With the LSU series (FB) effectively dead, who is our rival for the future?

[oliveandblue]

I honestly cannot figure out who is going to be our long-term rival. Everyone in the AAC either is on good terms with us (Memphis, Navy, SMU) or is occupied already (UCF/USF).

It kind of sucks to not have a fanbase that we can mutually go after for a season. I don't consider UL-Lafayette as a rival as we don't see enough of them and I'm actually not that bothered by them as a school.

Being a private school with a national student body doesn't help in this regard, either...

[Eaglewave]

We need to start winning some games before we even worry about a LSU series. Hell, our rival needs to be Temple after our last performance against them.

[Dave breslin]

I think our rival is US. We hate RD/SC. Beat them and we will be successful!

[winwave]

UMASS.

[sader24]

Was supposed to be USM. I'm not sure why we havent tried to schedule them instead of S.Alabama, UMASS, Army, Rice, ULL, etc. They have always brought a great crowd. I know they have their troubles, but I'd much rather play them than USA, UMASS, Army or Rice. I'm not a huge fan of playing ULL, but at least the atmosphere will be a good one.

[tpstulane]

Funny story on our conference mates on rivalry.
UCONN coach trying to make UCF his rival.
http://m.stamfordadvocate.com/sports/ar ... 313770.php

The "rivalry" appeared to catch UCF by surprise. The school issued a statement saying it did not have any involvement in the creation of the trophy or an annual rivalry game with UConn. UCF coach George O'Leary told reporters prior to a speaking engagement in Orlando last week he knew nothing about the "Civil Conflict."

"My experience is you're more likely to have a rivalry against a team closer to where you live," he said. "When you go 10 states away, I think it's hard."

Here's UCONN's coach on the rivalry.

They don't get to say whether they're our rival or not," Diaco told reporters during a Monday conference call. "We might not be their rival, but they don't get to say whether they're our rival. That's for us to decide."

[wave97]

George O'Leary is a Long Island guy & to his credit he still sounds like he hasn't left Islip. The Long Island Sound rivalry. It's too bad Coach O'Leary wasn't more forthcoming with his CV, he may still be coaching at Notre Dame.

[golfnut69]

until Tulane can prove ti can win on a consistent basis there is no rival to be worried about... this is about being competitive with your most hated rival, whomever it may be...at present Tulane is not competitive, and is taken for granted by everyone on the schedule as a win...

[winwave]

I like Arresco and everything he is doing to promote the conference. The one thing he should do though is try and get rivalries started. Navy being put in the west sort of messes things up but this is what I would do. Pair up Tulane -Houston,Navy-SMU, Tulsa and Memphis in the west. In the east it would be UCF-USF,ECU-Temple and Cincy and UCONN. They should all be the last game of the year.

[Jonathan]

The series is dead because Tulane unlike Vandy was stupid to leave the SEC. LSU recruits all five star athletes. We are lucky to get a three. We are fourth in recruiting in Louisiana after LSU, U La La and La Tech. Terrible. We should be 2 every year.

[msdos]

Was supposed to be USM. I'm not sure why we havent tried to schedule them instead of S.Alabama, UMASS, Army, Rice, ULL, etc. They have always brought a great crowd. I know they have their troubles, but I'd much rather play them than USA, UMASS, Army or Rice. I'm not a huge fan of playing ULL, but at least the atmosphere will be a good one.

C-USA really fucked up with this. The only 2 schools in their conference that had a trophy and they had us on opposite divisions.

The American may not be the long term answer, but holy shit, it's better than that dumb ass shit C-USA calls a conference.

[Aberzombie1892]

All of the following would be meaningful rivals:

Pre Power Conference:
USM
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Memphis
ULL
LaTech
BYU
Wake Forest
Arkansas State

Post Power Conference:
LSU
Vanderbilt
Georgia Tech
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
TCU
Baylor
Northwestern
Duke
Stanford
Miami
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
BYU
Wake Forest
Missouri
Rutgers
Texas
Maybe Texas Tech

The distinction is made because we need home and homes, which power foes won't do unless we are in a power conference, and we cannot schedule a ton of 2 or 3 for 1s against power foes and be successful. Once we are in a power conference, it will be easier to get 1 for 1s or neutral site games against power foes.

[Eaglewave]

ULL, USA or USM should be our only options. Some of you are crazy if you believe otherwise. We can't even beat those schools on a consistent basis and some are bringing up LSU and the SEC? Please!

Our administration doesn't want big time football and it isn't anything we can do about it! Why stress! I am just hoping that CJ and company schedule enough winnable non conference and hope for some conference wins that will send us to a few bowl games every year instead of watching us go 2-10 and 4-8 like many of you love so much. If we had a different AD and HC who were committed to winning and big time sports, I would be singing another tune and begging for LSU to be back on the list. However, that's not the case! This staff is 0-2 vs ULL with losses to USA, UTSA, FAU, and more programs that a FBS status university located in New Orleans should beat by 20 points!

