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Postby chain gang x man » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:35 am

tpstulane wrote:
Bearwave wrote:TPS, you and I are on the same page on this. Many of our best pitchers were soft tossers with nasty stuff. I've seen too many guys gain a couple mph's and think they were power pitchers, rarely does it turn out good. ULL picked up a lefty from Hahnville this year. Jr year he started trying to overpower guys and his era was going up. He went back to pitching instead of throwing and made all state his last two years. His ball moves a ton but when he tried throwing max speed it flattened out.

Thank You. When a kid wins 10 games as a freshman and is named All American you don't change a thing. Especially close to the start of the season.

Line on Ross last night

Corvallis
# Pitcher IP H R ER BB SO ERA
11 Massey, R 5.0 4 2 2 3 1 4.82
He took the loss his team lost 2-1
Kody Hoese went 1-1 against Ross
Hoese is hitting .286

Side note the Hahnville pitcher played quarterback on the football team and got hurt in his I think his junior year



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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby Bearwave » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:58 am

chain gang x man wrote:
tpstulane wrote:
Bearwave wrote:TPS, you and I are on the same page on this. Many of our best pitchers were soft tossers with nasty stuff. I've seen too many guys gain a couple mph's and think they were power pitchers, rarely does it turn out good. ULL picked up a lefty from Hahnville this year. Jr year he started trying to overpower guys and his era was going up. He went back to pitching instead of throwing and made all state his last two years. His ball moves a ton but when he tried throwing max speed it flattened out.

Thank You. When a kid wins 10 games as a freshman and is named All American you don't change a thing. Especially close to the start of the season.

Line on Ross last night

Corvallis
# Pitcher IP H R ER BB SO ERA
11 Massey, R 5.0 4 2 2 3 1 4.82
He took the loss his team lost 2-1
Kody Hoese went 1-1 against Ross
Hoese is hitting .286

Side note the Hahnville pitcher played quarterback on the football team and got hurt in his I think his junior year


He didn't play football his junior year.


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby chain gang x man » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:38 am

Bearwave wrote:
chain gang x man wrote:
tpstulane wrote:
Bearwave wrote:TPS, you and I are on the same page on this. Many of our best pitchers were soft tossers with nasty stuff. I've seen too many guys gain a couple mph's and think they were power pitchers, rarely does it turn out good. ULL picked up a lefty from Hahnville this year. Jr year he started trying to overpower guys and his era was going up. He went back to pitching instead of throwing and made all state his last two years. His ball moves a ton but when he tried throwing max speed it flattened out.

Thank You. When a kid wins 10 games as a freshman and is named All American you don't change a thing. Especially close to the start of the season.

Line on Ross last night

Corvallis
# Pitcher IP H R ER BB SO ERA
11 Massey, R 5.0 4 2 2 3 1 4.82
He took the loss his team lost 2-1
Kody Hoese went 1-1 against Ross
Hoese is hitting .286

Side note the Hahnville pitcher played quarterback on the football team and got hurt in his I think his junior year


He didn't play football his junior year.

You're right
He played his senior year



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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby Bearwave » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Sophomore year he got hurt and he chose to not play his Junior year.


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby Pepper » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:11 am

DfromCT wrote:Shocked that (Pitching Coach) Tighe Dickinson is coming back. The pitching, at least the starting pitching, was supposed to be the backbone of the team. As a staff, it was bad.


Skip Johnson, the pitching coach at Oklahoma is available. His rep with handling pitchers is unquestioned. I'd make the move immediately.


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Postby golfnut69 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:17 am

Pepper wrote:
DfromCT wrote:Shocked that (Pitching Coach) Tighe Dickinson is coming back. The pitching, at least the starting pitching, was supposed to be the backbone of the team. As a staff, it was bad.


Skip Johnson, the pitching coach at Oklahoma is available. His rep with handling pitchers is unquestioned. I'd make the move immediately.


TJ is NOT going to make any changes...he just went public with his love fest for his pitching coach...the most disturbing news for Baseball, based on performance, is that we still have the same damn staff that should never have been here in the first place...i think I am going to start a petition in the "Hood to have TD thrown out of "ole metry"


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby greenphantom » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:35 pm

tpstulane wrote:
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Profoundwizard wrote:I don't know the specifics of the program Ross was put on. Maybe you do, but it's hard for me to give a real defense of it without knowing the specifics.

I will say that correlation doesn't imply causation. And I stand by the belief that adding velocity was a good idea.


Adding velocity is good for some but a small increase in velocity can make some people easier to hit; ball flattens out some, they get over confident and think they can throw it by people, and often control suffers. Ross was effective because of command and lack of velocity. He's lost all of that and may not get it back.

Oh, and Gregg Maddux never threw hard.

Exactly. Barth Melius couldn't break a wet paper bag. All he did was get outs.


