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UConn athletic department in 2018: generated $40 million in revenue, but spent $81 million in expenses:

https://www.courant.com/sports/hc-sp-uc ... story.html


Not exactly a recipe for financial success:
The school’s sports programs were once again heavily subsidized by the university, receiving more than $8.5 million in student fees and more than $30 million in additional institutional support.

In recent years, declining conference and media licensing revenue, along with rising costs, have created the current deficit. It is not sustainable

UConn’s jump from the Big East to the American Athletic Conference in 2013, amid widespread conference realignment, cost the athletic department significant money in media rights and bowl payouts

A USA Today analysis of data from 2016-17 found that the school’s athletic department received the highest university subsidy (about $42 million) of any Division I public institution

The biggest individual team culprit of the UConn athletic department’s 2018 deficit was the school’s football program, which lost $8.7 million. Additionally, men’s basketball lost about $5 million, women’s basketball lost about $3.1 million and the rest of the school’s sports lost about $22.3 million among them.

Ticket sale revenue dropped 7.5 percent from 2017, to $9.1 million.

Football saw a 28 percent decrease in ticket sale revenue last year, from $3.3 million in 2017 to $2.4 million in 2018, while men’s basketball during the 2017-18 season had its lowest attendance numbers in 30 years


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Ticket sale revenue dropped 7.5 percent from 2017, to $9.1 million.

Football saw a 28 percent decrease in ticket sale revenue last year, from $3.3 million in 2017 to $2.4 million in 2018, while men’s basketball during the 2017-18 season had its lowest attendance numbers in 30 years
Must have added seat licenses. :roll:
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Meh. I am originally from the big east area, and I hate their smug elitism. So based on this- football lost 8m. Cool, so if the AAC gets 10m or even 9m a season per team as reported, can we shut the bitchy catholic school, basketball only (and aspiring uconn) fans up as their shitty team breaks even ?

Imagine if they actually had a decent program. Imagine a competent program with some semblance of winning in football in the northeast. People would be in the stands, the next deal would go up and merchande & ticket sales would increase. Boston college has been hot garbage outside of a couple odd years every decade and they proved with 1 amazing season they can build a program. The northeast will never be the south- but if you win, they will come.

Edit: PS ok basketball- you have amazing recruits since you’ve been in the AAC and yet you suck. Your narrative doesn’t hold up that we made you worse. Why don’t you win against this supposedly inferior conference ?
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How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
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JerseyWave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
Yep. I was wondering that as well. Sounds like funny business there. If UCONN women’s basketball loses money there’s no hope for any WBB program out there.
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:07 pm
JerseyWave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
Yep. I was wondering that as well. Sounds like funny business there. If UCONN women’s basketball loses money there’s no hope for any WBB program out there.
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:07 pm
JerseyWave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
Yep. I was wondering that as well. Sounds like funny business there. If UCONN women’s basketball loses money there’s no hope for any WBB program out there.
That's hard to believe! The Women's basketball program has a TV contract, sells out the ConnDome (Gampel Pavilion) regularly, and plays a number of games in a sold out Hartford Civic Center.

There must be severe mis-management, leftover from the days of them getting Big East money.
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With regard to the money problems, I remember that they had put a huge amount of money into their stadium and football resources when they were Big East football. They correctly anticipated big exposure and TV money in a conference with BC, Syracuse, Va Tech, Pitt, Miami, W Va. When that fell apart, the other programs were sucked up by ACC and B1G and UConn was left in the cold (literally cold).

I can remember UConn actually suing the Big East based on the fact that they overspent as an investment in the conference and then were abandoned. I don't know what happened with the suit, but that could explain how they got behind the fiscal 8 ball.
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golfnut69 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:10 am
tpstulane wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:07 pm
JerseyWave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
Yep. I was wondering that as well. Sounds like funny business there. If UCONN women’s basketball loses money there’s no hope for any WBB program out there.
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Would that person be Ron Meyer?
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tpstulane wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:07 pm
JerseyWave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm How did their women’s team lose $3 million. They dominate the sport in every way.
Yep. I was wondering that as well. Sounds like funny business there. If UCONN women’s basketball loses money there’s no hope for any WBB program out there.
I was on campus in Storrs, CT when a bus pulled up in front of Gampel Pavillion with police escort. It was the UConn Women's Basketball team arriving from another National Championship. There were maybe a hundred people who were in attendance at a reception inside Gampel. I watched the local news coverage that evening and all of the news cameras were high angle shots that completely that obscured how few "fans" were in attendance. Gampel seats over 10,000 it was an echo chamber.
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Bicoastalwave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:59 pm Meh. I am originally from the big east area, and I hate their smug elitism. So based on this- football lost 8m. Cool, so if the AAC gets 10m or even 9m a season per team as reported, can we shut the bitchy catholic school, basketball only (and aspiring uconn) fans up as their shitty team breaks even ?