[IM42lane]

Any of the other ball clubs in the American Ath. West division who would keep Tulane out of the postseason championship game. Quit worrying about what there was in the past. This is 2015 (the 1900's are OVER). Only be concerned with what is relevant at this point and time. ROLL WAVE!!!

[Eaglewave]

Any of the other ball clubs in the American Ath. West division who would keep Tulane out of the postseason championship game. Quit worrying about what there was in the past. This is 2015 (the 1900's are OVER). Only be concerned with what is relevant at this point and time. ROLL WAVE!!!

And our past isn't all that pretty!

[DfromCT]

All of the following would be meaningful rivals:

Pre Power Conference:
USM
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Memphis
ULL
LaTech
BYU
Wake Forest
Arkansas State

Post Power Conference:
LSU
Vanderbilt
Georgia Tech
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
TCU
Baylor
Northwestern
Duke
Stanford
Miami
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
BYU
Wake Forest
Missouri
Rutgers
Texas
Maybe Texas Tech

The distinction is made because we need home and homes, which power foes won't do unless we are in a power conference, and we cannot schedule a ton of 2 or 3 for 1s against power foes and be successful. Once we are in a power conference, it will be easier to get 1 for 1s or neutral site games against power foes.

Your post makes it seem like a done deal that Tulane will eventually get into a power conference. I say that, due to the (HUGE FAILURE) Tulane Model, we're less likely to get into a power conference than ever. We stand a better chance of having the AAC elevate into the sixth "Power" conference.

Cowen screwed us as President, and continues to do so today (and will into the foreseeable future.)

[Wave755]

The Tulane Community couldn't care less about "rivalries" with second tier regional state universities like USM, ULALA, La. Tech and Arkansas State. Why are you thinking like Dickson, we should have no "rivalry" with any university that is not a national university? An AAU national university like Tulane has nothing to win and even depreciates its image for "rivalries" against the likes of the Arkansas State, ULALA, USM and La. Techs of the world? Enough of the past already!

[oliveandblue]

The Tulane Community couldn't care less about "rivalries" with second tier regional state universities like USM, ULALA, La. Tech and Arkansas State. Why are you thinking like Dickson, we should have no "rivalry" with any university that is not a national university? An AAU national university like Tulane has nothing to win and even depreciates its image for "rivalries" against the likes of the Arkansas State, ULALA, USM and La. Techs of the world? Enough of the past already!

These are not academic rivalries - these are athletic ones. Some of the best rivalries are culture-shocks, anyway.

I would try to start a rivalry with SMU. We're divisional opponents and we are somewhat close in level right now. The games should be close and fun to watch.

[jonathanjoseph]

Was supposed to be USM. I'm not sure why we havent tried to schedule them instead of S.Alabama, UMASS, Army, Rice, ULL, etc. They have always brought a great crowd. I know they have their troubles, but I'd much rather play them than USA, UMASS, Army or Rice. I'm not a huge fan of playing ULL, but at least the atmosphere will be a good one.

C-USA really f**ked up with this. The only 2 schools in their conference that had a trophy and they had us on opposite divisions.

The American may not be the long term answer, but holy sh*t, it's better than that dumb ass sh*t C-USA calls a conference.

CUSA was horribly, pitifully run and the results are clear. Guess who first doubled down on his commitment to that conference and then became the Chairman of that conference? You really can't make this stuff up.

[jonathanjoseph]

I think our rival is US. We hate RD/SC. Beat them and we will be successful!

This.

[Wave755]

The Tulane Community couldn't care less about "rivalries" with second tier regional state universities like USM, ULALA, La. Tech and Arkansas State. Why are you thinking like Dickson, we should have no "rivalry" with any university that is not a national university? An AAU national university like Tulane has nothing to win and even depreciates its image for "rivalries" against the likes of the Arkansas State, ULALA, USM and La. Techs of the world? Enough of the past already!

These are not academic rivalries - these are athletic ones. Some of the best rivalries are culture-shocks, anyway.

I would try to start a rivalry with SMU. We're divisional opponents and we are somewhat close in level right now. The games should be close and fun to watch.

We played Vandy every year for over 80 years until the Brown Brothers ended that rivalry in the 1980s? SMU, Rice, Ga. Tech, Duke, and Wake Forest are all national private universities we can now play often enough to constitute rivals. When I was at Tulane I knew many a student from both the Northeast and West who had never heard of Southern Mississippi, much less ULALA or Arkansas State? In the seventies we even played Stanford, those are the days I seek a return to for rivals, playing Tulane is a compliment for a regional state university, for Tulane's students and fans playing a regional state university is just another reminder of our diminished status which we are now positioned to "overcome" for athletics.

