CJ's Recruiting Dud

Ruski · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:13 am

Latest recruiting ranking according to 247 Sports has Tulane 10/11 AAC teams, only beating out Tulsa. But at least Tulsa has a 4 Star recruit....

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footba ... erence=AAC

Eaglewave · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:44 am

CJ better step it up a bit. He doesn't know talent though.

Dr. Rosenrosen · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:45 am

I'm a bit concerned at this point. But recruiting rankings are a function of your program's prestige at a given time. For example, if a player commits to Tulane/Wyoming/New Mexico State, he's not getting four (or even three) stars.

Now I do think the 2016 La. class is loaded. But Tulane can't afford another 3-9 season to secure a good class.

Robert1969 · Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:06 am

Ruski wrote:Latest recruiting ranking according to 247 Sports has Tulane 10/11 AAC teams, only beating out Tulsa. But at least Tulsa has a 4 Star recruit....

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footba ... erence=AAC

Tulane is going to have a small class which is going to hurt their standings here. The ranking isn't merely based on number of three and four star recruits you have. These services consider both quantity and quality. I pointed out in the Surf's Up Forum that 8 of the 11 commits Tulane had listed at ESPN had three stars, and that 11 of the 15 recruits Tulane has committed had three stars at at least one recruiting service. Tulane has had bigger classes in the past, but from my memory, this is the highest percentage of three star recruits we have had in quite some time.

Dr. Rosenrosen · Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:17 am

Rivals shows that TU has one 3 star recruit (Anderson). The others are all two stars or less.

jonathanjoseph · Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:46 am

Robert1969 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Latest recruiting ranking according to 247 Sports has Tulane 10/11 AAC teams, only beating out Tulsa. But at least Tulsa has a 4 Star recruit....

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footba ... erence=AAC
Tulane is going to have a small class which is going to hurt their standings here. The ranking isn't merely based on number of three and four star recruits you have. These services consider both quantity and quality. I pointed out in the Surf's Up Forum that 8 of the 11 commits Tulane had listed at ESPN had three stars, and that 11 of the 15 recruits Tulane has committed had three stars at at least one recruiting service. Tulane has had bigger classes in the past, but from my memory, this is the highest percentage of three star recruits we have had in quite some time.

As has also been noted elsewhere, being a 3 star at ESPN isn't very exclusive.

winwave · Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:06 pm

Robert1969 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Latest recruiting ranking according to 247 Sports has Tulane 10/11 AAC teams, only beating out Tulsa. But at least Tulsa has a 4 Star recruit....

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footba ... erence=AAC
Tulane is going to have a small class which is going to hurt their standings here. The ranking isn't merely based on number of three and four star recruits you have. These services consider both quantity and quality. I pointed out in the Surf's Up Forum that 8 of the 11 commits Tulane had listed at ESPN had three stars, and that 11 of the 15 recruits Tulane has committed had three stars at at least one recruiting service. Tulane has had bigger classes in the past, but from my memory, this is the highest percentage of three star recruits we have had in quite some time.

A long time poster on the other site and the wave report site recently pointed out in a post on the wave report how there is clearly an inflation by several of the services to give out more three star rankings. He went through each service and pointed out also how Tulane's were on the bottom edge of the cut off between 3 and 2 stars in each of the service's rankings. Check it out if you are a member. Plus as noted above here Rivals only has one or two w/three stars at this time.

Bigschtick · Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:55 pm

Dr. Rosenrosen wrote:Rivals shows that TU has one 3 star recruit (Anderson). The others are all two stars or less.

Thats what I saw as well. Just ONE three star with oral commitment only.

oliveandblue · Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:22 pm

CJ is going to be in trouble after this season - unless he's hiding an ace in his sleeve that I don't know about.

tjtlja06 · Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:56 pm

This class could be the best he has recruited. The recruiting guru's in Louisiana love this class. Full of athletes. In two year's we will know the results. And anyone that thinks stars aren't handed out to LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Penn State, USC, Michigan, etc., etc., etc., must live in Colorado. And I would certainly believe that given the constant ridiculous over and over and over and over negativity toward anything that is Tulane athletics. If I was that friggin miserable, I surely would find something else to do - like get a life.

Jonathan · Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:22 pm

This is the worst recruiting season by CJ ever. Rick Dickson is paying over a million dollars a year to him for winning a three game losing season and no bowl game. CJ needs to be replaced for a young aggressive rising coach. Rick loved Scelfo and Toledo with contract extensions. Fire Rick Dickson now! 247 is a great consensus of the other ranking sites. . Last year we had a large three star group and one or two fours. This year nothing! Pathetic!