Imagine if they actually had a decent program. Imagine a competent program with some semblance of winning in football in the northeast. People would be in the stands, the next deal would go up and merchande & ticket sales would increase. Boston college has been hot garbage outside of a couple odd years every decade and they proved with 1 amazing season they can build a program. The northeast will never be the south- but if you win, they will come.

Edit: PS ok basketball- you have amazing recruits since you’ve been in the AAC and yet you suck. Your narrative doesn’t hold up that we made you worse. Why don’t you win against this supposedly inferior conference ?
I attend high school football games in Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The Mid-Atlantic is nothing but a shell of what it once was for producing football talent. Athletically gifted kids are choosing to play other sports in massive numbers. New England never did produce anything but hockey players. UConn needs to do some soul searching...
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wave97 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:08 pm
Bicoastalwave wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:59 pm Meh. I am originally from the big east area, and I hate their smug elitism. So based on this- football lost 8m. Cool, so if the AAC gets 10m or even 9m a season per team as reported, can we shut the bitchy catholic school, basketball only (and aspiring uconn) fans up as their shitty team breaks even ?

Imagine if they actually had a decent program. Imagine a competent program with some semblance of winning in football in the northeast. People would be in the stands, the next deal would go up and merchande & ticket sales would increase. Boston college has been hot garbage outside of a couple odd years every decade and they proved with 1 amazing season they can build a program. The northeast will never be the south- but if you win, they will come.

Edit: PS ok basketball- you have amazing recruits since you’ve been in the AAC and yet you suck. Your narrative doesn’t hold up that we made you worse. Why don’t you win against this supposedly inferior conference ?
I attend high school football games in Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The Mid-Atlantic is nothing but a shell of what it once was for producing football talent. Athletically gifted kids are choosing to play other sports in massive numbers. New England never did produce anything but hockey players. UConn needs to do some soul searching...
That's funny. On the early signing day, two local players, one from a public school and one from a private prep school signed with Michigan. Of Michigans 17 recruits (and it's the #8 recruiting class in the nation according to 24/7) 5 come from the Northeast, 3 of the 5 from CT.

A couple of years ago, I sent CJ AND the recruiting coordinator contact information from a local (legendary) coach who told me he had an O-Lineman that would be a great fit for Tulane. They never even called. He's been a starter at TCU for a couple of years. The same HS (New Canaan) also sent their QB to TCU, he was a true Freshman this past season, and an O-lineman, mentioned above, to Michigan this year. New Canaan is one of the most affluent towns in the country, it would have been a great pipeline for talented football players that could make it in the classroom.

Maybe you're not going to the right HS games. Football is nowhere near as popular as it is in the South, or Southwest, but there's some talent in the Northeast. And a few schools regularly place players in to D1 (and yes P5) programs.
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During the 60's, 70' & 80's whole swaths of entire ACC rosters were from Pennsylvania, New Jersey & New York
I am glad a Connecticut kid worked out for TCU.
If you think Fairfield County has anything to do with Connecticut & New England you are crazy.
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wave97 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:33 pm During the 60's, 70' & 80's whole swaths of entire ACC rosters were from Pennsylvania, New Jersey & New York
I am glad a Connecticut kid worked out for TCU.
If you think Fairfield County has anything to do with Connecticut & New England you are crazy.
I've lived here (and had vacation homes in VT and Cape Cod.) since 1967. I think I know New England. There's plenty of it that's as affluent as Fairfield County.
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Why UConn should probably drop to FCS

It’s not something many fans want to hear, but FBS football is really expensive! If you’re not selling tickets, don’t have a credible way to success, and have money problems, FCS could make a lot of sense. Even for certain Power 5 programs, it’s at least worth considering.

