"Weak basketball schedule hurts Wave" ....The Hullabaloo

[Krewe of Ham & Eggs]

Sure it shows progress, but you said close to .500 is great. That's bullsh*t.

NO not stand alone great. Great relative to the last years in Tulane basketball. There is a difference. Stop trying to isolate the words and take them out of context.

Thats my opinion. Yours might be 0 to 60 with nothing inbetween and take that as accetable to you maybe I dont know exactly how you would view progress but to me thats just setting an impossible or almost impossible task.

I dont expect you to have my opinion I just expect you to realize that there has been progress and the powers in charge will more than likely agree that progress has been made. So if you are saying Conroy should be replaced based on bringing Tulane a winning season in his third year and showing he can now compete in league play then you have set yourself up for more complaining in the future.

GW, your an effin loser. Your so far off in left field it isn't even funny. Unfortunatly, many in our A.D. think like you.

They are one and the same. Green Wave works in the Wilson Center. You can assume for all intents and purposes that whatever Green Wave posts is Rick Dickson's position on the matter. But back in reality yes he is a loser and off in left field.

[wavedat]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

Good post. Shame it's wasted as this site is becoming like the other site. A bunch of losers who can't bear to hear how bad our athletic program is. The nation laughs but they still want to delude themselves w/the belief that it's just a small lunatic fringe who see's it differently than them.

[Green Wave]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

[jonathanjoseph]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

Sure enough. The athletic department is satisfied with this "progress". See how smart it was to sell a few extra tickets for the Ga Tech game last year? Us dummies don't realize how smart this scheduling strategy really is

[JDTulane]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

Sure enough. The athletic department is satisfied with this "progress". See how smart it was to sell a few extra tickets for the Ga Tech game last year? Us dummies don't realize how smart this scheduling strategy really is

GW the competition is so watered down for EC than it was PC it isn't even funny. I'm green glasses and I can see that BS.

[wavedat]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

The ooc is so weak the 20 number is meaningless here. It's like our baseball schedule last year. When the people that count look at our record they see that as maybe 28 wins in baseball. Our 20 in basketball would look more like 12 wins to them. No one but the enablers are fooled by these phony numbers our weak schedules produce.

[mbawavefan12]

Under your scenario Tulane does not get better because after all they played a week preconference slate. But, here now we have imporved over last years conference record. it wont be by one game either.

Tulane has won a road game against a conference opponent for the first time in just about two years. How did we do that with that weak schedule. For the first time in 3 years we beat the crap out memphis for a half and we are halfway through CUSA with almost an even record.

Wow. We won a road game. After Conroy going 1/18 or so, we finally win one. Yep, that weak scheduling sure does help.
You act like wining a road game is some accomplishment. To the world of low-standards, it possibly is. But really, is wining 1 road game and "improving" over last year's disgraceful 3 wins a real accomplishment? Goodness, gracious, get some standards man.
What good does weak scheduling do us, except to help coddle coaches (something Dickson has been doing for a decade)? What are the benefits?
On the other hand, the costs are enormous. You lose fan interest, attendance, respect, and NCAA berths (NCAA post season SHOULD be the only acceptable real goal, not nonsense like "winning seasons"). You inflate win totals, but to what end? Nothing is helped, except for the coach job security and running a program to help the coach is illegitimate. It sure hasn't helped recruiting.
YOu either make the NCAA tournament or you don't. That should be the main expectation. Coach coddling and low standards need to be driven from the athletic department. And that includes schedule numbing, that serves no purpose.
So I ask again, what GOOD does weak scheduling do?

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

The ooc is so weak the 20 number is meaningless here. It's like our baseball schedule last year. When the people that count look at our record they see that as maybe 28 wins in baseball. Our 20 in basketball would look more like 12 wins to them. No one but the enablers are fooled by these phony numbers our weak schedules produce.

