then a bunch of GOOD teams, some AVERAGE teams, some BAD teams, and some VERY BAD teams. How many do you put in each category. Lets pin this down.
I’d consider USF and Memphis “good”. And we will be underdogs in those two. Should we win either or both that would be a big deal. We were favorite over Army and Tulsa so winning was pretty much expected. I think winwave would be impressed if we beat either USF or Memphis.
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Winwave, to say that a team is not good and then say that they are not a bad team is hogwash. The meaning is synonymous if you ask me. And then you tell one of our long time posters and former players to work on his reading comprehension?! He took it how you wrote it. Maybe you should work on expressing your thoughts better and not be an elitist snob. Now I'm not saying your a snob, but that's how your acting. :lol: :lol: See how that works?


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The Tulsa coach ain't got no explanation

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for getting the krap beat out of them
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a few observations...The Wilson kid is the best we have had since Davenport was in the middle of the D line...Playing a 3-4-4 defense is the best use of the players currently on the roster....the DB's have not played up to expectations, communication breakdowns have been costly, heaven or hell help us when we play an SMU or Houston...the WR's played better today than against Army, they blocked well downfield, no hold penalties if I recall correctly....the OL, had one of it's best games in the last two years, Diaz returning has been a huge help, and of course with that said, the RB's had one hell of a day....that is all
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RobertM320 wrote:
winwave wrote:You have been beat down by the Tulane low bar syndrome. Army is not GOOD. That doesn't mean they are bad . They play a weak schedule every year. Getting 6 wins and getting Bowl eligible in this day and age absolutely does not make a team GOOD.
win, put this in perspective for me. In your opinion, how many GOOD teams are there in college football. Ten? Twenty? Forty? Just trying to figure out how narrow your interpretation is. And what is your scale? Is there only GOOD and BAD? I think in most of our minds, there's a few VERY GOOD teams, then a bunch of GOOD teams, some AVERAGE teams, some BAD teams, and some VERY BAD teams. How many do you put in each category. Lets pin this down.
I think I've been very clear that it's not divided between good and bad. There are very good teams. Then you have good teams, above average teams, average, bad and very bad. Obviously you can't put a specific number in each group and it could change season to season. Just rounding it out there would generally be 10 very good teams. Then say 20 good teams, 20 above average teams, 20 average teams, 30 bad teams and 30 very bad teams.

So are you saying Army is a GOOD team?
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tpstulane wrote:
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winwave wrote:You have been beat down by the Tulane low bar syndrome. Army is not GOOD. That doesn't mean they are bad . They play a weak schedule every year. Getting 6 wins and getting Bowl eligible in this day and age absolutely does not make a team GOOD.
win, put this in perspective for me. In your opinion, how many GOOD teams are there in college football. Ten? Twenty? Forty? Just trying to figure out how narrow your interpretation is. And what is your scale? Is there only GOOD and BAD? I think in most of our minds, there's a few VERY GOOD teams, then a bunch of GOOD teams, some AVERAGE teams, some BAD teams, and some VERY BAD teams. How many do you put in each category. Lets pin this down.
I’d consider USF and Memphis “good”. And we will be underdogs in those two. Should we win either or both that would be a big deal. We were favorite over Army and Tulsa so winning was pretty much expected. I think winwave would be impressed if we beat either USF or Memphis.
Yep. Those would definitely be wins that would be impressive for us . Hopeful we will get one of those.
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waveclem wrote:Winwave, to say that a team is not good and then say that they are not a bad team is hogwash. The meaning is synonymous if you ask me. And then you tell one of our long time posters and former players to work on his reading comprehension?! He took it how you wrote it. Maybe you should work on expressing your thoughts better and not be an elitist snob. Now I'm not saying your a snob, but that's how your acting. :lol: :lol: See how that works?


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He didn't take it how I wrote it thus the comprehension remark. I'd suggest the same to you. There's a lot of middle ground between being good and being bad.
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the performance of Miles Strickland at RB. Running with the two's against many of their one's he performed well. For an offense that requires a deep stable of RB's this was nice to finally see.Since he got here he has almost always been out with that foot injury. Glad to see him healthy.
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winwave wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the performance of Miles Strickland at RB. Running with the two's against many of their one's he performed well. For an offense that requires a deep stable of RB's this was nice to finally see.Since he got here he has almost always been out with that foot injury. Glad to see him healthy.
He looks like he's another short RB, like Huderson.
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waveclem wrote:Winwave, to say that a team is not good and then say that they are not a bad team is hogwash. The meaning is synonymous if you ask me. And then you tell one of our long time posters and former players to work on his reading comprehension?! He took it how you wrote it. Maybe you should work on expressing your thoughts better and not be an elitist snob. Now I'm not saying your a snob, but that's how your acting. :lol: :lol: See how that works?


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You are being dualistic here. The choices aren't just good or bad, a team could also be mediocre. Also, good and bad are antonymous no synonymous, although I know what you are trying to say.
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