UNC AND THE ACC

[nawlinspete]

Eventually the Big 12 is going to make a move. Tulane needs to be in ready mode - never know when the opportunity is there.

EXACTLY WHY DICKSON NEEDS TO BE FIRED NOW.

[jonathanjoseph]

Eventually the Big 12 is going to make a move. Tulane needs to be in ready mode - never know when the opportunity is there.

Correct, but we've opted out of B12 consideration by keeping Dickson and the Tulane Model. Every day that Dickson is employed is another day we wake up and shoot ourselves in the foot.

[DfromCT]

My bet is that UNC ends up forfeiting a bunch of their games across most major sports over the last 15 years or so. They may even be stripped of some basketball championships. But they're not going to get the death penalty, nor will they get kicked out of the ACC.

[exflash]

Two points:
1. Not believable that this was perpetrated by the academic advisors without full knowledge of the athletic dept which the report seems to indicate and
2. THE NCAA KNOWS THIS IS GOING ON AT EVERY MAJOR ATHLETIC POWER. IT PRETTY MUCH STARTED EVERYWHERE IN THE 1970S WITH PROPOSITION 48 TO ENCOURAGE THE ADMISSION AND CONTINUING ELIGIBILITY OF MINORITY ATHLETES.

It defies logic to think that UNC invented this approach and no one else has the participated. We know Tennesse, Georgia and LSU in the SEC had this kind of thing going on and for the most part swept it under the rug by buying off the whistleblowers. Actually as I think about it Georgia had some pretty serious repercussions after Jan Kemp blew the whistle. FSU also just went through this scrutiny. This stuff is business as usual at the major athletic schools.

----------If it stays in the court of law with the suit by the 2 ladies ---LSU is toast---but with the payout of a half a million dollars the NCAA doesn't get further into it---Why with these very facts could they not penalize LSU beyond the hand slap!!!

[wavefan03]

It's pathetic the lack of media coverage on this.

Not surprising though since schools like Florida state and ole miss have 55% football graduation rates.

[jonathanjoseph]

It's pathetic the lack of media coverage on this.

Not surprising though since schools like Florida state and ole miss have 55% football graduation rates.

This issue is far less egregious than the pathetic lack of media coverage of Scott Cowen's tenure. The unfortunate truth is that D1A athletics are big business that is too big and important to be constrained by the outdated "student/athlete" ideal, and thus it's hard for me to conclude that there are real "losers" in the media's ignoring of the NCAA issues.

Scott Cowen, on the other hand, has crippled a $B enterprise, perhaps destroyed the premier academic institution in a major city and with his decisions to drop engineering has badly damaged the NOLA economy (just look at the incentives to attract engineers). Given the media fawning all over him, THAT is what's pathetic.

[tpstulane]

Just idle speculation, but I assume that UNC is facing severe sanctions and perhaps a loss of their football program. I wonder if this will push the ACC to look to add a new member and if so who would be the most likely targets? Obviously they will be looking for a clean program. Tulane is probably not ready to make a serious push for membership should the opportunity arise but it is interesting speculating who might be offered and what this will do for Tulane's chances to up their attractiveness should other opportunities arise. I hope this does not turn into another fire RD rampage or I hate SC screed. It is obvious the program needs on field success in both FB and BB (and perhaps WBB).

Slap on the wrist. One year probation. That's it. It pays to cheat.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... gency-says

[puffy]

Just idle speculation, but I assume that UNC is facing severe sanctions and perhaps a loss of their football program. I wonder if this will push the ACC to look to add a new member and if so who would be the most likely targets? Obviously they will be looking for a clean program. Tulane is probably not ready to make a serious push for membership should the opportunity arise but it is interesting speculating who might be offered and what this will do for Tulane's chances to up their attractiveness should other opportunities arise. I hope this does not turn into another fire RD rampage or I hate SC screed. It is obvious the program needs on field success in both FB and BB (and perhaps WBB).

Slap on the wrist. One year probation. That's it. It pays to cheat.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... gency-says

One year of probation from the accreditation body. NCAA penalties are yet to be determined.

[DfromCT]

Just idle speculation, but I assume that UNC is facing severe sanctions and perhaps a loss of their football program. I wonder if this will push the ACC to look to add a new member and if so who would be the most likely targets? Obviously they will be looking for a clean program. Tulane is probably not ready to make a serious push for membership should the opportunity arise but it is interesting speculating who might be offered and what this will do for Tulane's chances to up their attractiveness should other opportunities arise. I hope this does not turn into another fire RD rampage or I hate SC screed. It is obvious the program needs on field success in both FB and BB (and perhaps WBB).

Slap on the wrist. One year probation. That's it. It pays to cheat.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... gency-says

One year of probation from the accreditation body. NCAA penalties are yet to be determined.

While the NCAA penalties may be harsh, it won't be the death penalty, nor anything leading to an exit from the ACC. That was a pipe dream from the get go.

[jonathanjoseph]

Slap on the wrist. One year probation. That's it. It pays to cheat.

I'm shocked that there is gambling going on in this establishment!

Unquestionably, as we've seen with PSU, USC and UNC, committing major program infractions will do far less damage to an athletic program than 15 years of the Cowen/Dickson Tulane Model. That may sound like a dig but there's enough data that it's not far from a quantifiable fact.