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tjtlja06 wrote:Just have fun. Go fishing, play golf, give yourself a break. Have you ever heard the word obsession. This is sports, athletic competition. It isn't a cure for cancer. Just give yourself a break.
It is not a cure for cancer. Nice strawman. It may not be a cure for cancer, but it still matters to a lot of people. And you don't have a right to dismiss people's feeling on this simply because athletics aren't as important as some other matter.

Pleasure is a psychological need. Humans cannot survive psychologically without various pleasures in their lives. So it is perfectly legit to scream, holler, and cuss, when something that gives you pleasure is neglected. It isn't a zero sum game where you either care passionately about cures for cancer or you care passionately about athletics.


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tjtlja06 wrote:Jonathan, you and your buddies must be in hog heaven today. Friday the 13th and lots of ammunition after yesterday. Here is a suggestion, take a weekend off and go play some golf, or go fishing, or go to the casino. It has been a great year for you and your buddies. You are too high to think straight. Take a break. Come down from that high you are on. Your job will be safe on Monday and who knows, your little group might have some ammunition on the baseball front. So go do what you do to relax. Have a great weekend. Give yourself a break to clear the head and go have a blue chip weekend.
Jonathan wrote:You disagree with me that Rick Dickson should be retired and Conroy fired for five years of losing seasons in league play and not recruiting blue chip players? Are you happy following an empty Tulane basketball arena watching these losers? Do you want a new coach to bring us back to the NCAA tournament after 20 years and a top 25 ranking?
Hey!! Stop feeding our monkey!! You have plenty of those on the other board.
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Robert1969 wrote:The fact is, the administration doesn't care. The fact that Conroy is still around is disheartening to say the least. It is mindboggling. And the only conclusion to draw is that the administration does NOT want a successful athletic department. In fact, they probably don't want an athletic department at all. I don't believe that whatever anti-athletic department feelings that existsed in the 2003 review has gone away. Failure appears to be the game plan. It is getting harder to pretend that next year will be different.

If Tulane had a drop of piss worth of ambition in regards to its athletic department we would get rid of Conroy, gotten rid of the Price brothers, and forcibly remove the Saints playbook from CH's hands. And CJ would be on the hotseat this year.

Unfortunately, that is not the case, and it is getting harder to remain a Tulane fan. My heart is still there, but my survival instincts are telling me I am going to lose my mind if I keep putting up with this.
I think for years they had this higher then thou approach to athletics in so much that TU would do things right and create real student athletes. For years schools like Northwestern and Vandy basically had the same sort of POV. Then the money blew up and TU tried to stay the course all while other academically oriented privates began investing and realizing the value of athletics. As usual SC was late to the game and finally realized how much damage the failed athletic department was doing to TU's brand. I truly believe that they then wanted to win but between incompetence and facing yearly $20mm deficits, it was too late. We have a athletic department bleeding money, a university bleeding money, debts piling up and they simply won't pay a buyout instead they will hold out some insane hope that EC is the guy. RD and the board fool themselves into thinking things are going in the right directions with increased budgets, new football stadium and the AAC invite. In reality we were lucky for the invite and are the worst program in the conference by a wide margin. Not to mention we are at the bottom of the AAC as far as ahtletic budgets and Fitts already said that the budget will remain the same. I also believe there is a quid pro quo of sorts going on as EC brought in some decent donors.

It really feels hopeless and I see little brightness ahead for football. I will keep watching games and at least baseball is on solid footing, for now.
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tjtlja06 wrote:Jonathan, you and your buddies must be in hog heaven today. Friday the 13th and lots of ammunition after yesterday. Here is a suggestion, take a weekend off and go play some golf, or go fishing, or go to the casino. It has been a great year for you and your buddies. You are too high to think straight. Take a break. Come down from that high you are on. Your job will be safe on Monday and who knows, your little group might have some ammunition on the baseball front. So go do what you do to relax. Have a great weekend. Give yourself a break to clear the head and go have a blue chip weekend.
Jonathan wrote:You disagree with me that Rick Dickson should be retired and Conroy fired for five years of losing seasons in league play and not recruiting blue chip players? Are you happy following an empty Tulane basketball arena watching these losers? Do you want a new coach to bring us back to the NCAA tournament after 20 years and a top 25 ranking?
Hey!! Stop feeding our monkey!! You have plenty of those on the other board.
Huge +1. I have no idea what people are thinking replying to this nonsense in a serious manner.
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I will have to seriously consider NOT renewing my $600 worth of basketball season tickets.
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Robert1969 wrote:The fact is, the administration doesn't care. The fact that Conroy is still around is disheartening to say the least. It is mindboggling. And the only conclusion to draw is that the administration does NOT want a successful athletic department. In fact, they probably don't want an athletic department at all. I don't believe that whatever anti-athletic department feelings that existsed in the 2003 review has gone away. Failure appears to be the game plan. It is getting harder to pretend that next year will be different.