If this is a new age of TU athletics where sustainability, profitability and butts in the seat matter, then the goal has to be a perennial NCAA bubble team and not just "progress". Talk to me about why EC is the coach to bring long term stability to this program. The improvement in conference wins is a positive but I question the talent in this league, EC's recruiting and on court coaching. I also am highly skeptical of a coach that goes 2-18 over his last 20 conf road games. What frustrates me is the lack of expectations from our friendly TU athletic department spokesperson, furthermore, next year will be a paramount year to establish something viable before moving into the nBE. My point, I think there are better candidates available and there is a very large risk that the program regresses and we are starting over just as we joining a new conference. We still have 7 games to evaluate, however, I need to see more then just we improved in the conf W/L. Frankly the poor non-conf schedule really hurts as far as assessing the coach. Let's say CUSA is actually much worse then the already poor RPI, then we could be re-upping a coach who has accomplished nothing despite the improving conference record.

[DrBox]

The season is not over and here is what we have:

2010: 8 wins 3 conference wins

CONROY
2011: 13 wins 3 conference wins
2012: 15 wins 3 conference wins
2013: 16 wins with 7+ games left to play of which we are favored in 4 of them which would bring us to 8 conference victories for the first time in 5 years!

Trivia time. Only one basketball coach in Tulane history has made the NCAA tournament. 1. PC.

So no dispute, we are progressing so far.

BTW the home game against GT last year was a great success in part because Tulane was undefeated (8-0). At 4 and 4 going into that game and the fan turnout would have been miserable.

So unless u book it as the first game of the season at home you pretty much get nothing in return. What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

4 wins is NOT progress. Look at what Moir and Fowler did as well. They would have made the NCAA and more NITs with today's access. Easily. Moir plays a North Carolina team with 5 NBA starters to 4 OTs and you equate that with a Conroy loss to San Diego. You are trying to JUSTIFY poor results. How in the world is 4 conference wins and 2 road wins in 3 seasons "progress". Look at Tulane basketball the 25 years prior to Rick Dickson getting here and get back to me that this Conroy is a "success". (don't compare to Dickson stiffs like Finney and Dickerson; compare to Moir, Fowler and Clark). The total win totals are meaningless because the ooc competition is pathetic. Yet, they are doing what I told you they would do: PROPPING UP A COACH and giving the athletic department yet another excuse to put a coach above the program. And that is a completely illegitimate reason. Demand real results and stop rewarding mediocrity or worse (see Tulane volleyball - Dickson rewarded the coach for turning a top 20 team to one of the worst in the country).
GW, you don't have to book "name" teams to have a solid ooc schedule. Just stop playing the worst of the worst. We played George Mason, VCU and Old Dominion under Dickserson in December - Conroy wants Pan American, SWAC and MEAC teams. Play South Alabama, La Tech - anyone in the top 150; heck in the top 200 is a major improvement This is EASY to fix.
We can only be judged on conference play. The first 2 years were horrible. IF we win 8 this year, we're about where we should have been in year 1 of 2. And for sure, NO EXTENSION short of a NCAA At Large Berth. You only give extensions when earned.
Bad scheduling kills attendance, weakens our chances at an at large berth, hurts the RPI and doesn't bring respect.
So I ask again, what is the benefit of weak scheduling?????

[TXWave88]

So that site is too censored and controls the minds of anyone that goes there. This site has shown to be only bashing of the other site and of Cow/Dick. These sites both seem like some of those network news stations.

The ooc schedule is weak, very weak. Our conference schedule is weak. It has been for several years. We have finished in the bottom of CUSA for several years. Basically, it has been the same nonsense for the past few years. If this team turns out a .500 conference record, how is that not improvement when compared to 2-14 in conference in years past? If everyone sucked this year in conference which caused our record to improve, it does not matter. If you go from 10-12th place to 4-6th place, how is that not improvement? I am not saying that is where I want Tulane to be or should be, but that is improvement. You can list several points and reasons of why this team isn't better than years past or how we should have been at .500 2, 3, or 100 years ago, but if this team finished .500 in conference, that is better than the 2-3 wins. This is not a post to support my agenda of keeping EC or supporting Cow/Dick or an agenda to fire everyone at Tulane.

