Re: Potential coaching candidates 2018
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:20 pm
Very good point. Sad but true.Bigschtick wrote:Why would anybody want to come here!
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Very good point. Sad but true.Bigschtick wrote:Why would anybody want to come here!
Hiring Lane would be like hiring Harvey Weinstein.tpstulane wrote:Love to see Lane here.Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.
A lot of baggage for sure.HoustonWave wrote:Hiring Lane would be like hiring Harvey Weinstein.tpstulane wrote:Love to see Lane here.Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.
You know in two years or less if it’s going to work. Waiting 4-5 years like Tulane always does is insane. You go broke on Wall St holding a loser 4-5 years. No different here. Ask yourself how many years did Bowden and RR need?galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.
Bowden was an anomaly. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I do believe times have changed even since 98. Tulane sat on its ass too long and I'm not convinced it can be saved , much less find somebody worth a shit and stupid enough to try it out. If you're winning at fiu or utsa, you would have to be an absolute idiot to make a lateral move (to be kind) to come here, fail then you're coaching defensive backs at country day.tpstulane wrote:You know in two years or less if it’s going to work. Waiting 4-5 years like Tulane always does is insane. You go broke on Wall St holding a loser 4-5 years. No different here. Ask yourself how many years did Bowden and RR need?galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.
No. Bowden was a great hire. You know you said that to yourself when we got him. Now I agree things today are much different.galvezwave wrote:Bowden was an anomaly. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I do believe times have changed even since 98. Tulane sat on its ass too long and I'm not convinced it can be saved , much less find somebody worth a sh*t and stupid enough to try it out. If you're winning at fiu or utsa, you would have to be an absolute idiot to make a lateral move (to be kind) to come here, fail then you're coaching defensive backs at country day.tpstulane wrote:You know in two years or less if it’s going to work. Waiting 4-5 years like Tulane always does is insane. You go broke on Wall St holding a loser 4-5 years. No different here. Ask yourself how many years did Bowden and RR need?galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.
yea me neither!!! But boy it was great!!!galvezwave wrote:Yeah I did . I didn't know he was gonna go 12 and f'n 0. Lol
Galvez you correctly understand the conundrum that we are. Coach Fritz is our best hope BECAUSE anyone else would be a downgrade; coaches are afraid of us, as in how many turned us down before the Toledo and Johnson hires....galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.
Cowen didn’t like it because it took the spotlight off him.tpstulane wrote:yea me neither!!! But boy it was great!!!galvezwave wrote:Yeah I did . I didn't know he was gonna go 12 and f'n 0. Lol
Low bar syndrome from being a long time Tulane fan. Cowen mentality.nawlinspete wrote:Galvez you correctly understand the conundrum that we are. Coach Fritz is our best hope BECAUSE anyone else would be a downgrade; coaches are afraid of us, as in how many turned us down before the Toledo and Johnson hires....galvezwave wrote:We already have the reputation of a career killer, even though that's not really true. Good coaches have always won here. We just never hire any. Fritz losing looks bad because he is so well respected coming in. Warranted or not, he's never been a loser until it said Tulane across his chest. We NEED Willie to figure this out. Nobody worth a f*** would want it anyway, so pile on top of that the possibility of getting canned in less than 2 seasons? It's just not plausible for Tulane. Dangerous ground. Figure it out or get help, willie.
If Coach Fritz could hire a recruiter better than he is that would be a huge plus....
Yea. Good point. I hadn’t thought of that. You pass up an alum like Andy C who can you hire?msdos wrote:As much as I'd like to see Fritz gone tomorrow, and for today's game to be the last time I see that awful offense, I can't say that I'd be thrilled with Dannen failing on a 4th coach hire.
Low bar syndrome....Show Me wrote:Yea. Good point. I hadn’t thought of that. You pass up an alum like Andy C who can you hire?msdos wrote:As much as I'd like to see Fritz gone tomorrow, and for today's game to be the last time I see that awful offense, I can't say that I'd be thrilled with Dannen failing on a 4th coach hire.
you got me!nawlinspete wrote:Low bar syndrome....Show Me wrote:Yea. Good point. I hadn’t thought of that. You pass up an alum like Andy C who can you hire?msdos wrote:As much as I'd like to see Fritz gone tomorrow, and for today's game to be the last time I see that awful offense, I can't say that I'd be thrilled with Dannen failing on a 4th coach hire.
He applied for the job...but was told not to come...that said,,,WF will be here for at least two yearsPepper wrote:galvezwave wrote:Lol. Willie ain't goin no where for a while.
Knute Rockne couldnt win here.
That's because he recruited a certain QB that knows what it takes to win and has killer mentallity that wasn't even given a sniff by this coach. Would be a perfect fit for this crappy offense Tulane runs.tpstulane wrote:The current Nicholls St coach winning at that sh1t hole. The same can be done here.
Difference is back then we were a top program and hired a great coach anyway.golfnut69 wrote:He applied for the job...but was told not to come...that said,,,WF will be here for at least two yearsPepper wrote:galvezwave wrote:Lol. Willie ain't goin no where for a while.
Knute Rockne couldnt win here.
RICHROD!!! Spend the endowment on him it will be the best investment Tulane ever made.tpstulane wrote:Great.Aberzombie1892 wrote:Me too. I edited the initial post to add Iowa State‘s and TCU’s defensive coordinators since they have more than earned consideration.tpstulane wrote:Lane would be interesting.Aberzombie1892 wrote:Sonny Cumbie, Frank Wilson, Lane Kiffin, Butch Davis, Mike Yurcich, Todd Orlando, and Brent Venables.
I’m looking forward to winwave and sader’s picks.
Again the saddest thing is butch is better off where he is. He can get a good job from fiu. Same for Wilson. These guys will not jeopardize their careers to go backwards when they can win where they are and move UP in the coaching world. Tulane has to change a lot of things and it all starts in admissions and curriculums. Then talk about trying to play football. SMU went through the same thing, they were worse off than we are. But eventually they got it . We can only hope.wave97 wrote:This staff won in Statesboro with Jeff Monken's talent. The entire staff seem like decent people incapable of persuading talented players at primary positions sign.
This thing can get ugly fast Troy. Got Butch Davis on speed dial?
Admissions was long the main culprit. However we can now admit players at the NCAA minimums. It has put in at least 4 athlete friendly majors including health and wellness. It is the 67 years of losing and the HS facilities that prevent coaches from being able to recruit.galvezwave wrote:Again the saddest thing is butch is better off where he is. He can get a good job from fiu. Same for Wilson. These guys will not jeopardize their careers to go backwards when they can win where they are and move UP in the coaching world. Tulane has to change a lot of things and it all starts in admissions and curriculums. Then talk about trying to play football. SMU went through the same thing, they were worse off than we are. But eventually they got it . We can only hope.wave97 wrote:This staff won in Statesboro with Jeff Monken's talent. The entire staff seem like decent people incapable of persuading talented players at primary positions sign.
This thing can get ugly fast Troy. Got Butch Davis on speed dial?