If Tulane had a drop of piss worth of ambition in regards to its athletic department we would get rid of Conroy, gotten rid of the Price brothers, and forcibly remove the Saints playbook from CH's hands. And CJ would be on the hotseat this year.

Unfortunately, that is not the case, and it is getting harder to remain a Tulane fan. My heart is still there, but my survival instincts are telling me I am going to lose my mind if I keep putting up with this.
I think for years they had this higher then thou approach to athletics in so much that TU would do things right and create real student athletes. For years schools like Northwestern and Vandy basically had the same sort of POV. Then the money blew up and TU tried to stay the course all while other academically oriented privates began investing and realizing the value of athletics. As usual SC was late to the game and finally realized how much damage the failed athletic department was doing to TU's brand. I truly believe that they then wanted to win but between incompetence and facing yearly $20mm deficits, it was too late. We have a athletic department bleeding money, a university bleeding money, debts piling up and they simply won't pay a buyout instead they will hold out some insane hope that EC is the guy. RD and the board fool themselves into thinking things are going in the right directions with increased budgets, new football stadium and the AAC invite. In reality we were lucky for the invite and are the worst program in the conference by a wide margin. Not to mention we are at the bottom of the AAC as far as ahtletic budgets and Fitts already said that the budget will remain the same. I also believe there is a quid pro quo of sorts going on as EC brought in some decent donors.

It really feels hopeless and I see little brightness ahead for football. I will keep watching games and at least baseball is on solid footing, for now.
If your interpretation is correct, then 1) Cowen misread the tea leaves on one of the biggest issues in higher ed of the last 20 years and then 2) in a poorly conceived attempt to address that mistake spent $100M on athletic facilities that you are deeming a failure before they are even paid for.

And we've read suggestions that the next athletic facilities being planned are for Olympic sports. Because I guess the revenue sports are all set.

How many 8 and 9-figure mistakes does Cowen/Dickson get to make, at the expense of Tulane University, before legal action is taken? The Board is absolutely liable to ensure this doesn't continue.
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Conroy will be back next year. It's done.

The focus should not be on Conroy. It needs to be on RD. Fitts needs to get some candid feedback from fans ASAP. Enough is enough. I will not be renewing my football season tickets and will go another season without renewing my basketball tickets.

They really do make it hard to be a Tulane fan.
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Respectfully disagree with you. Rick Dickson should be retired and Conroy fired now for five years of losing,not recruiting blue chip players,never getting to the top 25 or NCAA tournament for 20 years. A disgrace! As we all know Dickson does not fire his big loser coaches but extends their contract and raises their salary a la Toledo. President Fitts wake up and address our two main athletic problems,Dickson and Conroy. Email Fitts. Dickson you have made some great hires. Finney,Dickerson,Conroy and Toledo,all losers. You have brought Tulane athletics to its knees. No one in the stands. To top it all you extend these losers contracts and increase their salaries . Three wins and give CJ over a million dollars a year salary! Crazy!
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mbawavefan12 wrote:
Robert1969 wrote:The fact is, the administration doesn't care. The fact that Conroy is still around is disheartening to say the least. It is mindboggling. And the only conclusion to draw is that the administration does NOT want a successful athletic department. In fact, they probably don't want an athletic department at all. I don't believe that whatever anti-athletic department feelings that existsed in the 2003 review has gone away. Failure appears to be the game plan. It is getting harder to pretend that next year will be different.

If Tulane had a drop of piss worth of ambition in regards to its athletic department we would get rid of Conroy, gotten rid of the Price brothers, and forcibly remove the Saints playbook from CH's hands. And CJ would be on the hotseat this year.

Unfortunately, that is not the case, and it is getting harder to remain a Tulane fan. My heart is still there, but my survival instincts are telling me I am going to lose my mind if I keep putting up with this.
I think for years they had this higher then thou approach to athletics in so much that TU would do things right and create real student athletes. For years schools like Northwestern and Vandy basically had the same sort of POV. Then the money blew up and TU tried to stay the course all while other academically oriented privates began investing and realizing the value of athletics. As usual SC was late to the game and finally realized how much damage the failed athletic department was doing to TU's brand. I truly believe that they then wanted to win but between incompetence and facing yearly $20mm deficits, it was too late. We have a athletic department bleeding money, a university bleeding money, debts piling up and they simply won't pay a buyout instead they will hold out some insane hope that EC is the guy. RD and the board fool themselves into thinking things are going in the right directions with increased budgets, new football stadium and the AAC invite. In reality we were lucky for the invite and are the worst program in the conference by a wide margin. Not to mention we are at the bottom of the AAC as far as ahtletic budgets and Fitts already said that the budget will remain the same. I also believe there is a quid pro quo of sorts going on as EC brought in some decent donors.

