AAC Attempts at Power Status
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:15 pm
You gotta love Aresco, though.
"They are giving me the ammunition that we need," Aresco said. "And now it's coming to the point where they'll be a tipping point. We're going to have to do some things and become aggressive because you can't just sit back. It's not going to just happen by alchemy or magic, believe me."
Thanks for the link. Gotta love the man. The next TV contract in 2020 will tell us all we need to know. AAC needs to win the next two NY6 Bowls.tpstulane wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:21 pm Commissioner Aresco pushing P6
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Totally agree. Viewership drives money. Enough people have to care about the games and watch. While it's a big deal for AAC followers, how many people nationally really care about games between UCF-USF, UCF-Houston, Houston-Memphis? Each P5 has 3-4 teams that are always in demand and always drive ratings. The closest thing the AAC has to that is Navy and it's really because it's a Service Academy, not because it's a football power. The AAC needs 2-3 programs that are always in the top 15 because games between top 15's always matter. P5 top 15's are never going to schedule top 15 AAC teams so you have to generate the interest internally.HoustonWave wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:21 am Directly, winning has little to do with getting into the "P Club". The primary requirement for an individual school getting into a P conference is it's ability to generate revenue--from filling at least 40,000 seats each weekend, to attracting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of TV viewers. It's the same for the AAC. The AAC can't win it's way into P status, it has to attract fans like P conferences do. If the AAC can do that, its stadiums will be filled like most P schools (excluding a few P parasite schools), and it will get P-like TV contracts--at that point it would the P6 conference. I admire what Aresco is trying to do, but nobody is going to suddenly get up and make an official proclamation that the AAC is now a P conference, here's a big check--it will happen on its own, if the stadiums are consistently filled, and the TV audiences are consistently large. Indirectly, winning does matter, as we all know you can't get the fans without the wins.
You argue the same points I do. Winning brings fans. Winning gets people to care and watch. Not winning, no interest, no fans, no support, no invite.HoustonWave wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:21 am Directly, winning has little to do with getting into the "P Club". The primary requirement for an individual school getting into a P conference is it's ability to generate revenue--from filling at least 40,000 seats each weekend, to attracting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of TV viewers. It's the same for the AAC. The AAC can't win it's way into P status, it has to attract fans like P conferences do. If the AAC can do that, its stadiums will be filled like most P schools (excluding a few P parasite schools), and it will get P-like TV contracts--at that point it would the P6 conference. I admire what Aresco is trying to do, but nobody is going to suddenly get up and make an official proclamation that the AAC is now a P conference, here's a big check--it will happen on its own, if the stadiums are consistently filled, and the TV audiences are consistently large. Indirectly, winning does matter, as we all know you can't get the fans without the wins.
Ummm, the ONLY thing that has any possibility of generating revenue, getting butts in seats, and attracting more TV viewers is winning...HoustonWave wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:21 am Directly, winning has little to do with getting into the "P Club". The primary requirement for an individual school getting into a P conference is it's ability to generate revenue--from filling at least 40,000 seats each weekend, to attracting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of TV viewers. It's the same for the AAC. The AAC can't win it's way into P status, it has to attract fans like P conferences do. If the AAC can do that, its stadiums will be filled like most P schools (excluding a few P parasite schools), and it will get P-like TV contracts--at that point it would the P6 conference. I admire what Aresco is trying to do, but nobody is going to suddenly get up and make an official proclamation that the AAC is now a P conference, here's a big check--it will happen on its own, if the stadiums are consistently filled, and the TV audiences are consistently large. Indirectly, winning does matter, as we all know you can't get the fans without the wins.
