Wave755 wrote:DfromCT wrote:lurker123 wrote:DfromCT wrote:Wave755 wrote:USN&WR no. 171, below even LSU & Ole Miss.
That's the overall University, which has 60,000 undergrads and 12 campuses. They have certain programs, as I pointed out, that are ranked WAY higher than Tulane. Yes, Tulane at $60k/year is ranked much higher. But for less than what it costs to go to Tulane for one year, you can do all 4 at UCF and in some degree categories (again, I mention Education) come away with a degree that's respected more than a Tulane degree. And 4 years out of college it doesn't matter anyway. It's a what have you done lately world. University of Phoenix grads can and do go further if they're the right people.
We need to get off our high horses about the value of a Tulane degree. For student athletes, it's a bs argument. Playing for conference titles and being a factor (which we're not 9 years out of 10, or more accurately 97 years out of 100) plays a MUCH bigger role than USN&WR, ratings, which, as Northeastern University has proven, can be gamed in a big way.
There's PLENTY of schools that are ranked higher than Tulane that aren't even interested in D1 sports. BFD, that USN&WR ranking . It's meaningless.
If you don't think UCF if closer to a P5 invite than Tulane, I want what you're smoking.
We'll see what happens athletically. As concerns academics and reputation for employment purposes, a Tulane degree travels nationally. A UCF degree doesn't even make it out of the state of Florida. 92% of UCF's current student body are Florida residents. It's not even a regional school. So yes if you are only a school with a local state residential student body (like most of the highly ranked UC system schools) than relative rankings like US News matter to give a school national cred. UCF doesn't have it. At least an LSU diploma will get you a job interview in Houston and perhaps Atlanta.
Who the hell cares? You actually make a GREAT point: UCF graduates 15k a year, and they stay in state. Guess what: that means their fan base grows at a rate of about 10x a year that ours does. Besides, 5 years out of college it's a whole lot more about what you've done since you graduated than where you went to school.
UCF is Orlando's UNO, Florida will always be their State Flagship university(medical & law schools) & Miami will always be Miami. And, your comments a couple of years ago that ULALA was ahead of Tulane also proved ridiculous. After all, your 2015 "model program" ULALA just lost yesterday 63 -14 to Appy State and today fired its "Knute Rockne like" coach Mark Hudspeth.
And in 2015 UL-LA was ahead of Tulane. Don't agree, no problem, you have every right to keep your head in the sand. UCF is WAY ahead of Tulane, and wouldn't subject a conference to RIDICULE the way an invite handed out to Tulane would. Don't agree, see above. BTW: In case you didn't know it Miami is a private university, not a state school.
I'm sure you know that UCF is one of the largest Universities in the NATION, with 12 campuses and 60,000 students. Again, I think they're a hell of a lot more likely to make the cut than Tulane. Academics mean very little when conferences go to expand. Success, which UCF has had a boat load more than Tulane in their short history, means a whole lot more. And calling them the UNO of Orlando is wearing your ignorance like a badge of honor on your sleeve.
I'm also a Notre Dame fan, as my brother was ND '71. Can you tell me who won more BCS bowl games: Notre Dame or UCF?
That's right, UCF won more BCS bowl games than ND in the 15 or so years of the BCS. But again, you know it all, so you must have known that.