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Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:29 am
by DfromCT
Ray Ona Embo has thrown his hat into the 2018 Draft Pool.

http://pr.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/si ... idates.pdf

See page 4.

Also, interesting to note that there's more declared for the draft than will be picked. A whole lot more. Many of these kids will pull back either in late May or early June. I'm not sure if a Junior is considered an "upperclassman" for draft purposes.

Years ago, when the NBA first allowed non-Seniors to enter the draft, they could go through the whole process, including draft day, and opt out and go back to school if they didn't like where they were picked, or if they were not picked so long as they didn't hire an agent. That has clearly changed, and it may have been as early as the second or third year of allowing underclassmen to declare. But I know of a few players from the old Big East that did exactly that, and a few others that couldn't return because they had discussions with or signed with an agent.

My guess is that Ray has little or zero intention of going through the process and will opt out in late May.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 4:53 pm
by Houma de Wave
Melvin has indicated now that he will hire an agent. Sayonara for good! Make us proud, dude!

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 6:30 pm
by winwave

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 6:31 pm
by tpstulane
Houma de Wave wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 4:53 pm
Melvin has indicated now that he will hire an agent. Sayonara for good! Make us proud, dude!
Good for him. Hope he lands in the 1st round.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:21 pm
by DfromCT
I, too, wish him the best and hope he lands in the first round and makes beaux-coup dollars! Good luck, Melvin.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:05 am
by nawlinspete
FWIW, ESPN in their May 23 rankings has Frazier ranked as the 25th pick in the First Round. Hope he makes it into the First with a team that will give him some playing opportunities. Too bad he did not stick and get his degree too, though.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:36 am
by DfromCT
Has Ray Ona Embo opted out of the draft yet? Anyone know the deadline to do so?

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:04 am
by winwave
The deadline is May 30th.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:30 am
by NOLABigSteve
nawlinspete wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:05 am
Too bad he did not stick and get his degree too, though.
Why? So he can risk getting injured and not make that 1st round money? Get drafted in the 1st round and the salary and signing bonus after taxes will put him easily 20+ years ahead than an average Joe with an average salary coming out of college. He's a basketball player first, student second.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:45 am
by OUG
NOLABigSteve wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 9:30 am
nawlinspete wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:05 am
Too bad he did not stick and get his degree too, though.
Why? So he can risk getting injured and not make that 1st round money? Get drafted in the 1st round and the salary and signing bonus after taxes will put him easily 20+ years ahead than an average Joe with an average salary coming out of college. He's a basketball player first, student second.
Yeah, and he can come back and get his degree any time, particularly with the money he will have. I’m very opposed to some of the schemes floating around out there to pay young basketball or football players as an alternative to college (e.g., minor leagues) because you just don’t know what your pro potential is at 17/18 unless you are a truly elite player (top 5 in the country). But it absolutely makes sense to leave college early if you are on the cusp of being an NBA draft pick. With that money, you can always come back.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:59 pm
by DfromCT
There's at least 60 players that are somewhere "projected first round draft picks." We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully he not only gets drafted in the first round, but invests his money wisely, setting himself up for life. A significant number of former athletes are broke a couple of years after their careers end, despite making huge amounts of money. Let's hope Melvin makes good financial decisions.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:32 pm
by tpstulane

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:34 pm
by ajcalhoun
tpstulane wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:32 pm
SI mock has him going #33
http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/ ... ere_w.html
All four of the polls cited in that article contradict the thread title but I'm crossing my fingers that they're wrong.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:31 pm
by tpstulane
ajcalhoun wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 7:34 pm
tpstulane wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:32 pm
SI mock has him going #33
http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/ ... ere_w.html
All four of the polls cited in that article contradict the thread title but I'm crossing my fingers that they're wrong.
ESPN had him 1st round the entire time. I hadn’t seen their latest however.
https://apnews.com/d211304d748f49209709 ... -NBA-Draft

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:05 pm
by GreenLantern

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:53 pm
by tpstulane
GreenLantern wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:05 pm
Both Ch 4 & 6 had highlights. He was spectacular! Really helped himself today.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:34 am
by DfromCT
Very happy he's having a great Combine and hope this leads to him getting chosen in the first round. The highlights, against pretty damned good competition, were awesome. I'm also glad to see he cut his hair. The dreadlocks pushed into Mickey Mouse ears whenever he played in Orlando were silly.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:09 am
by NOLABigSteve
Agreed, saw some of the highlights of the combine game. Holy hell he looked like the real deal.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:54 am
by DfromCT
ajcalhoun wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 7:34 pm
tpstulane wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:32 pm
SI mock has him going #33
http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/ ... ere_w.html
All four of the polls cited in that article contradict the thread title but I'm crossing my fingers that they're wrong.
In that article, NBAdraft.net has him going at #59. If he lasts that long, I'd be absolutely shocked. Especially after his strong showing at the NBA Combine.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:57 am
by NOLABigSteve
He's a definite 1st rounder after the combine.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:27 am
by mbawavefan12
NOLABigSteve wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:57 am
He's a definite 1st rounder after the combine.
He's a perfect fit for teams drafting late in the 1st who just want a guy to play 15-20 minutes, be a versatile defender and hit the occasional 3.
Love to see him in Celtics uniform, Stevens would get the best out of his defensive abilities.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:47 am
by Show Me
I also saw those highlights. I thought I was watching LeBron playing in an NBA All Star game. He defended, he hit 3’s, had a windmill highlight dunk and an Anthony Davis like alley-opp slam way above the rim.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 5:21 pm
by DfromCT
mbawavefan12 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 10:27 am
NOLABigSteve wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:57 am
He's a definite 1st rounder after the combine.
He's a perfect fit for teams drafting late in the 1st who just want a guy to play 15-20 minutes, be a versatile defender and hit the occasional 3.
Love to see him in Celtics uniform, Stevens would get the best out of his defensive abilities.
I totally agree, the Celtics would be a perfect landing spot for Melvin. Stevens is a hell of a coach, and he'd thrive.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:31 am
by tpstulane
DfromCT wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:36 am
Has Ray Ona Embo opted out of the draft yet? Anyone know the deadline to do so?
No. Probably next year in Europe if the NBA doesn’t work out.

Re: Melvin Frazier now projected 1st round pick

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:29 pm
by Show Me
tpstulane wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 10:31 am
DfromCT wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:36 am
Has Ray Ona Embo opted out of the draft yet? Anyone know the deadline to do so?
No. Pobably next year in Europe if the NBA doesn’t work out.
Wow. He’s never going to be drafted even next year. He needs to go pro now if that’s his dream.