This is not true. While no Randy Johnson, in his prime Maddux had a low 90s fastball. Not sure what the problem was this year with Massey but I doubt it could be attributed 100% to use of weighted balls. Many MLB pitchers use them and not just in the offseason. Some use them in games to warm up in the bullpen.



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Postby golfnut69 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:30 am

greenphantom wrote:
tpstulane wrote:
Bearwave wrote:
Profoundwizard wrote:I don't know the specifics of the program Ross was put on. Maybe you do, but it's hard for me to give a real defense of it without knowing the specifics.

I will say that correlation doesn't imply causation. And I stand by the belief that adding velocity was a good idea.


Adding velocity is good for some but a small increase in velocity can make some people easier to hit; ball flattens out some, they get over confident and think they can throw it by people, and often control suffers. Ross was effective because of command and lack of velocity. He's lost all of that and may not get it back.

Oh, and Gregg Maddux never threw hard.

Exactly. Barth Melius couldn't break a wet paper bag. All he did was get outs.


This is not true. While no Randy Johnson, in his prime Maddux had a low 90s fastball. Not sure what the problem was this year with Massey but I doubt it could be attributed 100% to use of weighted balls. Many MLB pitchers use them and not just in the offseason. Some use them in games to warm up in the bullpen.


Maddux stats
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... v6Ts2zO3xg


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby chain gang x man » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:38 pm

Ross Massey looking good tonight
https://twitter.com/quickpitches32/stat ... 4095671297
Could it be coaching?
Massey finishes his night with 6ip, 6 hits allowed, 2 runs, 3,BB's and 4 K's.
In line for the W

Ross gets no decision
Cowlitz scored four times in the seventh inning to erase a 3-2 Corvallis lead. The comeback negated a fine start by lefty Ross Massey (Tulane), who allowed two runs and six hits in six innings, with four strikeouts. It was his longest outing of the summer.



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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby chain gang x man » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:26 pm

Some good news

Jonathon Artigues update: Hitting .356 (3rd in the Texas Collegiate League), playing 2B, 3B and SS. Has pitched in two games middle relief. 6 innings: 6k's, 3BB's, 2hits, 0 ER's;



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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby winwave » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:33 pm

Good to hear.


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby chain gang x man » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:46 pm

SPOOOOOOON

Grant Witherspoon's (@GreenWaveBSB) 3-run double was the big blow for @BourneBraves offense in their 5-4 win over Cotuit last night.



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Postby chain gang x man » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:19 pm

Sal Gozzo highlight

Sal Gozzo gets on with a HBP, steals 2nd, advances to 3rd on a balk, and comes home on a ball thrown over the pitchers head by the catcher



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Postby DfromCT » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:11 pm

chain gang x man wrote:Sal Gozzo highlight

Sal Gozzo gets on with a HBP, steals 2nd, advances to 3rd on a balk, and comes home on a ball thrown over the pitchers head by the catcher


There were quite a few posts in threads late this past season indicating that the Gozzo brothers were transferring and that their father really disliked Coach Jewett. Has anyone confirmed they're leaving or returning?


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Postby chain gang x man » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:19 pm

DfromCT wrote:
chain gang x man wrote:Sal Gozzo highlight

Sal Gozzo gets on with a HBP, steals 2nd, advances to 3rd on a balk, and comes home on a ball thrown over the pitchers head by the catcher


There were quite a few posts in threads late this past season indicating that the Gozzo brothers were transferring and that their father really disliked Coach Jewett. Has anyone confirmed they're leaving or returning?

Word is Sal coming back Paul is not



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Postby chain gang x man » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:46 pm

Spoon at it again

T3: A Witherspoon double puts the Bravos on top heading into the bottom of the 3rd #GoBraves
4R, 3E, 0E, 1LOB
Bourne 4, Cotuit 0



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Postby RobertM320 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:43 pm

chain gang x man wrote:
DfromCT wrote:
chain gang x man wrote:Sal Gozzo highlight

Sal Gozzo gets on with a HBP, steals 2nd, advances to 3rd on a balk, and comes home on a ball thrown over the pitchers head by the catcher


There were quite a few posts in threads late this past season indicating that the Gozzo brothers were transferring and that their father really disliked Coach Jewett. Has anyone confirmed they're leaving or returning?

Word is Sal coming back Paul is not


So who will be our catcher?


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Re: More disturbing baseball news

Postby chain gang x man » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:26 pm

RobertM320 wrote:
chain gang x man wrote:
DfromCT wrote:
chain gang x man wrote:Sal Gozzo highlight

Sal Gozzo gets on with a HBP, steals 2nd, advances to 3rd on a balk, and comes home on a ball thrown over the pitchers head by the catcher


There were quite a few posts in threads late this past season indicating that the Gozzo brothers were transferring and that their father really disliked Coach Jewett. Has anyone confirmed they're leaving or returning?

Word is Sal coming back Paul is not


So who will be our catcher?

Acy Owens JUCO catcher from Hinds Community College




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