[winwave]

The Tulane Community couldn't care less about "rivalries" with second tier regional state universities like USM, ULALA, La. Tech and Arkansas State. Why are you thinking like Dickson, we should have no "rivalry" with any university that is not a national university? An AAU national university like Tulane has nothing to win and even depreciates its image for "rivalries" against the likes of the Arkansas State, ULALA, USM and La. Techs of the world? Enough of the past already!

These are not academic rivalries - these are athletic ones. Some of the best rivalries are culture-shocks, anyway.

I would try to start a rivalry with SMU. We're divisional opponents and we are somewhat close in level right now. The games should be close and fun to watch.

We played Vandy every year for over 80 years until the Brown Brothers ended that rivalry in the 1980s? SMU, Rice, Ga. Tech, Duke, and Wake Forest are all national private universities we can now play often enough to constitute rivals. When I was at Tulane I knew many a student from both the Northeast and West who had never heard of Southern Mississippi, much less ULALA or Arkansas State? In the seventies we even played Stanford, those are the days I seek a return to for rivals, playing Tulane is a compliment for a regional state university, for Tulane's students and fans playing a regional state university is just another reminder of our diminished status which we are now positioned to "overcome" for athletics.

Much prefer Stanford,ND,USC and Miami.

[Aberzombie1892]

All of the following would be meaningful rivals:

Pre Power Conference:
USM
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Memphis
ULL
LaTech
BYU
Wake Forest
Arkansas State

Post Power Conference:
LSU
Vanderbilt
Georgia Tech
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
TCU
Baylor
Northwestern
Duke
Stanford
Miami
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
BYU
Wake Forest
Missouri
Rutgers
Texas
Maybe Texas Tech

The distinction is made because we need home and homes, which power foes won't do unless we are in a power conference, and we cannot schedule a ton of 2 or 3 for 1s against power foes and be successful. Once we are in a power conference, it will be easier to get 1 for 1s or neutral site games against power foes.

Your post makes it seem like a done deal that Tulane will eventually get into a power conference. I say that, due to the (HUGE FAILURE) Tulane Model, we're less likely to get into a power conference than ever. We stand a better chance of having the AAC elevate into the sixth "Power" conference.

Cowen screwed us as President, and continues to do so today (and will into the foreseeable future.)

If the power conferences expand to 16 or more or if there is a significant change in conference realignment concerning the Big 12/Pac 12/ACC, we are in even in our current situation. We are one of the most valuable schools outside of a power conference just by virtue of being the 2nd most attractive school in Louisiana, and being a member of the AAU doesn't hurt either.

[DfromCT]

The Tulane Community couldn't care less about "rivalries" with second tier regional state universities like USM, ULALA, La. Tech and Arkansas State. Why are you thinking like Dickson, we should have no "rivalry" with any university that is not a national university? An AAU national university like Tulane has nothing to win and even depreciates its image for "rivalries" against the likes of the Arkansas State, ULALA, USM and La. Techs of the world? Enough of the past already!

These are not academic rivalries - these are athletic ones. Some of the best rivalries are culture-shocks, anyway.

I would try to start a rivalry with SMU. We're divisional opponents and we are somewhat close in level right now. The games should be close and fun to watch.

We played Vandy every year for over 80 years until the Brown Brothers ended that rivalry in the 1980s? SMU, Rice, Ga. Tech, Duke, and Wake Forest are all national private universities we can now play often enough to constitute rivals. When I was at Tulane I knew many a student from both the Northeast and West who had never heard of Southern Mississippi, much less ULALA or Arkansas State? In the seventies we even played Stanford, those are the days I seek a return to for rivals, playing Tulane is a compliment for a regional state university, for Tulane's students and fans playing a regional state university is just another reminder of our diminished status which we are now positioned to "overcome" for athletics.

Much prefer Stanford,ND,USC and Miami.

SMU makes more sense than any of the above, which would want us to play 2 or 3 for 1's. ND is an exception; I'd play them on their terms for the exposure, if we were headed in the right direction. At least with SMU we have a program that's going to be on our schedule every year, and isn't out of our stratosphere in terms of competitiveness. At this time we'd get crushed by Stanford, ND, USC and Miami. OU is going to put a beating on us, too.

[Wave755]

And, being in the City of New Orleans doesn't hurt either, does it? Competent leadership and "the sky is the limit," forget about Arkansas State, ULALA & USM (Forbes 553). Cowen squandered 1998 but new opportunities abound for Tulane athletics.