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Re: Winning Does

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:38 am

msdos wrote:
nawlinspete wrote:We are playing well; correction extremely well.


Not sure what team you were watching, but it sure as sh*t wasn't Tulane


Some of this. We have yet to see Tulane accomplish anything that would be worthy of saying that everything has changed. If Tulane loses to either Army or Tulsa, it will place Tulane's goal of bowl eligibility in jeopardy. Glancing at the performances of other teams on the schedule so far, @ECU and @FIU should be wins unless either this Tulane team has the away game issues that CJ's 2013 team had or those programs improve significantly before they play Tulane, but, beyond that and the insta-loss @Oklahoma, it's difficult to be too optimistic or pessimistic until the Army and Tulsa games are played since Tulane fans will have a better idea of which and how many other teams Tulane would need to defeat to reach 6 wins.



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Re: Winning Does

Postby nawlinspete » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:44 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
msdos wrote:
nawlinspete wrote:We are playing well; correction extremely well.


Not sure what team you were watching, but it sure as sh*t wasn't Tulane


Some of this. We have yet to see Tulane accomplish anything that would be worthy of saying that everything has changed. If Tulane loses to either Army or Tulsa, it will place Tulane's goal of bowl eligibility in jeopardy. Glancing at the performances of other teams on the schedule so far, @ECU and @FIU should be wins unless either this Tulane team has the away game issues that CJ's 2013 team had or those programs improve significantly before they play Tulane, but, beyond that and the insta-loss @Oklahoma, it's difficult to be too optimistic or pessimistic until the Army and Tulsa games are played since Tulane fans will have a better idea of which and how many other teams Tulane would need to defeat to reach 6 wins.


All the more reason to get your butts into the seats at Yulman....


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Re: Winning Does

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:57 pm

Yes and no. "Yes" in the sense that those games would be worth watching since there is so much uncertainty surrounding the strength of the program this year, but also "No" in the sense Tulane that fans that follow the program closely may have expected fewer issues versus Navy (i.e. passing, third down efficiency, coaching decision making, special teams, capitalizing on turnovers, etc.) regardless as to whether Tulane had won or lost.



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Re: Winning Does

Postby nawlinspete » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:00 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:Yes and no. "Yes" in the sense that those games would be worth watching since there is so much uncertainty surrounding the strength of the program this year, but also "No" in the sense Tulane that fans that follow the program closely may have expected fewer issues versus Navy (i.e. passing, third down efficiency, coaching decision making, special teams, capitalizing on turnovers, etc.) regardless as to whether Tulane had won or lost.


Wrong. 'fans' who do not support the athletes and the university are not fans.


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Re: Winning Does

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:33 pm

nawlinspete wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:Yes and no. "Yes" in the sense that those games would be worth watching since there is so much uncertainty surrounding the strength of the program this year, but also "No" in the sense Tulane that fans that follow the program closely may have expected fewer issues versus Navy (i.e. passing, third down efficiency, coaching decision making, special teams, capitalizing on turnovers, etc.) regardless as to whether Tulane had won or lost.


Wrong. 'fans' who do not support the athletes and the university are not fans.


A difference of opinion I suppose. To phrase it differently, Tulane hasn't defeated an FBS team that ended the season with a winning record since Nov. 8, 2014 (@Houston), and, while it showed glimpses of the ability to accomplish that feat versus Navy, the same old issues continued to take place that prevented it from being able to due so (special teams, third down efficiency, inability to capitalize on turnovers, difficulty scoring, etc.). Tulane has now played 3 increasingly close games in a row against Navy, but each game has still ended the same way, and, in the other two seasons, Tulane did not come close to bowl eligibility.

Add to all of that that Tulane wants the firstborn children of Tulane fans as a donation in order for those fans to get good season tickets to games and attendance will not look good. Sure, some Tulane fans who chose not to renew season tickets because of donations may still buy good seats individually, but, when they do that, it's far less likely that they will attend each home game since there is no sunk cost.



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