Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

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Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby Show Me » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:58 am

USF owns the Lady Wave having won the last 8 in a row. The Wave has never beaten them in the AAC.
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Postby Bigschtick » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:40 pm

Pretty ugly!


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Postby Show Me » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:13 pm

Bigschtick wrote:Pretty ugly!

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Postby anEngineer » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:59 pm

The USF women's basketball program is built as a European basketball farm system. Of their 12 players, 8 are from Europe, 4 are Americans. That's the way Coach Fernandez builds his team and they are very good. Tulane could certainly do that if they chose to. Tulane signed a girl for 2017 from the Spanish Youth National team who was a teammate of a current USF freshman. The Tulane recruit did poorly on her test for English-second-language students and could not be admitted.

Is that Coach Stockton's fault? Maybe that's why they are reluctant to do that more often. Maybe USF has more opportunity for non-English speaking students. In AAC women's basketball, UConn is 1, USF is 2 and the competition is after that. This year will be a struggle for the Wave women due to youth at guard.



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Postby RobertM320 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:12 pm

That just seems odd, given that there are so many international students at Tulane. You'd think testing wouldn't be an issue. If you're smart, you're smart, regardless of what language you speak. A shame to miss out on a good player for that reason, unless maybe she was more of a USF type student than a Tulane type student.


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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby DrBox » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:20 am

anEngineer wrote:
Is that Coach Stockton's fault? Maybe that's why they are reluctant to do that more often. Maybe USF has more opportunity for non-English speaking students. In AAC women's basketball, UConn is 1, USF is 2 and the competition is after that. This year will be a struggle for the Wave women due to youth at guard.

For an individual not passing a test, no. But for not having a broader recruiting program - yes. Recruiting is tough business. If one fails, does that mean you don't try again?
We've largely been soft recruiters for a decade now, and, as a result, have a NIT program (which will be lucky to make the NIT this year).



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Postby JerseyWave » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:14 pm

At what point does Tulane turn up the heat on Coach Stockton's seat and say thanks for 25 years of good coaching, but mediocrity is no longer the goal for this program. The expectation should be making the NCAA tournament.



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Postby mbawavefan12 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:17 pm

JerseyWave wrote:At what point does Tulane turn up the heat on Coach Stockton's seat and say thanks for 25 years of good coaching, but mediocrity is no longer the goal for this program. The expectation should be making the NCAA tournament.


Lisa has been a very good coach at Tulane but I have always believed we are just wasting money paying a women's Bball coach a P5 salary. But I am biased as women's Bball stinks.



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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

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JerseyWave wrote:At what point does Tulane turn up the heat on Coach Stockton's seat and say thanks for 25 years of good coaching, but mediocrity is no longer the goal for this program. The expectation should be making the NCAA tournament.

No time soon.
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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby winwave » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:13 pm

mbawavefan12 wrote:
JerseyWave wrote:At what point does Tulane turn up the heat on Coach Stockton's seat and say thanks for 25 years of good coaching, but mediocrity is no longer the goal for this program. The expectation should be making the NCAA tournament.


Lisa has been a very good coach at Tulane but I have always believed we are just wasting money paying a women's Bball coach a P5 salary. But I am biased as women's Bball stinks.


She has benefited like others from the low bar syndrome at Tulane. We don't have the same barriers in women's athletics. Yes they have pro league's now but they don't grow up thinking that will be there life. They are more inclined to get a quality education. I asked her at a committee meeting before last season about her expectations for making the NCAA tournament. You could see the surprise on her face by even being asked that. She hesitated before answering and you could tell she didn't expect to at all. She's retired on the job. It's time to move on.


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Postby tpstulane » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:36 pm

Lisa’s early NCAA success (every year from 1995-2003) set the bar high. I believe she’ll continue to coach as long as she wants to. Up until recently she’s owned LSU. But there is frustration in not being able to beat USF. Not beating UCONN is one thing but we need to beat USF every now and then. We also need to get back to the NCAA tournament on a more consistent basis as well. The NIT is not very exciting at this point. Have faith in Lisa and Allen they will get us back to where we need to be.
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1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2010, 2015


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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby DrBox » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:44 am

winwave wrote:
mbawavefan12 wrote:
JerseyWave wrote:At what point does Tulane turn up the heat on Coach Stockton's seat and say thanks for 25 years of good coaching, but mediocrity is no longer the goal for this program. The expectation should be making the NCAA tournament.


Lisa has been a very good coach at Tulane but I have always believed we are just wasting money paying a women's Bball coach a P5 salary. But I am biased as women's Bball stinks.


She has benefited like others from the low bar syndrome at Tulane. We don't have the same barriers in women's athletics. Yes they have pro league's now but they don't grow up thinking that will be there life. They are more inclined to get a quality education.

When you boil it down, the program is about what our baseball program was under late-era Jones (just with the NIT to attempt to mask the reality). He felt the heat, and he had two top 6 teams.
When we joined a league with U Conn, she should have been stoked...we are in the same league with THE team, get 2 games a year against them, and this should have been the chance to really elevate the program. Nothing.
Frey works his tail off, but they need some young recruiters (and have for years). They are well-coached and get the most out of the talent.



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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby DrBox » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:11 pm

tpstulane wrote:Here’s a list of Lisa’s NCAA appearances:
1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2010, 2015

2 in the last 14 years.
That's unacceptable.
And the team is a basketcase right now...and that's with the best players she's had here in a decade.
She should not have some "coach as long as she wants to" dictum.



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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby winwave » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:12 am

DrBox wrote:
tpstulane wrote:Here’s a list of Lisa’s NCAA appearances:
1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2010, 2015

2 in the last 14 years.
That's unacceptable.
And the team is a basketcase right now...and that's with the best players she's had here in a decade.
She should not have some "coach as long as she wants to" dictum.


You are correct. LBS needs to be gone.She never owned LSU. She finally won some when they were down.


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Re: Tulane Women Basketball vs USF

Postby tpstulane » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 am

winwave wrote:
DrBox wrote:
tpstulane wrote:Here’s a list of Lisa’s NCAA appearances:
1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2010, 2015

2 in the last 14 years.
That's unacceptable.
And the team is a basketcase right now...and that's with the best players she's had here in a decade.
She should not have some "coach as long as she wants to" dictum.


You are correct. LBS needs to be gone.She never owned LSU. She finally won some when they were down.

LSU’s Sue Gunter quit playing us once we got good. Pokey who took her place won most of the time against us because she slept around to get good players was fired because of it (they elevated Van Chancellor to take her place). After that they hired their current coach Nikki C for $1 million a year. Lisa has beaten Nikki more than she has beaten her. At one point she had won 4 out of 5. Yes we are having a bad year no denying that but that’s no reason to diminish the great accomplishments that Lisa has achieved over her career here. Before Lisa we never made the NCAA’s. My point being she set a high bar for herself.


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