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Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:03 pm
by tpstulane
winwave wrote:DfromCT wrote:If Tulane actually declined a bowl bid, that's the first I've heard of it. It would have been the first time to a Bowl since Mack Davis, If I'm not mistaken. But they were 7-4. Woody, Tim, can you guys confirm? I was not nearly as close to the team as I was working long hours on Wall St. at the time.
Win, I'm not doubting you, just surprised I'd never heard that.
BTW: SMU playing like crap in wake of coaching change. Turned it over 2 or 3 times already, down 14-0 early.
We turned down the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise and as I said the main reason was b/c Bowden wanted to spend the time on recruiting. Some love to talk about those 15 extra practices you get but those early minor Bowls like that don't provide the time for that. Money wise you lose money b/c you pay for the travel cost of all involved. I get that you might have missed it then but it's been discussed on all these sites and it was definitely brought up on this site in at least the last 6 months. That's why I said that the MAIN REASON was Bowden wanting to use the time to recruit. Many love to have their theories but I follow this closely without lapse and that was the biggie. Cincy took our place and played them in basketball. No reason we wouldn't have done the same as we played many low level OOC's in basketball back then .
Yep Tulane declined. But it also had to do with money. Tulane administration needed to pony up a bunch of guaranteed ticket sales and would have lost about $300,000 or so going to it. May have even been more. Going off of memory.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:39 pm
by winwave
tpstulane wrote:winwave wrote:DfromCT wrote:If Tulane actually declined a bowl bid, that's the first I've heard of it. It would have been the first time to a Bowl since Mack Davis, If I'm not mistaken. But they were 7-4. Woody, Tim, can you guys confirm? I was not nearly as close to the team as I was working long hours on Wall St. at the time.
Win, I'm not doubting you, just surprised I'd never heard that.
BTW: SMU playing like crap in wake of coaching change. Turned it over 2 or 3 times already, down 14-0 early.
We turned down the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise and as I said the main reason was b/c Bowden wanted to spend the time on recruiting. Some love to talk about those 15 extra practices you get but those early minor Bowls like that don't provide the time for that. Money wise you lose money b/c you pay for the travel cost of all involved. I get that you might have missed it then but it's been discussed on all these sites and it was definitely brought up on this site in at least the last 6 months. That's why I said that the MAIN REASON was Bowden wanting to use the time to recruit. Many love to have their theories but I follow this closely without lapse and that was the biggie. Cincy took our place and played them in basketball. No reason we wouldn't have done the same as we played many low level OOC's in basketball back then .
Yep Tulane declined. But it also had to do with money. Tulane administration needed to pony up a bunch of guaranteed ticket sales and would have lost about $300,000 or so going to it. May have even been more. Going off of memory.
That was also a reason and I noted that as I said teams lose money on these type of games. But remember Sandy was the AD and she supported Bowden. If he said he wanted to go to the Bowl b/c it would be good for the program she would have supported that.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:59 pm
by tpstulane
winwave wrote:tpstulane wrote:winwave wrote:DfromCT wrote:If Tulane actually declined a bowl bid, that's the first I've heard of it. It would have been the first time to a Bowl since Mack Davis, If I'm not mistaken. But they were 7-4. Woody, Tim, can you guys confirm? I was not nearly as close to the team as I was working long hours on Wall St. at the time.
Win, I'm not doubting you, just surprised I'd never heard that.
BTW: SMU playing like crap in wake of coaching change. Turned it over 2 or 3 times already, down 14-0 early.
We turned down the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise and as I said the main reason was b/c Bowden wanted to spend the time on recruiting. Some love to talk about those 15 extra practices you get but those early minor Bowls like that don't provide the time for that. Money wise you lose money b/c you pay for the travel cost of all involved. I get that you might have missed it then but it's been discussed on all these sites and it was definitely brought up on this site in at least the last 6 months. That's why I said that the MAIN REASON was Bowden wanting to use the time to recruit. Many love to have their theories but I follow this closely without lapse and that was the biggie. Cincy took our place and played them in basketball. No reason we wouldn't have done the same as we played many low level OOC's in basketball back then .
Yep Tulane declined. But it also had to do with money. Tulane administration needed to pony up a bunch of guaranteed ticket sales and would have lost about $300,000 or so going to it. May have even been more. Going off of memory.
That was also a reason and I noted that as I said teams lose money on these type of games. But remember Sandy was the AD and she supported Bowden. If he said he wanted to go to the Bowl b/c it would be good for the program she would have supported that.
Yes. For sure.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:27 am
by pansdad
I always wondered why we did not go bowling in 1997. I don't think we (or anyone) should refuse an invite to a bowl game, even if it costs money. Things were definitely different then. If only, if only, if only we had hired RR?????
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:04 am
by DfromCT
Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the West side of stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:11 am
by netshorty
DfromCT wrote:Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the West side of stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
Awesome piece of history D. Thanks for posting.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:32 am
by golfnut69
netshorty wrote:DfromCT wrote:Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the West side of stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
Awesome piece of history D. Thanks for posting.
just a note of Fogelman....as I understand, when it was constructed it was the first such building that was "heated" in the south...and one other FYI, when Tulane turned down the Rose Bowl invite, little sister Alabama was then invited, the invite was so important, it is now noted in their "Fight Song'
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... N__wQJbGAh
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:50 pm
by IM42lane
DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:55 pm
by DfromCT
IM42lane wrote:DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
It would have to be mostly overhanging the low level, and not extend too much further away from the field. Something steep, that would make that side of the stadium (which I believe seats as many or close to as many as the other side) less of an eyesore.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:35 pm
by Wavetime
DfromCT wrote:IM42lane wrote:DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
It would have to be mostly overhanging the low level, and not extend too much further away from the field. Something steep, that would make that side of the stadium (which I believe seats as many or close to as many as the other side) less of an eyesore.