Aberzombie1892 · Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:26 pm

Robert1969 wrote:
Ruski wrote:Latest recruiting ranking according to 247 Sports has Tulane 10/11 AAC teams, only beating out Tulsa. But at least Tulsa has a 4 Star recruit....

http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footba ... erence=AAC
Tulane is going to have a small class which is going to hurt their standings here. The ranking isn't merely based on number of three and four star recruits you have. These services consider both quantity and quality. I pointed out in the Surf's Up Forum that 8 of the 11 commits Tulane had listed at ESPN had three stars, and that 11 of the 15 recruits Tulane has committed had three stars at at least one recruiting service. Tulane has had bigger classes in the past, but from my memory, this is the highest percentage of three star recruits we have had in quite some time.

The recruiting class appears to be pretty solid so far, regardless of what Rivals or 247 thinks. Even if someone doesn't like espn's rating system, even ESPN has the average rating per recruit higher than last year.

Pullinmyhairout · Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:51 pm

247 is missing at least 3 of our commits.

Jonathan · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:38 pm

I rely on 247. They take the average of the other recruiting services . It is a great service and if your team is low like Tulane in recruiting you attempt as Tulane supporters to put it down. 247 gave us great three star scores last year. But everyone in the nation respects this service. Have a good day. Sadler I know your support for Tulane but I think you are wrong about Tulane recruiting. We do not have the three or four star athletes we had last year. We only compete with ULL ,Southern Miss and La. tech in recruiting. Most people will cancel their TAF donations and season tickets next year after three wins and a losing season and no bowl game.

sader24 · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:38 pm

The problem with Tulane football this past season was not talent. Call CJ out for whatever you want, but his recruiting and talent evaluation has proven to be pretty solid thus far. I think this class is a good one thus far, also Brian Webb isn't listed on any site as a commit and the WR from Mc35 who is supposedly close to committing hasn't committed yet. I think Dedrick Shy will end up being the best CB we've had since CJ got here.

Jonathan · Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:49 pm

But why did we have a disastrous losing season winning only three games one against a Division 2 opponent ? Also no bowl game yet we are paying our coach over a million dollars a year!

jonathanjoseph · Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:22 pm

sader24 wrote:The problem with Tulane football this past season was not talent. Call CJ out for whatever you want, but his recruiting and talent evaluation has proven to be pretty solid thus far. I think this class is a good one thus far, also Brian Webb isn't listed on any site as a commit and the WR from Mc35 who is supposedly close to committing hasn't committed yet. I think Dedrick Shy will end up being the best CB we've had since CJ got here.

Totally agree on CJ. Not sure about the recruiting class though he's earned the benefit of the doubt on recruiting from me. Interesting take on Shy.

Bigschtick · Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:08 am

[quote="oliveandblue"]CJ is going to be in trouble after this season - unless he's hiding an ace in his sleeve that I don't know about.[/quote

The way he has coached this season certainly makes it clear he can't hide anything including the fact that he is
not up to the task of being a head coach!

golfnut69 · Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:38 am

Bigschtick wrote:
oliveandblue wrote:CJ is going to be in trouble after this season - unless he's hiding an ace in his sleeve that I don't know about.[/quote

The way he has coached this season certainly makes it clear he can't hide anything including the fact that he is
not up to the task of being a head coach!

from me and the Dawg....A BIG Plus one !!!!!

tjtlja06 · Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:53 pm

CJ will do just fine. Next year will be a good year for us.

IM42lane · Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:55 pm

tjtlja06 wrote:CJ will do just fine. Next year will be a good year for us.

We NEED to COUNT ON THAT!!!!

Jonathan · Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:22 pm

Next year will be a good year for us.? Are you serious? Another three win losing season with a small lowly two star recruiting class. Get serious! Yulman stadium will be less than fifty percent full next year like the Superdome because of a poor product and lowly two star recruits.

Eaglewave · Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:07 am

IM42lane wrote:
tjtlja06 wrote:CJ will do just fine. Next year will be a good year for us.
We NEED to COUNT ON THAT!!!!

+1

DfromCT · Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:51 am

Jonathan wrote:But why did we have a disastrous losing season winning only three games one against a Division 2 opponent ? Also no bowl game yet we are paying our coach over a million dollars a year!

Jonathan, please, if you're going to post this crap, at least be accurate. One of our wins was against an FCS team, we didn't play any D2 teams this past year.

DfromCT · Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:54 am

tjtlja06 wrote:CJ will do just fine. Next year will be a good year for us.

I'd love to share your optimism, but with no changes in the coaching staff, we can expect the same crap we saw as the season progressed. If the "young team" we were putting on the field improved, I'd be more optimistic. Instead, it regressed as the season wore on. I can only pray that RD retires, and a new AD is hiring a new coach if we have anything less than 6 wins next year.