It really feels hopeless and I see little brightness ahead for football. I will keep watching games and at least baseball is on solid footing, for now.

Sad, but true. The reason Tulane didn't see the new world order (as nearly everyone else has) is simple. Tulane's administrative and Board leadership is just not as smart as those of the other universities. In fact, when you consider the lame brain moves over the past 65 years, it is amazing how stupid Tulane's leadership as been, over and over again. It has become indigenous, in Tulane's leadership, to be blind to new trends, and continually fall behind the curve. Too Little, Too Late should be our university motto.
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Oliver Purnell resigns at Depaul. His RPI's:

217, 196, 202, 151, 195

Average RPI: 192



Tulane's RPI under Ed Conroy:

230, 239, 179, 223, 207

Average RPI: 215


Grant fired at Bama, RPIs:

66, 34, 60, 124, 84
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Houston,Tulane with Conroy and East Carolina with their win loss records, poor RPI ,terrible recruiting and cupcake pre conference schedules are dragging the conference down to get 5 NCAA bids. Hopefully Houston with their new coach can turn it around. Not Tulane after five years.
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Conroy retained for '15-'16 (and after going 15-16, ironically), per Kushner on Twitter
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bananax07 wrote:Conroy retained for '15-'16 (and after going 15-16, ironically), per Kushner on Twitter
No surprise there. 2015-16 needs to be at least an NIT bid IMO for EC to be retained.
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Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
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Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
c'mon...do you need a "primer"....No "buy out" monies...no "relo fees" for the new hires... no money to be spent on new"name plates" for desk and doors.... and the list goes on at penny pinching Tulane Athletics
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Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
Good question. It's more what he hasn't done I guess. Tulane people tell me because we were in most of the games we played this year. Last year in CUSA that wasn't always true (many blowouts). The team has improved against better competition. The only thing is that it was only a slight improvement and is slow. I'm hearing that they also think he should be allowed a year or so to recruit to this new league. Lisa has produced in her first year but that program has always been in better shape thanks to Lisa staying around so long. Just trying to answer here, not give any opinion.
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Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
In NCAA Div 1 Mens College basketball, there is no basis or reasoning that supports retaining EC. The only reason to keep EC is to run it cheap or deliberately tank a season. Those are cause and effect as well.

We may see some players leaving, good and bad. Just speculation, but winners want to be part of a program that is pushing towards winning. Actions like keeping coaches that have not had a winning conference record in 5 years (4 years being in a bad basketball conference), that is not pushing towards winning.
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tpstulane wrote:
Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
I'm hearing that they also think he should be allowed a year or so to recruit to this new league.
That just galls me.
He has had TWO years to recruit into the new league. We announced the AAC in November 2012. What happened in the spring of 2013? His 2 best players left town (one of whom would have played a season in the AAC).
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tpstulane wrote:
Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
I'm hearing that they also think he should be allowed a year or so to recruit to this new league.
That just galls me.
He has had TWO years to recruit into the new league. We announced the AAC in November 2012. What happened in the spring of 2013? His 2 best players left town (one of whom would have played a season in the AAC).[/quote

ya already know the answer...the recruits are afraid of the competition !!!!
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tpstulane wrote:
bananax07 wrote:Conroy retained for '15-'16 (and after going 15-16, ironically), per Kushner on Twitter
No surprise there. 2015-16 needs to be at least an NIT bid IMO for EC to be retained.
If we are even remotely in the discussion for the NIT (basically top100 RPI) he will be retained. GUARANTEED. He has an average rpi of 200+ in five years, an improvement of 100 spots would be considered an amazing year by RD and the admin.
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Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
Rick Dickson.
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tpstulane wrote:
Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
Good question. It's more what he hasn't done I guess. Tulane people tell me because we were in most of the games we played this year. Last year in CUSA that wasn't always true (many blowouts). The team has improved against better competition. The only thing is that it was only a slight improvement and is slow. I'm hearing that they also think he should be allowed a year or so to recruit to this new league. Lisa has produced in her first year but that program has always been in better shape thanks to Lisa staying around so long. Just trying to answer here, not give any opinion.
They are lying to you or they are being lied to. It's one or the other. But it does not have to do with wins and losses and has to do with finances and power (specifically, loyalty to the corrupt existing power structure).
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Highwave wrote:Not surprised but more than a bit curious re: the basis for retaining Conroy. Can someone please give me the logic behind it?

What has he done to inspire any confidence in a turnaround next year?
Rick Dickson.
Which is to say, Scott Cowen.
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