[AugWave]

Don't do it TXWave88... welp, too late. Here comes the

[TXWave88]

Don't do it TXWave88... welp, too late. Here comes the

There really is not much argument of saying 8 wins in conference is better than 2 wins in conference. That is the quick summary of what I posted. It is progress and improvement. Some people will say it is, some will say its not. We know who will say that it little to no progress for a 3rd yr coach and others that will be happy that we have won 4 games so far. Those are opinions and let those be discussed or argued. But in the end, 8 wins is better than 2 wins. Going from 2 wins to 8 wins is improvement. My only opinion I will say here is that I will be shocked if we make it .500 because I have been part of the "same ole Tulane", but I hope we win out as well.

[Green Wave]

Don't do it TXWave88... welp, too late. Here comes the

There really is not much argument of saying 8 wins in conference is better than 2 wins in conference. That is the quick summary of what I posted. It is progress and improvement. Some people will say it is, some will say its not. We know who will say that it little to no progress for a 3rd yr coach and others that will be happy that we have won 4 games so far. Those are opinions and let those be discussed or argued. But in the end, 8 wins is better than 2 wins. Going from 2 wins to 8 wins is improvement. My only opinion I will say here is that I will be shocked if we make it .500 because I have been part of the "same ole Tulane", but I hope we win out as well.

Oh common Aug where are the torches?

[Bigschtick]

Greenwave, Augwave and Eaglewave need to get a room! The admin will pay since Greenwave is
part of that krewe though Cowen will limit the budget to fit a Motel 6!

[JDTulane]

I thought we couldn't afford hotels for home games

[Green Wave]

Greenwave, Augwave and Eaglewave need to get a room! The admin will pay since Greenwave is
part of that krewe though Cowen will limit the budget to fit a Motel 6!

Dont worry schtick u can come too and

We will leave the light on for ya!

[jonathanjoseph]

So that site is too censored and controls the minds of anyone that goes there. This site has shown to be only bashing of the other site and of Cow/Dick. These sites both seem like some of those network news stations.

The ooc schedule is weak, very weak. Our conference schedule is weak. It has been for several years. We have finished in the bottom of CUSA for several years. Basically, it has been the same nonsense for the past few years. If this team turns out a .500 conference record, how is that not improvement when compared to 2-14 in conference in years past? If everyone sucked this year in conference which caused our record to improve, it does not matter. If you go from 10-12th place to 4-6th place, how is that not improvement? I am not saying that is where I want Tulane to be or should be, but that is improvement. You can list several points and reasons of why this team isn't better than years past or how we should have been at .500 2, 3, or 100 years ago, but if this team finished .500 in conference, that is better than the 2-3 wins. This is not a post to support my agenda of keeping EC or supporting Cow/Dick or an agenda to fire everyone at Tulane.

It is not a moral equivalent to say that the two forums are two sides of the same coin. One forum is heavily censored, so there is no truth when there is that level of censorship. That's not a news network, that's North Korea government "news". Just like those sycophants have been espousing what a great job Cowen and Dickson have been doing and how "next year" is going to be the year Tulane breaks through for the past 10 years running, North Korea's "dear leader" has a few holes in one every round of golf.

The "bashing" of Cowen and Dickson on this forum happens because that reflects the reality of Tulane's current situation. It's well deserved and I'd argue that there isn't nearly enough "bashing" of those two on this forum or more broadly.