UConn would have options as an FCS program. The NEC only has seven teams and would almost assuredly welcome UConn, who would have local opponents like Sacred Heart, Central Connecticut State, and Bryant, plus a winnable league with an FCS playoff auto-bid.

Of course, UConn isn’t really a football school. It’s a basketball school. The men’s team has struggled after winning the 2014 NCAA tournament. While certainly not the only factor, the AAC move has contributed to the program’s decline, robbing it of road games in traditional Northeastern recruiting territories. Plus, selling tickets for games against Tulane and East Carolina is a lot harder than selling tickets for games against Georgetown and Villanova.

If UConn ditched the AAC and parked basketball and other sports in the Big East, not only would it be in a superior conference for both men’s and women’s basketball, it’d be reunited with programs it used to play all the time in the Old Big East — the teams many UConn fans actually care about.

That’s an easier path to greatness, and a much easier path to ticket sales and money. And it’s not like the Big East wouldn’t be interested in having the Huskies. UConn’s other fast-growing sport, hockey, isn’t sponsored by the AAC and shouldn’t feel the effect of a move.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/c ... ll-aac-fcs
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cajunfanatico wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:39 am
Why UConn should probably drop to FCS

It’s not something many fans want to hear, but FBS football is really expensive! If you’re not selling tickets, don’t have a credible way to success, and have money problems, FCS could make a lot of sense. Even for certain Power 5 programs, it’s at least worth considering.

UConn would have options as an FCS program. The NEC only has seven teams and would almost assuredly welcome UConn, who would have local opponents like Sacred Heart, Central Connecticut State, and Bryant, plus a winnable league with an FCS playoff auto-bid.

Of course, UConn isn’t really a football school. It’s a basketball school. The men’s team has struggled after winning the 2014 NCAA tournament. While certainly not the only factor, the AAC move has contributed to the program’s decline, robbing it of road games in traditional Northeastern recruiting territories. Plus, selling tickets for games against Tulane and East Carolina is a lot harder than selling tickets for games against Georgetown and Villanova.

If UConn ditched the AAC and parked basketball and other sports in the Big East, not only would it be in a superior conference for both men’s and women’s basketball, it’d be reunited with programs it used to play all the time in the Old Big East — the teams many UConn fans actually care about.

That’s an easier path to greatness, and a much easier path to ticket sales and money. And it’s not like the Big East wouldn’t be interested in having the Huskies. UConn’s other fast-growing sport, hockey, isn’t sponsored by the AAC and shouldn’t feel the effect of a move.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/c ... ll-aac-fcs
The teams UConn fans care about are: Syracuse, BC, UWVa, and Rutgers. None of them play FCS football. And, applying your logic, Tulane should drop to FCS. We don't sell any more tickets than UConn. and we probably have similar records since UConn moved up to FBS.

At BEST UConn hockey is 3rd best NCAA team in the state. And you could argue that they're not even 3rd.

I don't know who you are quoting here, CF, but it's pretty inaccurate. The Huskies sold plenty of tickets when they were in a P6 conference and competing for conference championships. They've had a series of bad coaching hires that's getting harder and harder to overcome.
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DfromCT wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:38 pm
cajunfanatico wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:39 am
Why UConn should probably drop to FCS

It’s not something many fans want to hear, but FBS football is really expensive! If you’re not selling tickets, don’t have a credible way to success, and have money problems, FCS could make a lot of sense. Even for certain Power 5 programs, it’s at least worth considering.

UConn would have options as an FCS program. The NEC only has seven teams and would almost assuredly welcome UConn, who would have local opponents like Sacred Heart, Central Connecticut State, and Bryant, plus a winnable league with an FCS playoff auto-bid.

Of course, UConn isn’t really a football school. It’s a basketball school. The men’s team has struggled after winning the 2014 NCAA tournament. While certainly not the only factor, the AAC move has contributed to the program’s decline, robbing it of road games in traditional Northeastern recruiting territories. Plus, selling tickets for games against Tulane and East Carolina is a lot harder than selling tickets for games against Georgetown and Villanova.

