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Opening at College of Charleston win / win for Conroy, College of Charleston, and Tulane.
Is this a joke. Conroy should never have been hired by Tulane and fired after first season. He cannot recruit blue chip players. The one or two he did recruit deserted him and Tulane. Fire him and his staff now. Spend a million dollar plus on a quality coach.
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Perry Clark had no problem doing so.sader24 wrote:Pretty hard to recruit Blue Chip players when you play in a high school gym.
Dave Dickerson even had a great class lined up that Katrina ruined.
We have the arena as well as Devlin/Fogelman. We play in one of the top conferences and all conference games are televised. We have an outstanding practice facility. The gym, in and of itself, is not the problem. Do we need a better facility? For sure. But we also need better recruiting using what positives we have.
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The landscape over the past decade has changed. The recruiting budgets, coaching salaries, the AAU stuff, TV money and asset investments have gone nuts. Recruits look at facilties as being almost as important as league and history. That being said, the recruiting under EC should be better. It's shocking to me that the move to the AAC coupled with the huge need for bigs resulted in guys with virtually no big time offers. A new coach would do wonders but so wouldn't a new/larger arena.DfromCT wrote:Perry Clark had no problem doing so.sader24 wrote:Pretty hard to recruit Blue Chip players when you play in a high school gym.
Dave Dickerson even had a great class lined up that Katrina ruined.
We have the arena as well as Devlin/Fogelman. We play in one of the top conferences and all conference games are televised. We have an outstanding practice facility. The gym, in and of itself, is not the problem. Do we need a better facility? For sure. But we also need better recruiting using what positives we have.
I think it's a bit crazy to expect a guy to able to recruit in a shoebox. Perry Clark recruited to it 15+ years ago. Holy Cross' gym is more impressive than Fogleman or whatever they want to call it these days. Now if he could go load up on Juco's that would be a different story, but he cant.
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Because the long term game plan was to be using the New Orleans Arena, which Eamon Kelly pushed for, and that's what they told recruits.DfromCT wrote:Perry Clark had no problem doing so.sader24 wrote:Pretty hard to recruit Blue Chip players when you play in a high school gym.
Tulane sports: small football stadium, very small basketball arena, w̶i̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶a̶m̶s̶, h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ , but, hey, now there's tailgating.
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See my other post.sader24 wrote:I think it's a bit crazy to expect a guy to able to recruit in a shoebox. Perry Clark recruited to it 15+ years ago. Holy Cross' gym is more impressive than Fogleman or whatever they want to call it these days. Now if he could go load up on Juco's that would be a different story, but he cant.
Eamon Kelly was pushing for the downtown arena back in the 1990s and that was supposed to be the home of TU bball and they told that to recruits.
BTW as far as jucos, let's see, Michael Christian, Greg Gary, Matt Greene, Wade Mason, Marlo Miles, Patrick Lewis (have I missed anyone?) all jucos.
Tulane sports: small football stadium, very small basketball arena, w̶i̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶a̶m̶s̶, h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ , but, hey, now there's tailgating.
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Interesting thought.Fred Dowler wrote:Because the long term game plan was to be using the New Orleans Arena, which Eamon Kelly pushed for, and that's what they told recruits.DfromCT wrote:Perry Clark had no problem doing so.sader24 wrote:Pretty hard to recruit Blue Chip players when you play in a high school gym.
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DrBox wrote:Indeed.Show Me wrote:Quit making excuses. Devlin is small but it not a high school gym. Conroy has a state of the art practice facility and the AAC.
But isn't that sort of the point, how do we avoid being the Depaul of the AAC when our home arena is literally more than 50% smaller than the next closest AAC school. TU sits 3,200 with no revenue generating seats and the next closest is ECU at 8,000. That's totally messed up. Maybe we can build up some momentum and have a Duke like feel, but I have my doubts as the recruiting game has become so fierce.
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That's fair but it has nothing to do with Conroy's recruiting failures. Do not confuse the two. He can always bring recruits to Smoothie King Arena when the Pelicans play and tell them "we play here as well". Please no more excuses. It's time for Conroy to deliver.mbawavefan12 wrote:DrBox wrote:Indeed.Show Me wrote:Quit making excuses. Devlin is small but it not a high school gym. Conroy has a state of the art practice facility and the AAC.
But isn't that sort of the point, how do we avoid being the Depaul of the AAC when our home arena is literally more than 50% smaller than the next closest AAC school. TU sits 3,200 with no revenue generating seats and the next closest is ECU at 8,000. That's totally messed up. Maybe we can build up some momentum and have a Duke like feel, but I have my doubts as the recruiting game has become so fierce.
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Conroy is a joke of a recruiter and it has nothing to do with FogleDev. He could have the Taj Mahal and it wouldn't matter. He keeps handing out scholarships to church boys from California. Roberts Jr was going to prep school until Conroy threw him a lifeline. Tulane gave him a terrific facility and great basketball league and he still hasn't figured it out. There's no excuse for this. It's going go to be an ugly inaugaral season for Tulane in the AAC. Fire Rick Dickson!
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JDTulane wrote:misleading title is misleading.
plus 1 and entirely inappropriate Pete!
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