[mbawavefan12]

1) Um yes this year's conference record is improved.
2) I for one have accepted the fact that EC is coming back for another year, however, I agree with JD that next year it is basically tourney bubble or your gone. Not trying to sound miserable, but I just don't think EC is the guy to take this program to a point where we are consistently in the mix for a bid. Davis fell on his lap (without him we would be awful), the road W/L record and recruiting are problems. I hope I am wrong and would love to admit so next year. As I said, next year will be critical to building momentum to join the nBE and answer the critics, to me EC is not the answer, simple as that (and I have watched, listened to or attended virtually every game this year). It's time to have expectations and judge a program by several metrics, otherwise let's just call it quits and join Emory in D3.
3) So tired of folks sighting the poor results from the past as justification that we should be happy with going 7-9 or even 8-8 in conference, same with football. We get it, TU athletics have not been consistent hence the fact that we are below average now and can't sell tickets. Geez, it's like saying your new husband is broke and cheating on you but it's better then your old husband who was abusive and an alcoholic.

[TXWave88]

1) Um yes this year's conference record is improved.
2) I for one have accepted the fact that EC is coming back for another year, however, I agree with JD that next year it is basically tourney bubble or your gone. Not trying to sound miserable, but I just don't think EC is the guy to take this program to a point where we are consistently in the mix for a bid. Davis fell on his lap (without him we would be awful), the road W/L record and recruiting are problems. I hope I am wrong and would love to admit so next year. As I said, next year will be critical to building momentum to join the nBE and answer the critics, to me EC is not the answer, simple as that (and I have watched, listened to or attended virtually every game this year). It's time to have expectations and judge a program by several metrics, otherwise let's just call it quits and join Emory in D3.
3) So tired of folks sighting the poor results from the past as justification that we should be happy with going 7-9 or even 8-8 in conference, same with football. We get it, TU athletics have not been consistent hence the fact that we are below average now and can't sell tickets. Geez, it's like saying your new husband is broke and cheating on you but it's better then your old husband who was abusive and an alcoholic.

For point 2, I agree with you. I am not yet convinced (probably will never be) that EC is the one to take us to a nationally recognized basketball program. I liked a lot of what EC was doing off the court in his first 2 years, but that is about it. I do not hear about all the student interaction anymore, but he could still be doing that and I just do not know. As for basketball though, I am not impressed. Thank you Josh Davis and Ricky Tarrant. Josh should be CUSA player of the year if he continues to play at his level. Of course he will not win that if we tank the rest of the season.

Point 3, I am not satisfied with 8-8 in a poor conference. If we ended up 8-8 now after being 2-5 in conference, I would be happier than the typical "Tulane tank" to 2-14. But I hope that everyone from the top down is aiming to be champions and not average. They may have the worst aim in the world, but I at least hope they are aiming for it. If they are aiming for mediocre, then run them all out like many on here want. I am for that. If the leaders are not willing to do what is necessary to win, then the leaders should go. That stands for Tulane and should stand for most organizations with these goals.

[jonathanjoseph]

But I hope that everyone from the top down is aiming to be champions and not average. They may have the worst aim in the world, but I at least hope they are aiming for it. If they are aiming for mediocre, then run them all out like many on here want. I am for that. If the leaders are not willing to do what is necessary to win, then the leaders should go. That stands for Tulane and should stand for most organizations with these goals.

That's the point and the source of the "bashing". Every single piece of evidence points to Cowen/Dickson aiming for mediocre as they have been for 15 years. From the size of the football stadium, to the budget, to the lack of accountability, to the definition of this basketball season as "sufficient progress", etc. Conroy isn't getting fired under any circumstances and can anyone really be certain they aren't about to offer him a contract extension?

Your alma mater aims for mediocre and still falls short. Meanwhile, those in charge ask for your money and hold no one accountable then give themselves a pay raise. It's nothing short of infuriating.

[tgw]

What you overlook too is the fact Tulane could schedule tougher opponents but those teams would want to play in their house not ours. home and home with GT works for both of us and we have a pretty good relation with them to pull that from them. Think Alabama, Duke, and Vandy will do that?

