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Postby Aberzombie1892 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:35 am

It was a good win that will likely be Tulane's first win over a team that finishes the season with a winning record since Houston in '14. Most Tulane fans that had Tulane keying in a bowl had this one circled as a win, so this does not change season expectations too much, however, that being said, most fans probably did not expect Tulane to need to score on its final possession to either tie or win the game against a team at home that attempted 5 passes of which none were completed and two resulted in INTs.

As for the rest of the season, Tulsa (best win 1-3 UL), @FIU (best win @ 1-3 Rice), Cincinnati (best win @ 2-2 Miami OH) and @ECU (best win @ 1-2 UConn) all look winnable at this point.



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Postby tpstulane » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:57 am

Aberzombie1892 wrote:It was a good win that will likely be Tulane's first win over a team that finishes the season with a winning record since Houston in '14. Most Tulane fans that had Tulane keying in a bowl had this one circled as a win, so this does not change season expectations too much, however, that being said, most fans probably did not expect Tulane to need to score on its final possession to either tie or win the game against a team at home that attempted 5 passes of which none were completed and two resulted in INTs.

As for the rest of the season, Tulsa (best win 1-3 UL), @FIU (best win @ 1-3 Rice), Cincinnati (best win @ 2-2 Miami OH) and @ECU (best win @ 1-2 UConn) all look winnable at this point.

I agree with the remaining “winnable” games. Originally I had us beating Grambling, Army, FIU, Cinn, and ECU. Tulsa now looks like another winnable game. If we beat Tulsa we will go bowling.


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Postby sader24 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:33 am

Memphis and Houston are not unbeatable. It's unlikely we knock either off but they can be beaten. I still see us at 6 wins.



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Postby lurker123 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:45 am

sader24 wrote:Memphis and Houston are not unbeatable. It's unlikely we knock either off but they can be beaten. I still see us at 6 wins.


Hope you can join us at some of the upcoming home games. You will enjoy watching this team live.



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Postby tpstulane » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:14 am

Could be a drive up road trip to Memphis on the horizon if the enthusiasm continues.


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Postby DfromCT » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:35 am

Tulsa will be a tougher test and true showing of where we are in the AAC. They're going to score points and their D will give us the opportunity to do so as well. We'll need at least 30 to win. Can we get there?


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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:46 am

DfromCT wrote:Tulsa will be a tougher test and true showing of where we are in the AAC. They're going to score points and their D will give us the opportunity to do so as well. We'll need at least 30 to win. Can we get there?


Well, maybe. Tulsa did just lose at home to 2-2 New Mexico 16-13, so, if Tulsa cannot find a way to improve whatever impeded its offense over the weekend, Tulane may only need to hit high teens/low twenties.



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Postby Ruski » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:31 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Tulsa will be a tougher test and true showing of where we are in the AAC. They're going to score points and their D will give us the opportunity to do so as well. We'll need at least 30 to win. Can we get there?


Well, maybe. Tulsa did just lose at home to 2-2 New Mexico 16-13, so, if Tulsa cannot find a way to improve whatever impeded its offense over the weekend, Tulane may only need to hit high teens/low twenties.


Schedule sets up perfectly to beat Tulsa first time since 2013.

Bob Davie at New Mexico runs a zone read triple option, out of the shotgun similar to ours. CWF has almost 2 weeks to study the New Mexico game whereas Tulsa should be pretty banged up after playing Navy (we'll be their 3rd option team in a row!).

Looking at the New Mexico tape it looks like their QB is much less athletic than Banks but he has a very good grasp of the option and when to pitch vs. holding it, something Banks needs to work on.

I think people are making a very big deal about Army, it's a good win but not yet program defining. If we can get the Tulsa monkey off our back then I'll truly buy into this season as turning the corner. ESPN FPI now has us up to 60% chance to win. If we lose it's same ole Tulane, if we win I'm sending in another check!



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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby galvezwave » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:54 pm

glad for the win and hopeful for the rest of the season. I like WFs attitude. For such an outstanding record as a head coach, he has zero arrogance. I love how when talking about getting better, it's always "us" never "them". I don't know how anyone could root against him. That said. We're 2-2 . We're 2-2 every year. Time to take another forward step. We owe Tulsa several a$$ beatings.



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Postby RobertM320 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Ruski wrote:
Schedule sets up perfectly to beat Tulsa first time since 2013.

Bob Davie at New Mexico runs a zone read triple option, out of the shotgun similar to ours. CWF has almost 2 weeks to study the New Mexico game whereas Tulsa should be pretty banged up after playing Navy (we'll be their 3rd option team in a row!).

Looking at the New Mexico tape it looks like their QB is much less athletic than Banks but he has a very good grasp of the option and when to pitch vs. holding it, something Banks needs to work on.

I think people are making a very big deal about Army, it's a good win but not yet program defining. If we can get the Tulsa monkey off our back then I'll truly buy into this season as turning the corner. ESPN FPI now has us up to 60% chance to win. If we lose it's same ole Tulane, if we win I'm sending in another check!


I was surprised to find that NM also runs a similar offense. Those Tulsa boys will be pretty beat up after they face us. Three weeks straight of triple option teams. However, I am surprised that the score was so low that game. Did NM just control the ball and limit possessions or were there a bunch of turnovers?


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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby RobertM320 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:09 pm

I just went and looked at the box score. From what I could find, the weather was fine, but NM did fumble 4 times, losing two, and threw an int. Tulsa QB was only 13-27 and 1 int. TOP for NM was 42:41 seconds, so they basically kept Tulsa off the field. 17:19 TOP for Tulsa, and yet they ran 58 offensive plays, which was more than we had against Army.


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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby sader24 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:25 pm

lurker123 wrote:
sader24 wrote:Memphis and Houston are not unbeatable. It's unlikely we knock either off but they can be beaten. I still see us at 6 wins.


Hope you can join us at some of the upcoming home games. You will enjoy watching this team live.


I was at the Army game.



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Postby Ruski » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:31 pm

RobertM320 wrote:I just went and looked at the box score. From what I could find, the weather was fine, but NM did fumble 4 times, losing two, and threw an int. Tulsa QB was only 13-27 and 1 int. TOP for NM was 42:41 seconds, so they basically kept Tulsa off the field. 17:19 TOP for Tulsa, and yet they ran 58 offensive plays, which was more than we had against Army.


There you have our plan to victory, minus the turnovers. Keep Tulsa off the field, intercept a couple of deep balls, and run the option correctly. Could easily turn into a rout if we stay focused.



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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby Jaxwave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:15 am

For Tulane fans to count any games as wins before they are played is absurd. As we all have learned over the years we could lose to any of the remaining teams on our schedule.



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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby winwave » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:31 am

No one counted any game as a win. They simply said these are games that are winnable.


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Re: Army Game Thread

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:09 am

winwave wrote:No one counted any game as a win. They simply said these are games that are winnable.


This.

Jaxwave wrote:For Tulane fans to count any games as wins before they are played is absurd. As we all have learned over the years we could lose to any of the remaining teams on our schedule.


Most fans expected this to be a win in order for Tulane to stay on track for bowl eligibility, but this was not a game that anyone assumed that Tulane would win. Tulsa, @ECU, @FIU, and Cincinnati would be the smoothest path to bowl eligibility, but they are not games that anyone should -assume- that Tulane will win.



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