If UConn ditched the AAC and parked basketball and other sports in the Big East, not only would it be in a superior conference for both men’s and women’s basketball, it’d be reunited with programs it used to play all the time in the Old Big East — the teams many UConn fans actually care about.

That’s an easier path to greatness, and a much easier path to ticket sales and money. And it’s not like the Big East wouldn’t be interested in having the Huskies. UConn’s other fast-growing sport, hockey, isn’t sponsored by the AAC and shouldn’t feel the effect of a move.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/c ... ll-aac-fcs
The teams UConn fans care about are: Syracuse, BC, UWVa, and Rutgers. None of them play FCS football. And, applying your logic, Tulane should drop to FCS. We don't sell any more tickets than UConn. and we probably have similar records since UConn moved up to FBS.

At BEST UConn hockey is 3rd best NCAA team in the state. And you could argue that they're not even 3rd.

I don't know who you are quoting here, CF, but it's pretty inaccurate. The Huskies sold plenty of tickets when they were in a P6 conference and competing for conference championships. They've had a series of bad coaching hires that's getting harder and harder to overcome.
Not my logic Dave.

I posted excerpts from an article, without comment, and linked it as we're supposed to do . It's germane to the topic of conversation even if it's complete bullshit in someone's opinion.

From what I understand, overall savings by dropping from FBS to FCS are rarely enough to make a significant difference in the grand scheme of things and probably only compound problems associated with a lack of fan interest and contributions.
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UConn AD won't rule out cutting some sports amid $40M budget gap

"We're going to look at all opportunities to try to deal with this prior to [having to cut sports], but sometimes there's inevitabilities."

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ome-sports
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There are any articles from the Uconn perspective with similar sentiments. They are uneducated “hot takes” to stir the fan base from nonsense local writers. They yearn for “glory days” big east basketball. They don’t understand athletics and despise the America for its non traditional non east coast collection of teams. All they want to do is play PC/Seton Hall/Villanova and “traditional” rivals again. The fans have a hard time understanding how low the ceilings are on these programs. They do love to rag on us for “breaking up the big east”. I am looking forward to us getting $8-10m and laughing at these tiny cathlic schools.

I also lpve their hipacroasy for being higher education institutrions when their students from the AAU barely go to school and they pay off families and they produce such wonderful leaders of young men like Rick Pitino. What a classy guy that Rick Pitino.
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Bicoastalwave wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:58 am There are any articles from the Uconn perspective with similar sentiments. They are uneducated “hot takes” to stir the fan base from nonsense local writers. They yearn for “glory days” big east basketball. They don’t understand athletics and despise the America for its non traditional non east coast collection of teams. All they want to do is play PC/Seton Hall/Villanova and “traditional” rivals again. The fans have a hard time understanding how low the ceilings are on these programs. They do love to rag on us for “breaking up the big east”. I am looking forward to us getting $8-10m and laughing at these tiny cathlic schools.

I also lpve their hipacroasy for being higher education institutrions when their students from the AAU barely go to school and they pay off families and they produce such wonderful leaders of young men like Rick Pitino. What a classy guy that Rick Pitino.
As recently as 3 years ago, UConn was tied with Tulane in the USN&WR rankings. They're in the top 60 in the nation, so they're still pretty damned close. They're alumni spell better than you do, that's for sure! And Syracuse and Georgetown were both bigger rivals than any school you mention. Much bigger.

Can you blame them for waxing poetic about the glory days of Big East Basketball? Hell no. In it's heyday, the Big East was the best basketball conference in the country. Period. And don't overlook the fact that UConn has given the American it's (4) only national championships in sports that matter.
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Ban the trolls fanatico and dfromstorrs .
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DfromCT wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:50 am They're alumni spell better than you do, that's for sure!
I do so hope you did that intentionally. :lol: :oops:
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cajunfanatico wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:45 am
DfromCT wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:50 am They're alumni spell better than you do, that's for sure!
I do so hope you did that intentionally. :lol: :oops:
Their grammar might be better than mine, too! :lol:
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nawlinspete wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:39 am Ban the trolls fanatico and dfromstorrs .
D is not a troll by any definition of the word.

You might have a case for calling fanatico a troll but he does bring some positives.

Both are better posters than you.
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