No, teams like Alabama, Duke, and Vandy won't play in an arena the size of Devlin, but they probably would play us in a bigger arena. In fact, I recall playing the likes of Kentucky and Vandy when Finney was the coach, LSU when Dickerson was the coach, and NC State, Florida State, and maybe Texas A&M(?) when Clark was coaching. All of those games were played in bigger venues (Super Dome or N.O. Arena). So we need to either play the bigger teams in N.O. Arena or build ourselves a bigger one or expand Devlin.

[Fred Dowler]

But I hope that everyone from the top down is aiming to be champions and not average. They may have the worst aim in the world, but I at least hope they are aiming for it. If they are aiming for mediocre, then run them all out like many on here want. I am for that. If the leaders are not willing to do what is necessary to win, then the leaders should go. That stands for Tulane and should stand for most organizations with these goals.

That's the point and the source of the "bashing". Every single piece of evidence points to Cowen/Dickson aiming for mediocre as they have been for 15 years. From the size of the football stadium, to the budget, to the lack of accountability, to the definition of this basketball season as "sufficient progress", etc. Conroy isn't getting fired under any circumstances and can anyone really be certain they aren't about to offer him a contract extension?

Your alma mater aims for mediocre and still falls short. Meanwhile, those in charge ask for your money and hold no one accountable then give themselves a pay raise. It's nothing short of infuriating.

Some people are proclaiming that the TU ruling regime "has now seen the light."

How, pray tell, can one conclude that?

Does a little bit of lip service about winning games every now and then mean that much?

Investments in facilities (the value and payoff of the new football stadium project and of the renovation of the bball gym are, to say the least, still serious question marks anyway)?

No, it's the approach to actual season-to-season operations that bears out what the regime's priorities really are and if there's substantial evidence of some change of heart on their part then one should be able to find it in examining how the football and bball programs are being operated and also if there's no major change in the approach to operations then there cannot be much such evidence.

[DfromCT]

Top 4 in conference, and NIT or CYA....sorry, but the recruiting just isn't cutting it, and the record speaks for itself.

[NOLABigSteve]

Screw the NIT and the "improvement" in the conference schedule. At least get to the NCAA's, that's why you play. If not, fire EC.

[Bigschtick]

But I hope that everyone from the top down is aiming to be champions and not average. They may have the worst aim in the world, but I at least hope they are aiming for it. If they are aiming for mediocre, then run them all out like many on here want. I am for that. If the leaders are not willing to do what is necessary to win, then the leaders should go. That stands for Tulane and should stand for most organizations with these goals.

That's the point and the source of the "bashing". Every single piece of evidence points to Cowen/Dickson aiming for mediocre as they have been for 15 years. From the size of the football stadium, to the budget, to the lack of accountability, to the definition of this basketball season as "sufficient progress", etc. Conroy isn't getting fired under any circumstances and can anyone really be certain they aren't about to offer him a contract extension?

Your alma mater aims for mediocre and still falls short. Meanwhile, those in charge ask for your money and hold no one accountable then give themselves a pay raise. It's nothing short of infuriating.

Some people are proclaiming that the TU ruling regime "has now seen the light."

How, pray tell, can one conclude that?

Does a little bit of lip service about winning games every now and then mean that much?

Investments in facilities (the value and payoff of the new football stadium project and of the renovation of the bball gym are, to say the least, still serious question marks anyway)?

No, it's the approach to actual season-to-season operations that bears out what the regime's priorities really are and if there's substantial evidence of some change of heart on their part then one should be able to find it in examining how the football and bball programs are being operated and also if there's no major change in the approach to operations then there cannot be much such evidence.

Well said!

[Scott Kushner]

My story in today's Advocate about Tulane's offensive adjustments. Some interesting comments about the non-conference vs conference approach by some players.

http://theadvocate.com/sports/statescho ... ting-green