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tnelly15 wrote:Alabama job open too. Goff fired after 1 season
Just got word. Mark Kingston top of the list.
Oh well it makes one wonder how can this be.
Looks like bad info..


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tpstulane wrote:Filled today. Tennessee hired Ark's assistant coach Tony Vitello.
http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/co ... 377260001/
So they picked an assistant over Riser. Didn't they learn from Dannen?
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tpstulane wrote:Filled today. Tennessee hired Ark's assistant coach Tony Vitello.
http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/co ... 377260001/
So they picked an assistant over Riser. Didn't they learn from Dannen?
It's potential career ending job. Riser has to choose wisely in his next move. The last thing any up and coming coach wants to do is make a mistake after moving on. South Alabama would be a great fit for him. It's a step up from SELA and a step closer to a "good" SEC job.
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Every job is a potential career ender. It seems he didn't get picked not that he turned it down. Hopefully it works out for him if he moves on. SELA is a good job for him. Close to home. He's established there. Could be a long time gig.
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winwave wrote:Every job is a potential career ender. It seems he didn't get picked not that he turned it down. Hopefully it works out for him if he moves on. SELA is a good job for him. Close to home. He's established there. Could be a long time gig.
Yes but like Andy he may end up in a better situation for him.
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Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
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tpstulane wrote:
winwave wrote:Every job is a potential career ender. It seems he didn't get picked not that he turned it down. Hopefully it works out for him if he moves on. SELA is a good job for him. Close to home. He's established there. Could be a long time gig.
Yes but like Andy he may end up in a better situation for him.
I hope so . He's a good guy and a good coach.
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
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"Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there." Does anyone else see the irony?
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McWave wrote:"Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there." Does anyone else see the irony?
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winwave wrote:
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
No. He'll be smart enough to choose a place that's more suited for him.
Ex: Look at the coaches that turned down Texas before Pierce.
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
No. He'll be smart enough to choose a place that's more suited for him.
Ex: Look at the coaches that turned down Texas before Pierce.
Well he tried for the Tennessee job so HE obviously thought it was a good job. So you think he made a mistake ?
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winwave wrote:
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
No. He'll be smart enough to choose a place that's more suited for him.
Ex: Look at the coaches that turned down Texas before Pierce.
Well he tried for the Tennessee job so HE obviously thought it was a good job. So you think he made a mistake ?
Not at all. You learn a lot going through the process. He's at the point that it's important to get his name out there.
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
No. He'll be smart enough to choose a place that's more suited for him.
Ex: Look at the coaches that turned down Texas before Pierce.
Well he tried for the Tennessee job so HE obviously thought it was a good job. So you think he made a mistake ?
Not at all. You learn a lot going through the process. He's at the point that it's important to get his name out there.
That's not what I asked. He went after the job so he obviously thinks it's a good job. He's been thought the process and his name is out there. That's not why he applied. You come across as saying that would have been a huge career mistake b/c the job is a coach killer. So it seems you think he was wrong for even trying for the job?
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Pepper wrote:Tenn job sucks. Not only is Vandy dominating the recruiting but Ole Miss, Miss St & Ky have multiple players from Tenn. Dave Sorano was a top notch coach and couldn't win there.
Well said Pepper. I completely agree. Matt will be smart about any potential move. He'll get a shot very soon.
So you're saying it wasn't smart for him to try and get the Tennessee job?
No. He'll be smart enough to choose a place that's more suited for him.
Ex: Look at the coaches that turned down Texas before Pierce.
Well he tried for the Tennessee job so HE obviously thought it was a good job. So you think he made a mistake ?
Not at all. You learn a lot going through the process. He's at the point that it's important to get his name out there.
That's not what I asked. He went after the job so he obviously thinks it's a good job. He's been thought the process and his name is out there. That's not why he applied. You come across as saying that would have been a huge career mistake b/c the job is a coach killer. So it seems you think he was wrong for even trying for the job?
No he didn't make a mistake by not applying.
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He did apply. So was that a mistake by him?
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winwave wrote:He did apply. So was that a mistake by him?
No he didn't apply. His was linked by a reporter. Will continue for any job as long as he is winning like he is now his name will be mentioned by the media. He had nothing to do with that.