That's true, but there are ceilings in the G5. If anyone wants to claim otherwise, one can simply point them to Boise State - a program that has been a consistent winner but could not hit 32k in average attendance (incl. MWC championship game) in the 11th season since 2001 that it has finished in the final AP top 25. In terms of winning, it does not appear to much else that Boise State could do in order to get more fans in the stadium.NOLABigSteve wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:22 pmUmmm, the ONLY thing that has any possibility of generating revenue, getting butts in seats, and attracting more TV viewers is winning...HoustonWave wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:21 am Directly, winning has little to do with getting into the "P Club". The primary requirement for an individual school getting into a P conference is it's ability to generate revenue--from filling at least 40,000 seats each weekend, to attracting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of TV viewers. It's the same for the AAC. The AAC can't win it's way into P status, it has to attract fans like P conferences do. If the AAC can do that, its stadiums will be filled like most P schools (excluding a few P parasite schools), and it will get P-like TV contracts--at that point it would the P6 conference. I admire what Aresco is trying to do, but nobody is going to suddenly get up and make an official proclamation that the AAC is now a P conference, here's a big check--it will happen on its own, if the stadiums are consistently filled, and the TV audiences are consistently large. Indirectly, winning does matter, as we all know you can't get the fans without the wins.
I agree with your post, but also feel that there's more competition for the entertainment dollar, and more recreational activities available than ever. Kids don't grow up glued to the tv set watching sports any more (they're glued to the computer, playing xbox, wii, etc!) The fan base is shrinking and both college and pro sports teams are reacting. LSU is wondering if they really needed that last expansion of their stadium. Pro teams (with the exception of Dallas Cowboys) are building smaller stadiums than the ones they replace. Boise faces a problem because of it's location. Despite being the fastest growing state in the Nation, Idaho only has 1.7 million residents, and Boise has less than 300,000 residents.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:48 pm That's true, but there are ceilings in the G5. If anyone wants to claim otherwise, one can simply point them to Boise State - a program that has been a consistent winner but could not hit 32k in average attendance (incl. MWC championship game) in the 11th season since 2001 that it has finished in the final AP top 25. In terms of winning, it does not appear to much else that Boise State could do in order to get more fans in the stadium.
Houston experienced something similar in 2015 when Herman let the media know how upset he was that Houston was not selling out its stadium even though it was ranked.
The only issue that could be causing this result even though teams are winning is that maybe fans of the programs are not also fans of the schedules.
Overall, FBS attendance was down for the fourth straight season to just over 34 million, or 42,108 per game compared to 43,070 in 2016.
Agree with both of you. I definitely think what zombie said about the schedules is the biggest of all those issues. Hopefully the conference teams continue to get better and some conference rivalries really develop. Then improve the OOC's for all teams.DfromCT wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:08 pmI agree with your post, but also feel that there's more competition for the entertainment dollar, and more recreational activities available than ever. Kids don't grow up glued to the tv set watching sports any more (they're glued to the computer, playing xbox, wii, etc!) The fan base is shrinking and both college and pro sports teams are reacting. LSU is wondering if they really needed that last expansion of their stadium. Pro teams (with the exception of Dallas Cowboys) are building smaller stadiums than the ones they replace. Boise faces a problem because of it's location. Despite being the fastest growing state in the Nation, Idaho only has 1.7 million residents, and Boise has less than 300,000 residents.Aberzombie1892 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:48 pm That's true, but there are ceilings in the G5. If anyone wants to claim otherwise, one can simply point them to Boise State - a program that has been a consistent winner but could not hit 32k in average attendance (incl. MWC championship game) in the 11th season since 2001 that it has finished in the final AP top 25. In terms of winning, it does not appear to much else that Boise State could do in order to get more fans in the stadium.
Houston experienced something similar in 2015 when Herman let the media know how upset he was that Houston was not selling out its stadium even though it was ranked.
The only issue that could be causing this result even though teams are winning is that maybe fans of the programs are not also fans of the schedules.
From the article mentioning LSU (despite being 7th in the nation in attendance) didn't sell out any home games last year:Overall, FBS attendance was down for the fourth straight season to just over 34 million, or 42,108 per game compared to 43,070 in 2016.