I'd be happy with just moving up the press box and turning that area back into the seats that it was designed for. That press box makes that really nice stadium look small time....just my opinion
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:18 am
by Wavetrader
Wavetime wrote:DfromCT wrote:IM42lane wrote:DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
It would have to be mostly overhanging the low level, and not extend too much further away from the field. Something steep, that would make that side of the stadium (which I believe seats as many or close to as many as the other side) less of an eyesore.
I'd be happy with just moving up the press box and turning that area back into the seats that it was designed for. That press box makes that really nice stadium look small time....just my opinion
Concur on the press box. It screams small time. Put it on top of the East Side.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:52 am
by golfnut69
A simple solution...Flood Audubon Place
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:22 am
by DfromCT
Wavetrader wrote:Wavetime wrote:DfromCT wrote:IM42lane wrote:DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
It would have to be mostly overhanging the low level, and not extend too much further away from the field. Something steep, that would make that side of the stadium (which I believe seats as many or close to as many as the other side) less of an eyesore.
I'd be happy with just moving up the press box and turning that area back into the seats that it was designed for. That press box makes that really nice stadium look small time....just my opinion
Concur on the press box. It screams small time. Put it on top of the East Side.
Good luck with that. It would require an entire re-build of the middle sections as the press box was part of the steel framing early on in the building process. I don't disagree, I just think it's part of the basic structure of the West side of the stadium.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:45 am
by golfnut69
DfromCT wrote:Wavetrader wrote:Wavetime wrote:DfromCT wrote:IM42lane wrote:DfromCT wrote: Tulane declined a Rose Bowl invite in 1925 in order to keep their student athletes in class. That may have been Tulane's best team ever, as the only blemish was a tie to Missou, and shut outs in 6 of 10 games. They went undefeated again in 1929 and 1931, with a loss to Northwestern in 1930 preventing them from having a 3 year stretch of undefeated seasons. They did go to the Rose Bowl in 1932, and the money earned from that Rose Bowl financed Fogelman Arena's construction.
Sometime in the next 4 years maybe we'll go to a New Year's bowl game, and the paycheck can finance an upper deck on the WEST side of the stadium, NIMBYs be damned!
AGREE, but does Yulman have enough spare room on the WEST side to even consider such an expansion? NIMBY back yards are very close to that side of the stadium .
It would have to be mostly overhanging the low level, and not extend too much further away from the field. Something steep, that would make that side of the stadium (which I believe seats as many or close to as many as the other side) less of an eyesore.
I'd be happy with just moving up the press box and turning that area back into the seats that it was designed for. That press box makes that really nice stadium look small time....just my opinion
Concur on the press box. It screams small time. Put it on top of the East Side.
Good luck with that. It would require an entire re-build of the middle sections as the press box was part of the steel framing early on in the building process. I don't disagree, I just think it's part of the basic structure of the West side of the stadium.
have I misunderstood...I thought that POS on the west side was for the coaching staffs...the "Press" is located on the east side
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:18 am
by DfromCT
No, Woody, it's the James W. Wilson Jr. Press Center.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:51 pm
by winwave
The TV cameras were moved to the east side but the press is till on the west side.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:35 pm
by golfnut69
DfromCT wrote:No, Woody, it's the James W. Wilson Jr. Press Center.
let's look on the bright side...they are close to the action and U don't have to be afraid of heights, just in case you have vertigo...plus, U get to be "one" with the fans
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:52 pm
by pansdad
The few times I have attended YouKnowWho stadium I felt like I was about to tumble over, all the way to the bottom. With all of the additions they have done I can't imagine it being any better. No wonder that after a few imbibements things often got rough in the old days when there WAS a rivalry.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:25 pm
by DfromCT
Sometimes the announcers aren't even in New Orleans.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:00 pm
by Hippiecoog
He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:57 pm
by GreenLantern
Hippiecoog wrote:He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Maybe it wasn't Applewhite. Maybe Tulane was just the better team. In any case, here's a Christmas card to you.
https://twitter.com/GreenWaveFB/status/ ... 3199042561
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:32 pm
by Hippiecoog
GreenLantern wrote:Hippiecoog wrote:He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Maybe it wasn't Applewhite. Maybe Tulane was just the better team. In any case, here's a Christmas card to you.
https://twitter.com/GreenWaveFB/status/ ... 3199042561
Good coaches don't lose to Bottom 10 programs like Tulane. Anybody watching the game knows that Tulane was overmatched even with their gimmicky offense.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:46 pm
by GreenLantern
Hippiecoog wrote:GreenLantern wrote:Hippiecoog wrote:He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Maybe it wasn't Applewhite. Maybe Tulane was just the better team. In any case, here's a Christmas card to you.
https://twitter.com/GreenWaveFB/status/ ... 3199042561
Good coaches don't lose to Bottom 10 programs like Tulane. Anybody watching the game knows that Tulane was overmatched even with their gimmicky offense.
See you next year in Houston. Merry Christmas.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:31 pm
by mbawavefan12
Hippiecoog wrote:GreenLantern wrote:Hippiecoog wrote:He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Maybe it wasn't Applewhite. Maybe Tulane was just the better team. In any case, here's a Christmas card to you.
https://twitter.com/GreenWaveFB/status/ ... 3199042561
Good coaches don't lose to Bottom 10 programs like Tulane. Anybody watching the game knows that Tulane was overmatched even with their gimmicky offense.
Tulsa is bottom 10, Tulane isn’t even close and should have been bowling.
Re: Fritz on verge of extension
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:47 pm
by golfnut69
Hippiecoog wrote:He should donate a percentage of that extension money to Applewhite. Can't wait til we buy out his contract at the end of next season.
Kim Helton may be available....