All the SC papers are listing Schloss and all the other top coaches as potential candidates just like Texas pure speculation.
Schlossnagle is not interested in leaving TCU.
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He did apply and you said so above when you said it was good to go through the process.
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winwave wrote:He did apply and you said so above when you said it was good to go through the process.
You don't apply for jobs of that stature. If you're a candidate they come after you. Search firms contact you first to see if you have interest. Getting your name out there is the process I was referring to.
Bottom line Matt never had any conversations with Tennessee.

FYI neither Matt or Andy applied at Tulane they were contacted first to gauge their interest.
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Applied, had your name in the mix , had your agent contact them , all the same. You said it was good for him to go thru the process. He did go after the job. He didn't get it . That happens. He'll eventually get one. The question is you seem to say you know better than him that he shouldn't have wanted that job?
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winwave wrote:Applied, had your name in the mix , had your agent contact them , all the same. You said it was good for him to go thru the process. He did go after the job. He didn't get it . That happens. He'll eventually get one. The question is you seem to say you know better than him that he shouldn't have wanted that job?
He never applied. A media guy mentioned his name. That's it. It's of my opinion that it's good his name is being mentioned for these job openings and it's part of the process taking the next step. It means you're winning. However he was not sought out by Tennessee for the job. It's of my opinion that Tennessee is not the best place for him at this point in time nothing more.
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winwave wrote:Applied, had your name in the mix , had your agent contact them , all the same. You said it was good for him to go thru the process. He did go after the job. He didn't get it . That happens. He'll eventually get one. The question is you seem to say you know better than him that he shouldn't have wanted that job?
you don't apply for these jobs. as tps said they contact you. media floats your name. if they call and ask if you want an interview, you go and network and meet ADs that change jobs all the time. Get your name/brand out their in the media. If you end up getting job offer and you don't want it, then you turn it down. Just like what happened at this Tennessee job with Calvi of South Alabama. They offered him the job and he turned it down. Then they went and offered Tony Vitello of Arkansas and he accepted.

Noone wants Tennesee job, its a career killer as a lot of those SEC jobs are. Ron Polk has said as such numerous times about how tulane is better job then half the sec jobs. Dave Sarrano has been to the CWS multiple times and he did it at 2 different schools, and even he couldnt take tennesee to even a regional. Like TPS said....its a carerr killer. Same with bama job.

On side note, Kingston has interviewed for Virginia Tech job and is in the running. We will see what happens.
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He did apply. You even said so yourself when you said above it was good for him to go through the process. Like I said I have an impeccable source there. He wanted it. He didn't get it. It happens. He'll eventually land another one.
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winwave wrote:Applied, had your name in the mix , had your agent contact them , all the same. You said it was good for him to go thru the process. He did go after the job. He didn't get it . That happens. He'll eventually get one. The question is you seem to say you know better than him that he shouldn't have wanted that job?
you don't apply for these jobs. as tps said they contact you. media floats your name. if they call and ask if you want an interview, you go and network and meet ADs that change jobs all the time. Get your name/brand out their in the media. If you end up getting job offer and you don't want it, then you turn it down. Just like what happened at this Tennessee job with Calvi of South Alabama. They offered him the job and he turned it down. Then they went and offered Tony Vitello of Arkansas and he accepted.

Noone wants Tennesee job, its a career killer as a lot of those SEC jobs are. Ron Polk has said as such numerous times about how tulane is better job then half the sec jobs. Dave Sarrano has been to the CWS multiple times and he did it at 2 different schools, and even he couldnt take tennesee to even a regional. Like TPS said....its a carerr killer. Same with bama job.

On side note, Kingston has interviewed for Virginia Tech job and is in the running. We will see what happens.
Certainly the school will initially contact their most sought after choice. Fact is people do reach out to get there name in the mix for these jobs too. It's foolish to say otherwise.

As for Tennessee people want the job and someone will take it. They may be the Vols Bertman. LSU baseball was nothing before him.
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